townhead ranger

Craig if they have the funds would there be any logic in not "waiving" thsi debt immedietly?

Should we be concerned that he is earmarking our European Revenues for this purpose if the LBG debt isn't "waived" fairly soon?

As I said before, I would assume that they keep the debt, but essentially never want it back, i.e. waiving it. Or it could well be that for some reason or another, we pay back a given sum (100k per annum) into their accounts.

The debt hasn't been paid by Wavetower/Whyte yet.

The debt is still with LBG, who most certaintly will be wanting it back.

If Whyte proposes to clear it from his own funds I see no logic in delaying it when all it will serve to do is prolong the substantial interest rate payments.

It's certainly open to interpretation mate.

 

The debt is off our books but we don't know if we'll be paying WT for the privilege and/or for how long. It does say this debt will be waived at some point but is this guaranteed?

I'm pretty sure since they use the word obligation that this debt will be wiped out.

However I'm wondering if there is a time constraint on it and Wavetower will publish their own annual reports so we should be able to see how the debt was paid off when it does happen.

From MIH statement

Does this mean the debt is no longer our problem?

or could Wavetower delay their obligation to pay the debt back and hope to fund it by European revenues?

I read it as Dave King is suggesting a equity offer to raise the funds.

Think bottum line is Whyte hasn't proven he has the cash to implement the model he submitted.

I think we're being a bit harsh on Mendes here. His overall contribution this season probably hasn't been as much as we would have expected, but it's hardly his fault that he set such high standards for himself early on.

 

Last night he was IMO our best midfielder, which isn't really saying much, but does anyone really think Davis or Edu had a better game? Don't even get me started on Stevie Smith

 

Sorry 24 hrs after that debacle of a first half I still stand by my OP.

He set such high standards early on? in 1 game.

he has played another 40 odd and he has only had 1 performance showing what he can do. He has been mediocre to poor in the majority of other matches save for a half hour here and 20 minutes there and a few good strikes.

I completely disagree that he was our best midfielder last night the game passed him by in the first half (as it did the rest of the midfield) but in the second half I would say he was the worst out of the four.

Davis although not sticking to his position (which is a serious negative when Dailly was at RB and we needed an out ball) got forward played simple forward passes (not daft weee flicks) and had a good effort on goal saved by their keeper.

Edu as a DM done his job well of getting the ball and passing it to Mendes, Davis, Whittaker or Lafferty. I do not blame him one bit if he got the ball played it simple for mendes only for mendes to make a sideways pass to dailly that edu could have made himself. Edu is there to allow mendes freedom to get forward and play which he didn't do.

Lafferty was technically speaking our LM ( although he was only using LM as a starting positon to become a third forward) for the second half and he done ok got the ball down well and ran at them. he showed that he is not a LM as he all too often drove inside and the fullback began to read it, but for someone playing out of position he still affected the game more than mendes.

The only midfielder that done less in my eyes was Smith and he quite rightly got hooked at HT.

I honestly can't think of one thing Mendes done last night that came off or led to anything of note barring set pieces, and lets be honest if we only need someone for set pieces we could have just kept Smith on the park as his done more damage at Easter rd a few weeks ago.

I know there is no chance of him being dropped for Saturday and all i can hope is that he forces me to come on here and hold my hands up for getting it so wrong about our superstar midfielder but I seriously doubt he will.

Im not understanding where you're getting this 'Mendes are Ferguson are the same type of player'. Mendes passes the ball forward. There's a big difference!

Here in lies the myth of both players.

That Ferguson only passes sideways/ backwards and Mendes plays forward defence splitting passes.

Ferguson passes forwards as much if not more than Mendes. (Still not often enough)

Mendes for the past 6 months has been taking the ball from the Centre Backs toes. moving forward 10 yards then passing wide to a full back or to a wide midfielder. When he does try a forward pass it comes off 1 in 10 times.

He surrenders possesion far more than Ferguson ever did and for that reason he should be punted. I'm not even going to start on the flicks with the outside of the right boot that hardly ever come off.

