aweebluesoandso 290 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Oh that Clyde Blowers, not to be mixed up with a wee massage parlor up the West End that i mistakenly went into twice. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucible 0 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Hugely disappointing and says nothing new or of any note from the meeting. King is said to meeting the Easdales at this moment. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy steel 0 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Bit nothingy, on a first reading. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie P 4 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 All a bit bland isn't it. I had hoped that there would be more of the future plans revealed, but perhaps this is being held back for the AGM. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEARGER 1,830 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 RST MINUTE OF MEETING Q&A Summary of Meeting With Jim McColl Official Statement - POSTED ON OCTOBER 25, 2013 Meeting – Attendees – Jim McColl, Malcolm Murray & Paul Murray plus representatives from Rangers Supporters Trust, Rangers Supporters Association, Rangers Supporters Assembly and NARSA – Clyde Blowers – East Kilbride 4.00 24/10/2013 Paul Murray gave a brief introduction on why the group represented had come together and Jim McColl listed a number of serious concerns they all shared about a lack of corporate governance and financial transparency. The purpose of the meeting however was to afford the representatives of the fans groups the opportunity to get answers to specific questions. Questions had been collated under 3 Core Themes Immediate Issues Future Plans, Investment and Operations Fan Ownership Immediate Issues The perception that amongst the fans groups represented is that there is perhaps 50% general support for the group and 50% who at this time are not : The hosts were asked to tell us a bit about their team and why fans should support each? Paul Murray and Malcolm Murray briefly explained their backgrounds much of which was seen as commonly known. The other 2 people nominated for Board positions were spoken about: Alex Wilson Has a wide ranging skill set in Human Resource Management and Industrial Relations A history of working with very senior people at a number of Blue Chip organisations Extensive experience in managing operational changes at large organisations Alex has multiple season tickets for Ibrox and has been a long term fan Would be invaluable in building a new organisation and structure at Rangers Scott Murdoch Has a major interest in property management One of the largest portfolios in UK Major involvement in the London market Also operates in New York & Hong Kong Has been London based for 25/30 years Scott has been a lifelong Rangers fan He has extensive commercial contacts in a number of global brand companies At this time the hosts were asked to comment on the question of securing Ibrox Stadium and Auchenhowie and if they would consider an asset lock on them? They confirmed they would take steps to do that – this would entail consultation with the shareholder base. They spoke about Rangers Directors being bound by a constitution established to do just that and to also constrain future Boards from for example borrowing beyond agreed levels. The Financial Position – there were lots of questions on this: Have you a current view or a plan to do a detailed health check? How serious a threat do you consider there is of Admin 2? Do you envisage a short-term need for refinancing and how will you deal with it? Are you for or against resolutions 9 & 10 and why? Would you deal again with Ticketus? The hosts have detailed views on financial issues but their main concern is to create a structure at The Club led by a quality CEO. They have identified and had discussions with a suitable candidate who they believe would work with them. They have also targeted a highly credible Head of Finance. Making such high profile appointments will they believe gain further support from the major financial institutions invested in Rangers. They are satisfied that this will help in securing further investment if and when required. The business will have a very credible executive management who will not only look over the recent past forensically but implement robust business and financial plans. The football operation will be able to focus on developing the team and on the field performance. It was the group’s view that there is no real likelihood of a further administration nor did they see any issue over short term financing. Resolutions 9 & 10 are not hugely unusual but at this time they agreed with the questioners that this was not appropriate for Rangers. Ticketus are not part of any future plans. AGM – It was stated that Rangers fans generally feel they have a lack of information from all sides and again a number of specifics were posed: Have you had recent dialogue with any of the other main parties and do you envisage any of them being involved in the future? Daniel Stewart – yes in trying to speed up the AGM process and they are still trying to progress this. Paul Murray stated that AGM could be held somewhere other than Ibrox and has someone willing to pay for an alternate venue. The current Executive Directors of Rangers – not recently Dave King – yes and meetings are planned over the next few days. Nothing specific has yet been agreed with him. Martin Bain – Paul Murray has a business relationship with Martin but the group have no intention of inviting his involvement with Rangers Mike Ashley – not recently What do you think about the possibility of shares being suspended? Jim McColl suggested that such an action if taken by AIM would only be to protect shareholders What are your views on the date of the AGM? Disappointed that since the Court of Session ruling it seems that the current Directors are trying to delay it – they would like it to be held as soon as proper governance would allow. Future Plans, Investment & Operations Plans Members of the Rangers support many of whom are shareholders are rightly concerned to be comfortable with plans going forward and a series of questions were raised in this respect: Have you considered how to deal with and can you share your thinking on matters like Scouting Maintenance Operational budgets Media & PR Will you examine contracts entered into on such as Security, retail and catering – will you share your findings? Yes on both counts but that will be part of the detailed implementation of agreed business plans. The Club has suffered of late from the lack of proper plans and not having a scouting network for example. It may not be appropriate to report every change implemented by the executive management of The Club. One of the key responsibilities of a CEO will be to examine and renegotiate any contracts that are not to his satisfaction in serving the best interests of The Club. Have you identified and can you share info on potential future investors? There are a number of prospective investors. The Institutions have indicated future support if a