gaspard

had a look at the launch, just made me maudlin,

but if they came with a time machine and a gastric band............

1 hour ago, Uilleam said:

It's not about the shirt.

It's about The Shirt,

and who can carry it. 

Its also true though that the sales of the shirt will directly impact the quality of those that wear it.

9 minutes ago, MacK1950 said:

 

Both these make me wonder 1) If member clubs are required to pay the amount of any compensation does that mean the clubs are employed by the SPFL and have a franchise to run a  club as a Ltd. organisation within the SPFL that is also a Ltd.organisation which to me is weird.

2) If this is a legal situation does it mean that any limited company can pass the settlement of a damages claim etc. to their employees/franchisees?.

 

Can't comment on constitutional liabilities,  but I do remember Leslie Deans,  on his bbc interview,  saying that any compensation due to hearts would ultimately come from the member clubs.

17 minutes ago, Uilleam said:

So, and this is a serious question, with a £10M plus costs civil action in the offing, just who call(s) the response at SPFL? 

-The Hired Help?

-The Board?

-The Member Clubs?

 

De facto, we suspect, it will be Pederasts Inc FC which will have the say, but de iure, who will be responsible, and, presumably, liable, when the Court decides against the League?

According to Leslie Deans the action would be served against the SPFL but the members would be liable for any financial court awards.

1 hour ago, ian1964 said:

 

Should they win those optimistic figures, it's the members who would be liable, which includes Rangers of course. Something to bear in mind .

2 hours ago, ian1964 said:

I am guilty of posting some articles from the Record, I never click the link, I did stop for a while, however during this period of the SPFL voting fiasco these articles that were quicker than our official site so felt it was worth while at the time. 

I don't intend posting any more from them.

However the way most clubs have and still treat Rangers with utter contempt I think our travelling fans feeding them the blue £££££s is far worse than posting articles from the Scottish gutter press, IMO.

Time to starve them of cash, but it won't happen. 

Personally I think there's nothing wrong in cutting and pasting an article from the gutters on here. Allows other folk to read without giving them the clicks they desperately want.

Much better than posting links.

1 hour ago, Bill said:

Thanks yet again @The Moonlighter

 

Wasn't the renovation of McBeath's grave initially the work of Vanguard Bears?

It was indeed

17 minutes ago, Bill said:

I can see it might not suit some but in the grand scheme of things, how many people are affected by the Bar72 situation? Doesn't the 2-year option remove the price increase anyway? It may not be ideal for some but I don't think we should get carried away in condemning the club when it seems to be meeting the requirements of the great majority of fans, the Covid19 situation notwithstanding.

2 season deal

19/20 price 1100 no vat

2 seasons 2200

New deal 2900 + vat

3480

So that's 1280 pounds increase 

Frozen for some, up significantly for others.

Bar72

Just now, elfideldo said:

Pretty sure it was Davie Wilson

When?

Thanks for the suggestions folks, I have all the record books, unfortunately I'm away from home just now and have no access to my library.

Substitutions I believe were introduced at the start of season 1966/67 and I have tried to find who was our first sub deployed, have found this bit of info; regarding the opening LC fixtures on 13th Aug. (We played Hivs at Ibrox)

Records show 10 substitutes were used in six of the matches and the unfortunate Jim Clunie of St Mirren was the first to be replaced through injury by Archie Gemmill in the match against Clyde

Don't know however if Rangers used a sub that day or when we first used the facility, would appreciate some help from the GN historians and statisticians.

Thanks in advance.

£341 hike, for a shitey pie and a programme, I'm frankly astonished that the club would indroduce this at this time of fear and uncertainty.

very disappointed indeed, that increase is way beyond anything i anticipated.

2 hours ago, RANGERRAB said:

Has ‘sporting integrity’ now been superseded by ‘sporting merit’ ? ??

 

Wonder which team McGlennan supports? Shouldn’t be too hard to guess I wouldn’t think. 

 

Getting worried now arent they? This season has no chance of restarting & completing b4 end of May when players contracts end. 

no guesses required, he's a ST holder at the chamber of secrets.

29 minutes ago, craig said:

I think the deferral is being read by many as being a wage "reduction".  The more savvy of us, i.e. Gersnetters realise that isn't the case - they will still get full wages.  However, before we give the players a hard time about it, because we ALL can be prone to jumping to conclusions.... we simply don't know whether they were even asked to take wage cuts or whether they were asked by the club to take deferrals.

 

Until and unless we have that information we don't know what they were asked to do.  Could they have offered a wage reduction voluntarily ?  Sure they could.  How many of us would do that, particularly voluntarily and without being asked, ourselves ?  It doesn't really matter the wealth they have (or not in some cases) but if they aren't asked they aren't at liberty to offer it up.  And, if they haven't been asked to take a wage reduction we have no idea if they would have accepted or not.

