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A record £4.8m was paid to wind farm operators in the space of one day, for switching off turbines when it became too windy.

More than 60 farms — most in Scotland — were compensated after electricity supply outstripped demand on October 8. The bonanza far exceeded the previous reported record of £3.1m, sparking fresh criticism of the Scottish government’s headlong rush towards green energy.

In exceptionally windy conditions, the National Grid cannot cope with the extra energy turbines produce, so firms receive “constraint payments” to shut down. Although most wind power comes from Scotland, households across Britain are funding the payments through their electricity bills.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scotland/too-much-wind-shocks-electric-bill-payers-lcgw3cwpz?fbclid=IwAR0pqa_1PeeEMx8AFbnp93S08YmA-c49PXphRDtQCdWTefvcQuy1zdKimUc

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11 hours ago, Bill said:

A record £4.8m was paid to wind farm operators in the space of one day, for switching off turbines when it became too windy.

More than 60 farms — most in Scotland — were compensated after electricity supply outstripped demand on October 8. The bonanza far exceeded the previous reported record of £3.1m, sparking fresh criticism of the Scottish government’s headlong rush towards green energy.

In exceptionally windy conditions, the National Grid cannot cope with the extra energy turbines produce, so firms receive “constraint payments” to shut down. Although most wind power comes from Scotland, households across Britain are funding the payments through their electricity bills.

 

Are you going to regularly start campaigning for a fairer distribution of wealth ?

 

It's very apparent that the culture of absolute greed at the top end and taking advantage of the power & influence they enjoy to push it is endemic in the extreme and posionous style of capitalism that has developed in recent decades.

 

Squeeze those middle to bottom until the pips start zinging accross the room and ensure a constant flow of wealth upwards and from public to private.

 

Not forgetting to have a two-tier system of law and justice, which basically means it doesn't apply to the powerful ...........and let those proven to be irresponsible cut away the regulation....that of course will end well, won't it ?...for some it might, for most of us, we'll simply pay for it.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, buster. said:

Are you going to regularly start campaigning for a fairer distribution of wealth ?

 

It's very apparent that the culture of absolute greed at the top end and taking advantage of the power & influence they enjoy to push it is endemic in the extreme and posionous style of capitalism that has developed in recent decades.

 

Squeeze those middle to bottom until the pips start zinging accross the room and ensure a constant flow of wealth upwards and from public to private.

 

Not forgetting to have a two-tier system of law and justice, which basically means it doesn't apply to the powerful ...........and let those proven to be irresponsible cut away the regulation....that of course will end well, won't it ?...for some it might, for most of us, we'll simply pay for it.

 

 

Another joyful quote from the book of socialist resentment? I’d hate to wake up every morning with a chip on my shoulder as big as yours. You must be a delight to be around 😂

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8 minutes ago, Bill said:

Another joyful quote from the book of socialist resentment? I’d hate to wake up every morning with a chip on my shoulder as big as yours. You must be a delight to be around 😂

Instead of the standard empty and boring response, perhaps you may want to elaborate on the actual topic.

 

The quote you C&P'd finished with ....."Although most wind power comes from Scotland, households across Britain are funding the payments through their electricity bills.....".

 

It would seem as though you don't actually care about those households accross Britain and just want to make a political point wrt Scotlland and it's government. In other words, you are as empty as the politicans you both have a go at and support.

 

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7 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

Bill’s OP was critical of system, government and excess profit.

 

Thought you might agree with that, buster.

Bill's OP was C&P'd from a newspaper.

 

I wanted to know what his view was on that given that in good part it was different to his customary view.

I commented on the broad and fundamental issues that I think ly behind much of what was in the OP.

 

I got an empty response.

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2 hours ago, buster. said:

Instead of the standard empty and boring response, perhaps you may want to elaborate on the actual topic.

 

The quote you C&P'd finished with ....."Although most wind power comes from Scotland, households across Britain are funding the payments through their electricity bills.....".

 

It would seem as though you don't actually care about those households accross Britain and just want to make a political point wrt Scotlland and it's government. In other words, you are as empty as the politicans you both have a go at and support.

 

Sorry but for some reason every time I read your post I fall asleep at the end of the first line. 

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On 28/10/2018 at 21:50, Bill said:

A record £4.8m was paid to wind farm operators in the space of one day, for switching off turbines when it became too windy.

More than 60 farms — most in Scotland — were compensated after electricity supply outstripped demand on October 8. The bonanza far exceeded the previous reported record of £3.1m, sparking fresh criticism of the Scottish government’s headlong rush towards green energy.

In exceptionally windy conditions, the National Grid cannot cope with the extra energy turbines produce, so firms receive “constraint payments” to shut down. Although most wind power comes from Scotland, households across Britain are funding the payments through their electricity bills.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scotland/too-much-wind-shocks-electric-bill-payers-lcgw3cwpz?fbclid=IwAR0pqa_1PeeEMx8AFbnp93S08YmA-c49PXphRDtQCdWTefvcQuy1zdKimUc

So, your complaint this time is that ScotGov's renewable incentive is producing too much green energy & that's a bad thing???

 

From memory, one of the main problems here is that Nuclear & fossil fuel power stations HAVE to maintain a certain output level constantly otherwise they experience major issues & delayed/slow restart times - so they need to be on all the time.  If they are "turned off", due to the slow "spin-up" time, they would end up being a power shortage - wind power does not have this problem.  So, until 100% of required electricity, 100% of the time can be generated by non-nuclear/fossil power station, the more tradition power stations can not be decommissioned.

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