suitable structure is put in place. A number of individuals are considered prospective investors under the same pre-requisite. How do you propose to get The Club back to the pinnacle of Scottish Football and playing competitively in Europe – do you have a timescale? What differentiates you and your 5-year vision from the current Directors? Establishing a strong management structure that gains respect and support from the market will be the first critical step. Fan Ownership There were a lot of questions on this topic a lot of questions on this: Have you already considered this issue in detail? Will you publically back a fan ownership scheme – a 50+1 deal? What timescale would that be likely to take? Will you work with supporters to develop this concept? Will you also show a care of duty to supporters like Borrusia D? How quickly if/after you are elected will you devote serious reported efforts to this end? The intention is firmly to work towards proper fan involvement. All three of the hosts confirmed their support for this. The nitty gritty detail needs to be addressed but a future shareholder structure where Financial Institutions, High Net Worth Individuals and Individual Fans and Fans Organisations all had significant holdings would be welcomed. The group would canvass the support for input before anything was implemented. There is a very positive view of Rangers in the City and the relative value gap between for example Manchester United and Rangers was perceived to be considerably less than the current relative values of the businesses. Likely changes to football in Europe and North America over the next few years are likely to benefit a big club such as Rangers. The way German football was completely restructured over 10 years demonstrates that massive change takes time. Nobody wants or supports extensive borrowing by The Club – that model has clearly and consistently been proved to be a seriously flawed one. The group stated that they want to build trust between the Board and all of the stakeholders in The Club and they believe the best way to do that is by appointing quality people. They stated that doing that (and reiterated that they believe they have identified such individuals) ensures financial support will follow. Close Jim McColl, Paul Murray & Malcolm Murray stated that they have dealt with all sorts of blockages but that they have and will stick with their plans to introduce changes. They welcome future dialogue and involvement with Fans. They want to re-establish Rangers as the most successful Club in Scotland but to do it on a sustainable basis. They want the AGM to proceed as soon as possible. It was agreed that minutes of the meeting would be produced as quickly as possible – approved by the attendees and circulated amongst the Rangers support. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannochsidebear 2,405 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Did anyone else get the feeling that the minutes were going to be a bit of a nothing to report here kind of thing as soon as they seen that there was pictures taken at the start of the meeting and blasted all over the papers this morning. I must admit I was very disappointed that photos and a big blowy story about the meeting were in todays rags ahead of anything concrete to tell the punters. It stinked of a big PR stunt from McColl/Murray. Hopefully they told the guys a lot more detail of their plans than what they were allowed to report and that the news will get out at the right time, as this was a great opportunity to get the fans onboard from their perspective and one I hope they didnt blow, as while I dont rate Paul Murray at all, they are by far the more preferable option than the current board/owners. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 0 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I really shouldn't of got my hopes up, after the questions they aimed at the current board I thought we might of got a lot more out of MM/PM/JM, but we got diddly squat and just seemed like how a chit chat would be after a proper meeting would go. Very disappointed and not really made me want to vote for these guya 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aweebluesoandso 290 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Did anyone else get the feeling that the minutes were going to be a bit of a nothing to report here kind of thing as soon as they seen that there was pictures taken at the start of the meeting and blasted all over the papers this morning. I must admit I was very disappointed that photos and a big blowy story about the meeting were in todays rags ahead of anything concrete to tell the punters. It stinked of a big PR stunt from McColl/Murray. Hopefully they told the guys a lot more detail of their plans than what they were allowed to report and that the news will get out at the right time, as this was a great opportunity to get the fans onboard from their perspective and one I hope they didnt blow, as while I dont rate Paul Murray at all, they are by far the more preferable option than the current board/owners. I think it's a massive step forward in how McColl is dealing with his involvement in our club, there was a time not long ago when he ran a mile when his name was outed as someone wanting to do business with the RST. I believe he is fully committed to getting Rangers back to the top of Scottish football, now if we could get a dream team of McColl, King, and their representatives together, what a formable board that would be. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Bear 0 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 When assessing any business, the quality of the management team is right at the top of the list of things to look for. Fix that and in most circumstances everything else falls into place eventually - particularly in terms of accessing new capital. Failing to confirm the additional names they have in mind was the only real disappointment for me. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I think it's a massive step forward in how McColl is dealing with his involvement in our club, there was a time not long ago when he ran a mile when his name was outed as someone wanting to do business with the RST. I believe he is fully committed to getting Rangers back to the top of Scottish football, now if we could get a dream team of McColl, King, and their representatives together, what a formable board that would be. I can't see McColl and King ever working well together. Shared ownership/control of a football club just does not work aside from the likes of Barca which is entirely different and still boils down to singular elected leadership. Everyone wanted shared ownership/control after Murray and Whyte but I just knew how dire it would be. It's even worse. At least when Murray and Whyte were in control we did not have board members recording each other when they were pished saying they wanted to punch them. And also constantly leaking board room details to timmy. Absolute mess. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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