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Celtic give to hospital in a city in another country which has no connections whatsoever other than it's where that countries FA Headquarters are. I could understand this random gesture if it was Dublin or Barcelona etc. This random gesture immediately finds itself reported on the front page of a well known Scottish Rhag, and nowhere else. It was listed among many others on page somewhere in a few other papers however, such is any relevance. I treat everything which comes out of that place only due to it's incessant "look at us, aren't we always nice". Especially as we all know what a vile club they are along with most of their fans.

As it turns out they're only one of a large number of firms up and down the Country doing likewise. Didn't see them mentioned in the Scottish press.

She's like the "adhd" kid in the supermarket.

So, dafty is saying, once you become bankrupt, you also die!!! That's terrible so it is !

I wonder if this could be Jim Traynor's opening move?

What a great read D. I totally agree with your sentiment. I regard myself as a rational and reasonable individual, but this whole chapter in Our history has left me bitter and angry at the way the Support have been treated by all and sundry, media and other Clubs. It will indeed take a long time to get over this but in a way I'm kinda glad it happened. I always had the feeling we would come though it and emerge the stronger for it. This is now happening sooner than I ever would have dared to think. It can only be attributed to Our great support, sure and steadfast, and, the emergence of the right man for the job, Charles Green. We will never be mucked about like this again, that's for sure.

I also don't care about Stein's private life, true or not. At least none of it broke any laws. He will always be an iconic manager for me. However, I am concerned with the censorship.

Does this make things any clearer. Extract from the Share Offer. Certain players of RFC 2012 plc (Alan McGregor, Kyle Lafferty, Rhys McCabe, Sone Aluko, Steven Davis, John Fleck, Steven Naismith, Steven Whittaker and Jamie Ness) purported to object to the transfer of their contracts of employment to RFCL pursuant to TUPE. RFCL maintains that these purported objections were incompetent and that the players instead unilaterally terminated their contracts of employment in an unlawful manner. Arbitration proceedings under Article 99 of the Articles of Association of the SFA were commenced on 5 July 2012 in the name of RFC 2012 plc. Any damages due would be payable to RFCL. RFCL was not a member of the SFA at that time and therefore the reference had to be made by RFC 2012 plc. RFC 2012 plc accepts that it has no financial interest in the outcome. Discussions took place with representatives of some of the players and agreements have now been reached with Steven Davis, John Fleck and Rhys McCabe. Representatives acting on behalf of the remaining players have challenged RFCL’s rights to participate in the process in any capacity given that it was not a member of the SFA at the time of the alleged breaches of contract and the date of the reference to the SFA under Article 99. A preliminary hearing has been fixed for 7 January 2013 at which these jurisdictional challenges will be determined. If RFCL is successful at this hearing, then the claims against the remaining players will proceed to a full hearing. At this point it is anticipate that such a full hearing will take place in March or April of 2013. Preliminary advice from senior counsel is that RFCL's prospects of winning these preliminary arguments are good. However, it is not currently possible to quantify these claims in full. Ann I 20.8 105The only financial liability that RFCL could incur as a result of the Article 99 process is an award of expenses in the event that it is unsuccessful in its claims against the players. It is far from certain that such an award of expenses would be made, even if RFCL lost the case. In any event it is not anticipated that these costs would exceed £30,000. 11.4 PFA Scotland has raised an employment tribunal claim against RFCL on behalf of 67 unnamed players at the employment tribunal in Glasgow. The claim relates to an alleged failure on behalf of RFC 2012 plc to inform and consult with affected employees prior to the TUPE transfer on 14 June 2012. Both RFCL and Rangers 2012 plc have been cited and compensation can be awarded on a joint and several basis. RFCL's advisers have taken issue with PFA's right to bring such a claim on behalf of the players. Senior counsel's advice has been taken on the matter and a robust opinion has been given to the effect that PFA Scotland has no locus or standing to raise such a claim. RFCL advisers are therefore attempting to have the employment tribunal fix a pre-hearing review at which this issue can be finally determined. If RFCL’s preliminary challenge to the bringing of this claim is successful that will be the end of the matter. It is not currently possible to quantify these claims in full. 11.5 Sone Aluko, Kyle Lafferty and Jamie Ness have raised employment tribunal claims against Newco. They claim constructive dismissal. RFCL has challenged the right of these players to bring such claims for a number of separate jurisdictional reasons, but in any event these are low value claims. The players were all employed by new clubs almost immediately on financial terms which we understand are at least as beneficial as those they enjoyed with RFC 2012 plc. The Club’s advisers believe that these claims have simply been lodged for tactical purposes that relate to the SFA arbitration described in paragraph 11.3 above. It is not currently possible to quantify these claims in full. 11.6 There has been no governmental, legal or arbitration proceedings (including any such proceedings which are pending or threatened of which any member of the Rangers Group is aware) which may have, or have had during the 12 months preceding the date of this document a significant effect on the financial position or profitability of the Rangers Group. 12. Material contracts 12.1 The following are all of the contracts, not being contracts entered into in the ordinary course of business, which: (i) are or may be material to the RFCL Group, and have been entered into by and/or a member of the RFCL Group within the two years immediately preceding the date of this document; or (ii) (regardless of when entered into) contain provisions under which a member of the RFCL Group has an obligation or entitlement which is or may be material to the RFCL Group, as at the date of this document:

