CammyF

.... and since we aren't there, we'll remind ourselves of Harvey in the Shankhill RSC and join in with this fantastic song...

Just across the Irish Sea

Stirs a heart of Loyalty

Raised in Honour and in dignity

Drives a will to keep us British free

Not alone are we on this journey

For in a land just across the sea

Is a hand that reaches out in friendship

And a bond thats lasted centuries

And it's hands across the water

Reaching out for you and me

For Queen, For Ulster and For Scotland (and for Rangers)

Helps to keep our Loyal people free

Let the cry be "No Surrender"

Let no-one doubt this Loyalty

Reaching out to the Brave Red Hand of Ulster

Is the hand across the sea

repeat second verse)

(repeat first verse)

Cammy F

Loyal Heart

From Loyal veins my life I drew

In Loyal arms I lay

From Loyal Lips that Lessons new

That led me day by day

And hearts to rest in Loyal Breast

And rocked on Loyal knee

They wore and grew and thank God too

A Loyal Heart in me,

Then came the day for all to view

When scorn and lies held sway

Those evil men with no virtue

They swore my life away

But for dare or ill I am Loyal Still

They never can decree

To force retreat or stop the beat

The Loyal Heart in me

At times I sigh at times I rest

Amid Scenes and faces strange

The passing years have in my breast

Brought little or no change

Memories of old ever bright I hold

Since rocked on Loyal knee

And for her sake no jail will break

This Loyal Heart in me.

Love this song, nothing sectarian and it *could* relate to supporting Rangers...

Cammy F

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/sport/6027345.html

 

Hmmmmmmmmmm interesting!

But, does that 3 include Clement and or Elmander? If it does then it means only one more player....

Cammy F

My position on JFH is slightly curious.

 

I do rate him, and I think he's a very good goalscorer, but he's old now, past his best and expensive. I would not want Rangers to sign him.

 

In saying that, I also didn't really want Celtic to get him either.

Kind of sums up my feelings as well.

Cammy F

I think the modern day footballer will go where ever the money is - JFH decission to not sign for Craptic, due to wages shows this.

He was reportedly on �£40K at Boro and wasn't willing to take a 50% pay cut to play in the SPL.

Cammy F

Indeed...

 

Rangers have had a Catholic player in every decade since we were formed.

Exactly Frankie...

Meant to add that the Craptic fan didn't bother to mention that part in McGrains book where he stated that in his own opinion, he was refused a coaching role at Craptic due to his religion.... Funny that eh?

Cammy F

Hey it was hot last year!! nothing wrong with a bit sunburn

 

Dont knock the gay dancing you did not complain last year

M8, I am safe in my own sexuality, I would be delighted to attend again this year - have you checked out the gay bars in Dundee

Cammy F

Shame it's not going and the game being on the rangers telly tonight

Good job we are not going - Del was like one big freckle last year, would hate to have seen the damage down by the sun this year - would have spent all his money on after-sun Oh, and no doubt he would have wanted to go back to the gay dancin'..... :admin: :yawn:

Cammy F

Aye, I remember last season...

 

Great job as usual mate.

Hey, I ain't taking the credit, I wanted to stay in the pub - Del wanted to get to the park early - it was his decission that meant it got a prime location. Oh, that and the nery helpful strewards - Rock UnSteady take note

Cammy F

one relieved bear.

 

i KNOW he`d have scored a barrel load for em.

 

lets hope he comes our way now!

Don't think he will m8 - I think it was wages that were a stummbling block and don't think we could afford them either TBH

Cammy F

For the first time since we started playing Linfield in Belfast, the GersNet banner will not be making an apprearence

Last season, it was as warm as this, and the banner got some very good exposure on TV and the local newspapers - pitty it won't be on display tonight.

Last year it was displayed outside Belfast City Hall, outside Windsor Park and right on the half-way line at the game

Cammy F

Obviously not. I prefer the mute button myself when any of those clowns are on.

 

Although Broon has been binned for Ian Crocker last I heard...

Aye, Crocker and Andy Gray would be the ideal duo for me....

Cammy F

Famously, Ian Paisley said NO and JFH has said no thanks to Craptic.

Quite glad actually as I thought he could / would score for fun up here (JFH not Ian Paisley).

Cammy F

Am I the only one who thinks he is a huge pile of steaming dung? It's just that Wigan have confirmed that they are trying to sign him from Birmingham...

