Rousseau 9,598 Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 11 hours ago, Scott7 said: DoF. Forwards coach. Defence coach. Goalkeepers coach. Set piece coach. Throw in coach. Now a coaching coach. What’s the manager do? You're not suggesting a GK coach is some new, hipster nonsense, are you? There should not be a manager role now, in my opinion. It should be a Head Coach. He'll be in charge of all the first-team coaches, playing strategy, tactics, match plans, etc. Anything directly first-team related. You wouldn't expect GvB to have to coach all the Goalkeepers, B-team, and the U-18s, U-14s... etc.? Bowley's role is just to manage our array of coaches, to make sure they're all on the same page. All the while, I would hope, passing on the ideas and principles that have made City Group such a force in world football. That's not unreasonable. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,875 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rousseau said: You're not suggesting a GK coach is some new, hipster nonsense, are you? You said it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 9,598 Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, buster. said: How important was financial muscle to Leipzig ? Bear in mind, we don't have it. It certainly helps, but not very, I would argue. These models help to negate the need for huge financial backing. While PSG can spend £200m on Neymar, Leipzig’s record signing (Naby Keita) cost £25m, with no other signings costing more than £20m. Even that is relatively recent. They've never been big spenders. It's always intelligent signings, based on age and potential. Obviously now, because they are a top-3 side in the Bundesliga, they can out-spend a lot of clubs. The model is still the same, though. RB are a big company but they can't compete with Bayern Munich and Dortmund, never mind the PSGs, Man Citys and the Spannish clubs! We're not trying to run an array of clubs, like RB and City Group. We're just trying to take some of the successful aspects of their models, and implement it in one club. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 9,598 Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: You said it. Rousseau's Law: any time 'Hipster' is uttered, the thread is over? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 5,324 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Goal keeping coaches are fine, been around a long time and ‘keepers are strange creatures plying an unusual trade understandable only to their own kind. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 9,598 Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Scott7 said: Goal keeping coaches are fine, been around a long time and ‘keepers are strange creatures plying an unusual trade understandable only to their own kind. What about a set-piece coach? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 5,324 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rousseau said: What about a set-piece coach? Goal kicks, free kicks, corners and penalties. Not a lot and all within the province of the head coach, surely. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 4,846 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, Rousseau said: What about a set-piece coach? A good set-piece coach is a wise and practical investment that will give a good return. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 9,598 Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Scott7 said: Goal kicks, free kicks, corners and penalties. Not a lot and all within the province of the head coach, surely. Really? You expect the head coach to draw up the countless plans of ball deliveries and player movements? Tottenham have just appointed a set-piece coach, Gianni Vio, one of the best, who supposedly has 4,830 variations in his set-pieces. I've mentioned Huddersfield this season, who have a superb set-piece coach, because they've scored 20 goals (or something like that) from corners. I think it's unreasonable to have that level of professionalism left to the head coach. Not only does it take him away from his primary duties, but I'm not sure he can ever have the level of specialisation required at the top-end of game. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 5,324 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 I’ve been pontificating quite happily about this but is there a set piece coach at Ibrox? 1 hour ago, Rousseau said: I've mentioned Huddersfield this season, who have a superb set-piece coach, because they've scored 20 goals (or something like that) from corners That’s an impressive number. What sort of goals? Intricate decoys and mesmerising reverse passing from the kick or traditional centre half arriving in the box at speed and powering in a header Gough/Jackson style? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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