As I've said Davis and Edu in the middle for me.

I know this leaves us with a place wide right to fill as Davis is played there due to us having little alternatives.

For the last few games of the season I would go with Whittaker Right Mid (he looks the most creative player we have just now) and one of Fleck/ Beasley/ Miller if Fit at wide left.

Leaving Dailly at RB and Papac if fit or Smith at Left back.

We need to score a barrowload over the next 2 games and I think that team could provide plenty of chances for a Lafferty/Boyd Partnership.

In the summer sell Mendes and Ferguson and try to find a real Right Mid so we can have a middle 2 from 3 of KT/Edu/ Davis in the middle.

My OP may have been a bit strong probably due to the dissapointment/anger built up ion me at the time but I stand by pretty much all of what I said.

Mendes flatters to deceive.

He offers very little and has not kicked a ball since KT got injured.

He has had such an easy ride from the fans this season it's unbelievable.

He has played to his full potential once and has lived off the back of it ever since.

I would rather he did not play for us again as Davis has and will offer far more for the remaining 3 games and for the future.

I cannot stand the man.

Never in my life have i felt so negatively and so strongly about a Rangers Player.

I hope he never kicks a ball for us again.

He is a complete waste of space who thinks he is far better than he is.

He has lived off of one good performance in a Rangers shirt and a few good strikes.

That fu(king shit with the outside of the right boot he does it at least 3 times every game and it works once if he's lucky.

He is a big headed wannabe who thinks all he has to do is turn up and he can do what he wants as he is far better than who he is up against. Guess what Pedro? Sol Bamba gave you a fu(king hard game thats how fu(king good you are.

I want him binned for Saturday.

After whats went on with Barry Ferguson I'd rather he never wore our jersey again but if I had the choice I would have a half drunk, half fit off form Fergie before this portuguese imposter.

This cnut has had it easy all season because we all know he is capable of being the best player in this league by a mile but he hasn't bothered his arse to show it.

When i think of the abuse some Rangers players have got over the past few years who have done far more than this Ar$ehole ever will it sickens me. Barry Ferguson, Charlie Miller, Peter Lovenkrands, Kris Boyd, Lorenzo Amoruso even Bert Fu(kin Konterman all done more than him yet he gets a free pass while these guys got dogs abuse.

Well enough is enough Pedro Get tae Fu(k.

No doubt McGregor is my preferred option to leave from our sellable assets.

Still wouldn't want him to leave as it would definatly weaken our first team although no where near as much as Boyd or Bougherra would.

Has to be the biggest failed thread in history.

The code is to prevent scotlandsshame.com to link to http://www.rangers.co.uk

Which it does but the Earl Haigs have created another site go.scotlandsshame.com which now links to the website.

The guy made out as if the source code was malicious and put there by a tim.

Can't believe people are still trying to stick up for him. A cheap stunt to generate members for his site.

I had a gutter at the weekend too

Had Sunderland on 4-0 winning from 15 minutes or so

Wigan 3-0 winning early doors

Aberdeen 2-1 up from half an hour

Wolves 2-0 up from about the same

Scunthorpe 4-4 up from 15 minutes and leading 4-1 at 55 minutes.

Done me for �£95

I hate the sound-system at Ibrox, it just annoys me. Ten seconds of a song then it changes. How the Fcuk are we meant to generate an atmosphere when that pish is being belted out. Especially Old Firm games, surely cut the music and let us out-sing the mhanks.

 

I actually get really annoyed thinking about it. I cant see any plus for the crap music before, at half time and then at full time.

Does my box in aswell but I think that is the point they don't want us generating our own atmosphere

It bugged me when the soldiers came on a few weeks back. Ok play the charity single maybe it will generate more interest in it but after that they put on other songs whilst the bears where trying to vocally show their support.

TBH I see both of your points and when as I mentioned she also told my brother to shut up I said to him at the time " If that was your wife you wouldn't expect you her to sit their and be silent "

Maybe I'm letting my dislike for her blind me a bit but seriously everyone round about where she sits are getting a bit fed up with her.