Another blog on the subject. As you can see Carlos Bocanegra is also on the list !! Someone's at it ! http://celticnewco.livejournal.com/1505.html

What did Regan say ?

Exactly! Whyte's actions did indeed lead to breaking point. It set off a chain reaction which, in my opinion, was dealt with as best as it could be, albeit with many twists and turns along the way. Along that journey, many other clubs did their damnedest to kill us off when, as we witnessed with the English FA and Pompey, "sporting integrity" should have meant they would have tried to help us. Quite simple really. Charles Green has used his business acumen to put us back on an even keel, what's wrong with that? He would be failing his responsibilities it he hadn't. I can't see what Mr. English's problem is. I can only deduce where it's coming from. I hate celtic with a passion, therefore can only see everything they do as being cynical, nasty and in their own self interest. Ipso facto, Mr. English must presume everything Rangers do is the same.

Get this recording out in the mainstream media please...anyone ?

Should an appeal be granted and should it be "successful", what will HMRC gain financially against an already insolvent owner ?

It's worth a go dB! Is this the real reason for "League reconstruction" ?

I think JT isn't afraid to speak his own mind and therefore angers different folk at different times. This shows to me he only has his own "agenda" and no-one elses. An "honest" journo is very rare, especially here in Salmond's Scotland.

Interesting ! Ian Small http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/biographies/biogs/scotland/iansmall.shtml

Many of the players who "benefited" entertained the fans, won trophies and left everyone with fantastic memories. I'm happy with that.

Apparently so. My MP informed this is the case. Although I'm sure Fans' groups should be able to start a "paper" one.

Archie's been wasting his time over the years. A surprisingly eloquent and thoughtful piece.. Nice one Archie.

It appears to allow 2 signitaries per e-mail address. Share it with a non 'net friend! Also, folk with no computer can visit their local library or similar and ask someone to help them set up an "address"! Where there's will there's a way.

Can I ask everyone to spend at least 20 minutes of their time trying to garner support for this Petition. E-mails, Twitter, Facebook, Blogs, Telephone calls to everyone you can think of to get this investigation underway as soon as possible. Suggestions, all Fans' groups, Supporters Clubs, Associations, friends or associates from other Clubs, Celebrities and their followers (eg. Gordon Ramsay has over a million "followers"), other supporters' groups from other "friendly" Clubs, Arsenal for example. Twitter in particular has great potential for achieving this goal sooner rather than later. Intense activity could achieve this in less than a week. By the way, I believe the Club will announce it's public endorsement for this at the Cup game with Elgin this weekend. Cheers.

I think you can draw only two conclusions from this. 1. The person is an out and out nut-job! or, 2. There is another agenda at play. Mind you, if this is the case they're not very secretive by posting their findings on Twitter! So, I'll stick with the nut-job.

Hi Steve, we ALL must write to our MPs to make sure these "Official Secrets" (leaks) no longer happen again ! It's bad enough that we have been sriously wounded but what if such information concerning other entities, Companies working for MoD for example, had their dealings readily available to the highest bidder. Safeguards must be put in place to prevent this ever happening again! I have written to HMRC concerning this and received a positive and concerned reply. My responder was RUSSELL, Lesley (lesley.russell@parliament.uk)15/11/2012 Please feel free to voice your requests to this Public Servant.

Here you go chaps http://www.vavel.com/author/Phil/

Even if they were to win any appeal, which is doubtful, EBTs weren't taxable until 2011 I believe. Even then, loans are considered repayable therefore not taxable income. (what would happen when the loan was repaid, the tax refunded ? ..don't think so), Anyway, there is practically no cash left from "oldco" to pay them. It could drag on for years and cost a fortune. Rangers could then also appeal citing HMRC's previous leniency to other "avoiders", phone companies etc. This is just my opinion based on common sense and logic, if anyone knows otherwise, please enlighten us.