aweebluesoandso 290 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 The RST are aligned with the current board and were most vocal about the previous lot, that is except for McCoist. His exorbitant wage wasn't questioned in the same way as the likes of Green, Ahmad et al. His bung from Green of 1m shares was never used against him the way it was with others. Why? Because he was on the same side as them and it didn't suit the agenda that was being pushed. They are not the only group who have been happy to indulge in propaganda in the belief that their own missions would be achieved in the process. The support have never been as one, never, but the various self-interest groups that have been set up over the years have smashed any fissures into deep ravines. Sadly, the clock cannot be turned back. I have some sympathy with that view , like i have said in my previous post a lot of agenda and Jockeying for postilion did go on. No one comes away without criticism, also those same organisation, Union Of Fans, SOS, RF, RST did some good things as well. I'm a member of the RST. I only joined them two season ago because despite their allegiances to various board's they did generally fight the fans corner especially against our many enemies in the mhedia and across the city. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) I find it impossible trublu to forget the issues surrounding SD' date=' even for a minute, to me they bring all the factors together in one contract the need for total transparency. Can I ask you then, if you think it is unacceptable for business partners to open themselves up - should SD's demand for confidentiality over our retail contract be honoured & observed ?[/quote'] Let me first say from what i know of the contract it is an abomination and how i imagine it came to fruition should be (if not already) illegal. The only way the contract could be opened up is through a combative stance. I would be all for that, but we would lose in court. That is a given. The financial cost of such a stance would need to be rigorously evaluated first. Then its a matter of weighing it up with how much damage can be done to sd as a brand in sport. Me , personally i would have leaked the documents I don't think the board had any intention of letting the fans know, it was a negotiating strategy that sd countered. Its not unacceptable for business partners to open themselves up, it's commercial suicide. You would be telling every competitor of your modus operandi while opening up every other similar deal you have in place for renegotiation. Basically it would amount to removing commercialisation from sport. A very interesting thought. Edited June 28, 2015 by trublusince1982 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangersitis 0 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I have some sympathy with that view , like i have said in my previous post a lot of agenda and Jockeying for postilion did go on. No one comes away without criticism, also those same organisation, Union Of Fans, SOS, RF, RST did some good things as well. I'm a member of the RST. I only joined them two season ago because despite their allegiances to various board's they did generally fight the fans corner especially against our many enemies in the mhedia and across the city. Which allowed the real enemies within Ibrox to do their worst. Far too much emphasis goes towards external nonsense. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aweebluesoandso 290 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Which allowed the real enemies within Ibrox to do their worst. Far too much emphasis goes towards external nonsense. I take your point, but taking on the lies in the media is hardly nonsense. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangersitis 0 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I take your point, but taking on the lies in the media is hardly nonsense. Just remembered that we've done this conversation on a previous thread, so little point in repeating things. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 The RST are aligned with the current board and were most vocal about the previous lot, that is except for McCoist. His exorbitant wage wasn't questioned in the same way as the likes of Green, Ahmad et al. His bung from Green of 1m shares was never used against him the way it was with others. Why? Because he was on the same side as them and it didn't suit the agenda that was being pushed. They are not the only group who have been happy to indulge in propaganda in the belief that their own missions would be achieved in the process. The support have never been as one, never, but the various self-interest groups that have been set up over the years have smashed any fissures into deep ravines. Sadly, the clock cannot be turned back. I have totally no link to the RST but your statement is totally unfair. Hindsight is a fantastic thing and we were virtually all behind Ally at that time. You will probably say you weren't but in answer to that there is little you find positive about rangers. You are the perfect example of what is being discussed in DÁrts thread. A whisperer in the dark. Maybe if you try to do something within you will get more respect and possibly a new vision on things. I doubt if you want that though, it is easier to be an anonymous rebel behind a keyboard. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
limeburner 0 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 D'Art you write well as always and I wish all Gers fans were like you. Sadly they're not. I don't know you but we've crossed paths several times on forums. I admire your ethic the same as I admire the ethics of all good people who espouse goodness, honesty and are true to a noble cause. You're right of course but you've been right for a long time. Does it ever get you down this division amongst us? You constantly talk sense but is there no frustration within you that, whilst we are all Rangers fans, so many seem to have so much self-interest at heart that we seem incapable of being totally united and moving forward as one. It frustrates me. You've pretty much nailed your colours to the mast, I on the other hand, whilst agreeing with your sentiments find the fact we can't totally get behind some things as basic as you say, crazy...to say the least. I find I can take no side as unity is what I want. I'm sure your take on it it is to stand strong and continue fighting the good fight but sooner or later, we have to accept that the constant splintering of our support cannot continue. It simply cannot. Together we truly are a force to be reckoned with. Forget everything else....THIS is our biggest failing. So simple yet seemingly so hard to fix. Nice words lucyBlue.Dont you remember it was around six weeks ago that you were encouraging me to hang myself.Youre a hyprocrite. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Nice words lucyBlue.Dont you remember it was around six weeks ago that you were encouraging me to hang myself.Youre a hyprocrite. We all are when it suits us. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
limeburner 0 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 We all are when it suits us. If the cap fits. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangersitis 0 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I have totally no link to the RST but your statement is totally unfair. Hindsight is a fantastic thing and we were virtually all behind Ally at that time. You will probably say you weren't but in answer to that there is little you find positive about rangers. You are the perfect example of what is being discussed in DÁrts thread. A whisperer in the dark. Maybe if you try to do something within you will get more respect and possibly a new vision on things. I doubt if you want that though, it is easier to be an anonymous rebel behind a keyboard. There isn't a lot to be positive about where Rangers are concerned and that has been the case for a number of years now. Should I just shut up and let lies become truths and allow history to be revised in order to save the blushes of others? If you wish to turn a blind eye to the agenda-driven behaviour of the RST, VB or SoS, batter on, but it comes across as very strange that a mod on a discussion forum would decry anyone for daring to state their position. As for me being anonymous, I have met people who use this board and if you would like me to provide you with my name, address and Rangers history just say so. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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