pete 2,499 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 The Thistle fans held it up alongside a Yes flag. The intent was obvious. Does someone holding a yes banner and a Catalan flag get under your skin? It would make totally no difference to me. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,752 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 No, it wouldn't. I've witnessed similar things at many matches all over Scotland - it's water off a duck's back. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) to be quite honest...someone holding up a Union flag is more offensive to me.... Separation, Independence etc or not, it's irrelevant.....both Rangers & Partick Thistle are SCOTTISH clubs, as such no-one should be reprimanded or punished for waving a Scottish flag. As for the Catalan flag....same as a Tri-colour....it has no place in a Scottish football ground (Though I do support the Catalan cause....) (give me a minute while I put on my tin hat.... ) Edited November 13, 2017 by Darthter 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,752 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 It was a Saltire with Yes written across it. So it represents 45% of Scotland, rather than Scotland. And you can't wave a Union Jack at Ibrox as Ibrox isn't a boat. It's the Union Flag you'd be waving. I love a bit of banter at the football and welcome it from opposition fans. When I go to Ibrox, I'm usually in GF2 and often enjoy the wind-ups with opposition fans. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Maybe I’m naive but I don’t consider bringing a UJ to a Rangers game as winding up Time and others. I did say many and I know it's not all. It's not really a bad thing per se for me, but I'm trying to be consistent. For me, what is really bad how offended the Tims are by the flag. I see it as homage to our history. We are Scottish AND British. For example, when a prominent journalist called us the “quintessentially British club” I took that as an honor we were being applauded as being true to our roots. I think a lot of so called Rangers history is, unfortunately, purely a reaction to the plastic paddy, Irish republican, IRA supporting, Catholic, anti-British, anti monarchy of the other side of Glasgow. A lot of Rangers fans seem to define themselves by being as opposite as they can: staunch British, royalist, supporter of the Orange Order and maybe the UDA, proddy, pope hater, and unionist. But in the end you are hijacking a flag as yours and only yours, and therefore alienating supporters of other clubs to it (whichever flag you use). And that's just not very unifying for a unionist. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I think it's sad to see the way "staunch" has come to be used as a negative attribute. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 And you can't wave a Union Jack at Ibrox as Ibrox isn't a boat. It's the Union Flag you'd be waving. Wouldn't that be Ibrox Stadium rather than Ibrox? You must get really pedantic when people use the terms, "Gers", "Teddy Bears", "Light Blues", "Glasgow Rangers", "Queens eleven" etc, instead of "Rangers Football Club". Amazing that someone would argue against the most common term used by British people for their national flag. It would be very British to call it that even if it wasn't official, which it is. Have a look here: https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/british-flags/the-union-jack-or-the-union-flag/ Or how about here: http://www.know-britain.com/general/union_jack.html Thing is, I knew someone would bring this up. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I think it's sad to see the way "staunch" has come to be used as a negative attribute. I didn't use it negatively in the post above yours, purely descriptive. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,354 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 to be quite honest...someone holding up a Union flag is more offensive to me.... ) You must get offended at Ibrox a lot. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,354 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (Though I do support the Catalan cause....) ) It's like the Celtic fans and the Palestinian cause 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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