Cammy F

The price for watching football ââ?¬Ë?liveââ?¬â?¢ and in your ââ?¬Ë?armchairââ?¬â?¢ is rising and some of the ââ?¬Ë?armchairââ?¬â?¢ fans are up in arms over this. Now, I know that people donââ?¬â?¢t go to the football for genuine reasons ââ?¬â?? money, disability, illness etc, but why should those who treck the country in the middle of winter to watch a boring 0-0 draw subsidise those who sit in the comfort of their home? Also, many clubs would benefit if the armchair fans actually attended the games.

Discuss�.

Cammy F

So instead of Joke and Leckie moaning every other day about it, why don't they put their energiers into giving us a real devolved BBC Scotland instead of Motson, Wright and MoN during these events?

Be careful for what you wish for Frankie - would you really want them replaced by Joke Brown, Andy Walker and Derek Shyte???

Cammy F

Rino, I would NEVER ask anyone to support England - that is a personal choice. I don't support England - I just don't hate or dislike them. I don't mind them winning, as long as they are not playing Scotland. The same goes for Wales and NI.......

Cammy F

Whilst browsing the web, I stumbled across a Craptic fans low-down Scotland and Craptic full back Danny McGrain. It was implied that Danny was turned down by Rangers as he was believed to have been a ‘Catholic’. The evidence that was given to ‘prove’ this was an extract from Danny’s book were he states that a Rangers scout came along to watch him play for his school. The critiquer then rambles on about how this is ‘proof positive’ that we had a sectarian signing policy.

Now, Danny went to a non-denominational school and if we did have a sectarian signing policy, surely a scout wouldn’t go and watch a ‘catholic school’ team as the critiquer implied?

I and many others have offered up many names of players who were known to have been Catholic whom graced the jersey during this alleged signing policy time. I am sure there are others who didn’t want their religion know (as is their right).

When Graeme Souness arrived at Rangers he tried to sign Ray Houghton who was a ROI international from Glasgow. Ray, who was friends with a family member of mine admitted that it was due to the expected reaction of ‘his community’ that stopped his from signing for Rangers. At the same time, Souness used my uncle as a sounding board for West Brom players and one, who was a Catholic was very close to signing until WBA doubled his wages and Rangers withdrew from the deal. Now, the player in question never raised a concern about his religion or the reception he would receive at Ibrox.

Look at the problems Neil McCann, Albertz, Rino, Amo, MoJo and Chris Burke have faced from the non-sectarian jolly jaipsters. Also, it is only the Tims and the mhedia who are making a big deal regarding PLG’s religion – 99.9%, if not 100% of Rangers fans don’t care, and that is what riles them.

I will leave you with a quote from a Linfield director relating to Catholics signing for them – the same could be argued about West of Scotland, Ulster and ROI catholics and catholics in general signing for us ;

“We have an open, inclusive policy for signing players,” pointed out Kennedy. “We’ve always had it, although during the troubles it might have been more difficult because young boys might get into trouble with their own communities for signing for us. We’re very proud of the traditions of our club. At Linfield you’re expected to conduct yourself with dignity and uphold the standards of the club, on and off the field.”

Cammy F

I would like to challenge you to find anything in any thread that could be conceived as ââ?¬Ë?attackingââ?¬â?¢ Scotland national team? I have merely pointed out that recently, Scotland have been a heap of steaming dung. That is not attacking them, it is being realistic but some have taken this as anti-Scottish, or an attack on Scotland.

Conversely, England have had a largely successful time of it recently. Semi and quarter finals and itââ?¬â?¢s a dozen years since they FAILED to qualify for a tournament ââ?¬â?? that is a record that MOST, if not ALL Scotland fans would gladly swap in a minute. To dispute that would be, and I quote myself here, as it is very apt, talking shit.

I vividly remember great Scotland teams and great Scotland performances, both by individuals and collectively as a team. However, those days have passed now (sic), we no longer produce the likes of Baxter (who never played at a world cup), Law, Bremner, Lorimar, JG, Jardine, McGrain, KD, Souness and even the likes of McCoist, MoJo, Gough etc etc.

Just because I can appreciate Englandââ?¬â?¢s ââ?¬Ë?successââ?¬â?¢ whilst admitting Scotlandââ?¬â?¢s failures doesnââ?¬â?¢t mean I an attacking Scotland, quite the opposite in fact. The best way to move forward and better yourself is to recognise your failings and try to improve on them.

In saying that, Scotland will NEVER reach the heights of past glories, as IMO, we were punching way above our weight. IMO, success now for Scotland is just qualifying for championships and putting up decent showings in the qualifying groups.

I would like nothing better than Scotland qualifying for the next WC and progressing from their group, but at this moment in time, that is like a Killie fan wanting his team to qualify for the CL and progress from the group stages ââ?¬â?? a great notion, but a pipe dream just the same.