If you read my post carefully I wasn't giving the players a hard time, neither was I speculating as to what they may or may not have been proposed. My point was that, as you correctly say, a deferral is not wage cut and will eventually have to be reimbursed. Good on them if it helps the club at this juncture but I won't be getting too excited about their grand gesture. 

33 minutes ago, Bluedell said:

These are my feelings as well.

 

It's great if the club are able to defer season ticket renewals (shows that they read Gersnet ) and that they're using the Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme.

 

However I'm underwhelmed at the wage deferral. As TB says, it's hardly a sacrifice and they're not really worse off.

 

If I was asked to take a 50% wage deferral for 3 months or a 10% wage cut for 3 months, I'd jump at the deferral.

I concur,  whilst any measure that helps the club through this period is welcome,  I get the impression that the deferral has been received by some as some sort of selfless altruistic gesture by the high earners, as you say it is nothing like that.

I wouldn't presume to suggest what anyone should do regarding their financial affairs,  but I do try to look at things realistically and a wage deferral for those that can afford to survive few months sitting on their bums watching netflix warrants no round of applause from me, it's what I would expect in these extraordinary times, nothing more.

Dundee, show how it should be handled,  excellent statement 

https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/club-statement-23/

I may be wrong, but I believe the last goal scored in front of a 100,000 + crowd in British Football

can see nervousness being a factor, early goal will relieve the pressure and we could go on to a comfortable victory, however a prolonged deadlock could compound our fragility.

0-3 FGS Goldson 

or

0-0 and more boos

On 01/03/2020 at 12:45, MacK1950 said:

Would point them out but my seat is too far away from them.Only time it happens around me is when seats are sold via paper tickets but not often.

from your response, i assume that you are witnessing these moronic/ancient chants at ibrox? (albeit at a distance) somewhat surprised as, as far as i was aware these indiscretions have been an issue at away fixtures.

20 minutes ago, MrGaryValentine said:

 

 

i don’t believe gerrard is a quitter and it certainly would shock me if he was to leave us but he does need to ask himself a few honest questions. has he been too loyal to certain players who continue to let him down when the big games arrive? i think so, but i also think gerrard is determined to be a success at rangers and he will make the changes needed to become a success. 

 

 

problem, is our players don't know what a big game is, last night was a big game, every unglamorous league fixture, is a big game.

Braga was not a big game, Europe is a seasonal bonus nothing more.

11 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

There's absolutely no way he would quit after this. If there's one thing we know about him it's that he's no quitter.

unlike you, who turned the TV off during the match.

NS

1 hour ago, 26th of foot said:

Tonight, I would like to salute the following : Hans Christian Andersen, Brian Laudrup, Peter Lovenkrands, Hamlet, Lego, Lurpak Butter, Kai Johanson, the Little Mermaid, Danpak Bacon, Great Danes, Erik the Red, Viggo Mortensen, Brigitte Nielsen, Thumbelina, Carlsberg, Tuborg, Queen Margrethe ii, Akavit, Danish Pastries, ....................................................... etc.

Almost everyone,  but what about, rangers first foreign player,  the first foreigner to playin an old firm game, the only ranger to spend ww2 in a concentration camp,  I raise you, Carl "skomager"Hansen

High ground? Wouldn't matter a jot what we sing, there's not a hope of rangers getting any moral standing in this bitter wee land. We have lost the establishment, there is no morality in north Britain, only grievance, spite and state propaganda. We are swimming in filth , and some folk are getting hot under the collar about a song that mentions a WW1 volunteer regiment? 

5 hours ago, craig said:

Would that choice of wording not actually suggest that they are, indeed, corrupt ?  Playing devil's advocate because I don't buy the corrupt terminology yet either - but incompetent is undoubted.  And Celtic, their PR machine, and their zealot fanbase have petrified officials into no longer being impartial when officiating their games.

I'm really not that eloquent or articulate enough to convey what I mean, but in a nutshell, I tried to say, the bias may be subconscious,  then it's not overt corruption,  but it may well be conscious,  then it is indeed corrupt.  Either way we lose, but imo we need to get used to it, our pseudo-nation Orwellian micro state, that we have allowed ourselves to become, will continue to regard rangers and everything associated with us as an anathema to all the forces of goodness and fairness that will save us from the devil in Westminster,  that mind state prevails in every level of society governance,  from the Edinburgh school debating chamber to the imbeciles at hampden. There are enemies everywhere, gersneters don't have to look very far to see the trojan horses.