This spat between them was ongoing for about 5 minutes and when this guy had a word with the stewerd her and her mate just sat their and sniggered. She came across as if she thought she was untouchable because McGregor is her fionce.

On the subject of last minute winners not the last one I don't think. Nando Ricksen's penalty at Tynecastle a few years back when big Soti was clearly bundled off the ball!

 

For me Miller has been our outstanding player this season. Maybe a controversial statement but I reckon at the moment if Miller is out he would be the one person in the team we would miss most. I also think Boyd benefits from having KM beside him. If we get right behind the pair of them i reckon they could bring the Title back where it belongs

That has to be one of my favorite moments at any Rangers game. Their was a feeling amongst the bears that we had won the league that night. Obviously it turned out to go to the wire. The bears went absolutly nuts when that goal went in, other than Novos pen in Fiorentina I don't think I've ever celebrated a goal so much

Well my response was merely that, a response to what you posted.

 

Also I don't see why you can only tell someone to stop acting like an arse if you are older than them (and that is regardless of who is right and wrong here). Old people are just as capable of young people of doing and saying things that make them look foolish.

Well I've always thought old age pensioners should be given more respect.

They shouldn't be exempt from criticism but the guy was in the right.

IMO the guy is allowed to give his opinion she had no right to tell him to shut up.

JCD up at Inverness is the last one I remember.

That fan is an arse and I don't see how negativity at the game helps Rangers and all the I pay my money to act like a cnut crowd can fuck off because......

 

I dont see how negativity at the game helps Rangers.

 

Why refer to one of the players partners as a cum bucket (true or not I don't even know who he's seeing these days). And I wouldn't be suprised if it is the big man, with his pals, picking on a woman who gets in trouble over this.

The guy is an old age pensioner who shouted " FFS McGregor what the hell are you playing at get your act together. Get Alexander on " or something similar. He was in no way acting like a cnut and to an extent I've always agreed with get behind the team in a time of need perspective. However If someone is due criticism , I feel they should be allowed to vent their opinions.

Why refer to her as a cum bucket ?

I sit next to her every second week she has also told my brother to shut up but he bit his tongue as he didn't want to cause a scene. She sits their with a group of pals talking pish not paying attention. She doesn't applaude or even care when Rangers score. Add to the list she is a 20 something telling someone over the age of 60 to shut up tells you about the kind of person she is or at least comes across as.

She is their for one thing and one thing only the latest thing McGregor is pumping. So I think cum bucket is justified.

EDIT: I realise I said pelters in the original post an exaggeration on my part.

I posted on FF but It got took off for some reason. So if their is a problem with it on here just take it off . I'll just copy and paste:

The cum bucket that is Shaggers fionce got into an argument with a guy at the game today. Good on the bear he well and truely put her in her place. A guy infront of her was giving McGregor pelters quite rightly so she decided to tell him to shut up. The guy went on to tell her to shut her mouth until she actually pays to be here

He said he is taking it further and complaining to someone within ibrox for the abuse he got. Hopefully the daft cow is moved as far away from me as possible.

Oh and when she was going to the vip lounge just before half time their was a few shouts of " Don't come back ya bimbo/tart/slapper" Sadly she came back.

Got a Boyd hat trick up on Saturday at 25/1.

Only had �£3 mind.

That's it settled, it was aimed at Burley:devil:

Closest I've come was in a pub full of celtic fans when I was younger with my dad. It was the crown on duke street. My dad isn't big on football but it's his local. The gers won and I wasn't the most popular person in the pub

I don't think i could ever sit in amongst them at a game tbh

I know mate that reply was mostly for Cal. The restaurant's on Sauchiehall st. Not worth the trip from Bermuda I might add!

Don't worry Cotter we're not going to hound your Mrs you can name the restaurant :D

I wouldn't mind a nice meal and a swatch on a Thursday night

Coupens up

VILLAREAL v Celtic

Bayern v Lyon Draw

Fiorentina v Steua Draw

Fernabace v Dynamo Kiev Draw

�£5 pays �£270

Just what I needed for going back to uni.