I do not like certain aspects of the international scene, I make no secret of it, but I do not think any less of any Rangers fan who passionately follows Scotland ââ?¬â?? to do so would be hypocritical as I used to follow Scotland as passionately as I did Rangers. I can not stand the anti-unionist, anti-English and ââ?¬Ë?little Scotlanderââ?¬â?¢ attitude of sections of the TA, I do not like the SFA for their treatment of Rangers and Rangers players in the last decade or so. So what, I donââ?¬â?¢t like the wee neds that ruin Scotlands streets, but none of that makes me less Scottish.

Is their a rule, or an act of parliament (the Scottish shambles of a parliament that is) that dictates that you are not Scottish, or less Scottish if you donââ?¬â?¢t dress up as ââ?¬Ë?See You Jimmyââ?¬â?¢ or actively support the national football team? If there is, a HUGE percentage of the Scottish nation ainââ?¬â?¢t Scottish then. I have supported Scotland at football, rugby, cricket, bowls and athletics (commonwealth games and Olympics) but I have also enjoyed, congratulated, appreciated some wonderful performances at all of the above from non-Scots. Hold the bus, lets hang Cammy from the hanging tree for not being a ââ?¬Ë?true Scotsmanââ?¬â?¢Ã¢â?¬Â¦..

I remember applauding Juve off the pitch at Ibrox after that had embarrassed us ââ?¬â?? I wasnââ?¬â?¢t the only one either, they were unbelievable that evening and were applauded accordingly. So, does that make me less of a Rangers fan?

However, as following both got too expensive and too tiresome if I am being honest, I chose Rangers above Scotland and have never regretted it. Does that choice make me less of a Scot or more of a Bear ââ?¬â?? off course it doesnââ?¬â?¢t only some one with an agenda would claim either to be honest.

So there you have it, I understand the Rangers fans who follow Scotland and would never claim they were better / worse than me ââ?¬â?? I just hope that the Scotland supporting Rangers supporters would give me the same credit. Ah for a perfect world.

Cammy F

What about Follow The People ....

Cammy F

Eck had his shelf life......

Care to expand on that, or am I reading too much into it?

No ban should even be considered here as there has been no direct personal abuse

But it was personal - I even highlight that parts in this tread and I have doen the same previously in others

I dont have a personal problem with you at all

I didn't say you had....

Cammy F

Highland Scotty!! LMAO! not bad!!

 

How long will this tantram last?

 

If you "read" again you might find Calscot never called you ignorant but said anyone who claims bla bla bla to be ignorant. He didnt state Cammy is ignornant!!

Get a grip Gribz, he claimed anyone who used a freindly under Vogts as evidence was ignorant - oh, and guess who used it as evidence....

As I said, I'm fucked off with this place and certain members - I've had PM's asking what some peoples 'agendas' are, and I'm at a loss

If the other Admin chose to ban me and or Calscot (or both) than I won't be back. Maybe it would be better if they just banned me as it is clear for me and many others that Calscot and other members have some personal problems with me.

Cammy F

And i thought you were proud to be scottish!! Get a hold of yourself Cammy, putting NEVER in capitals!

 

We Scots fans know were shite but at least we admit it something you english fans cant admit.

Your jealous of England coz you support them.

Yes Wales beat us a while ago but in my opinion only the ignorant would cite friendlies under Bertie Vogts as evidence

Well, well Gribz, I suppose I shouldn't take the above personally, as they were all POSTED TOWARDS me - acht, maybe this daft English c*** has just made them up tho ????

Cammy F

Is this post a wind up??

 

Can anyone please tell me where Calscot has personally abused Cammy??? If i stand correctly calscot has done nothing but post excellent posts with quality arguments and Cammy has done the same despite us not argreeing.

 

If Calscot gets banned from here on this topic then i would walk from the forum!!

 

Cammy, just coz we dont agree with you it doesnt mean we are abusing you!

 

Personal abusing is like this - Gav you are a homo and you know it!!!

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/abuse

So next up is Calscots wee (highland scotty) lap dog....

Nah, he didn't post personal abuse, and neither did you - I mean neither of you have claimed that I support England and I am English and Calscot never called me ignorent - maybe I'm reading different post from you two - I'll save you the bother of walking Gribz, I'll fuck off as I can't stand this place at the moment

Cammy F - Ignorent, English, Bigoted Wanker Loyal RSC

What a dive (or was it a superman inpersonation) by Ronaldo in the France game - and he wonders why he gets booed - cheating fooker

Cammy F