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On 23/10/2019 at 17:52, Bill said:

Disreputable, disgraceful, disloyal, despicable, disgusting, detestable, devious 🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀

A ghastly creature 

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When Harold Wilson won in 1964 I thought that would be the dawn of socialism in our country. Oh dear how wrong was I!  However now we have Jeremy Corbyn I am tempted to go for this old time socialism and see if the electorate  are willing to give up some of their wealth for the good of all. 

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25 minutes ago, les186 said:

When Harold Wilson won in 1964 I thought that would be the dawn of socialism in our country. Oh dear how wrong was I!  However now we have Jeremy Corbyn I am tempted to go for this old time socialism and see if the electorate  are willing to give up some of their wealth for the good of all. 

I don’t have

Gimme yours

Gimme it for nothing

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12 hours ago, Bill said:

I don’t have

Gimme yours

Gimme it for nothing

No, the people with that attitude are the bosses of Thomas Cook who 'earned' huge bonuses for running a failing enterprise and Northern Rail or whatever they call it this week, not to mention Mr Ashley.

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13 hours ago, les186 said:

When Harold Wilson won in 1964 I thought that would be the dawn of socialism in our country. Oh dear how wrong was I!  However now we have Jeremy Corbyn I am tempted to go for this old time socialism and see if the electorate  are willing to give up some of their wealth for the good of all. 

Amazes me that people who have nothing in common with the powerful elite are so willing to align themselves with it, at the same time pouring scorn on a philosophy that seeks to redress some of the balance.

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22 hours ago, compo said:

A ghastly creature 

But she's all right though, ain't she?:

 

Imagine if Corbyn had actually said that.

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22 hours ago, alexscottislegend said:

That comes across as a "how can I be racist? I have black friends" type of argument.

 

As for not all Jews being like Louise Ellman, it'd be a surprise if they were all the same but there are a lot around where I stay, some of whom I know, who are very much supportive of her way of thinking, and I've just seen one post the following article on FB. I've not come across any who take the JVL view. 

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As a rabbi, I say that it is wrong to support Labour

 

There has long been a golden rule that religion and politics do not mix, and that clergy in particular should not be engaged in politics. This has led to considerable frustration among ministers of religion who have felt that much of the Bible’s social teaching, such as the protection of the poor and the vulnerable, could not be put into practice without radical political action. Those who felt impelled to protest against the nuclear bomb, the war in Vietnam or homelessness were equally unwilling to limit their sermons to flower-arranging or otherworldly topics.

 

The result was that a mantra arose that declared one could be political but not party-political; push for action but not endorse a political party per se. If the calls for change happened to coincide with the policies of a particular party, that was fine so long as clergy stuck to the cause and did not promote the party.

 

This is certainly a line to which I have held throughout my own rabbinate, often taking up issues — from faith schools (against) to assisted dying (for) — but never publicly allying myself with any one party. When it came to general elections, I often preached about Jewish values but then left it up to congregants to interpret which party encompassed them most. It would have been unthinkable to suggest which way they should vote.

 

This needs to change for the coming election. The antisemitism that has come to the fore within the Labour Party during the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn means that normal considerations are superseded. It is astonishing that a mainstream party should have such associations, and that the evidence of it is serious enough for Labour to be investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

 

The immediate effect may be on Jews but it has a corrosive effect on politics in general and the country at large. Racism against Jews is invariably followed by discrimination against others. I shall therefore be advising my congregants, and anyone else who cares to ask, to vote for whichever party in their constituency is most likely to stop Labour from winning that seat, even if they would never normally support that party.

 

This is not a stance against Labour in perpetuity but against Corbyn-led Labour and will be abandoned the moment he is no longer at the helm. Religion should not be party-political. This, however, is a moment to take a stand against a party that has a noble history of fighting prejudice but has lost its way and needs to be resoundingly defeated until it regains its principles.

 

Jonathan Romain is rabbi of Maidenhead Synagogue

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/as-a-rabbi-i-say-that-it-is-wrong-to-support-labour-gzdrg7h27?shareToken=36bc1b0ccba8ef531bd68a26c3119ec6&fbclid=IwAR3XGOApcxhqEQkMyPx_a6CeZKDfhPp5F06ewhAyFhib5qNf_w5P_1r_1g8

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