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9 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Cifuentes is on-loan until January so we are not selling him.

 

Butland, Hagi and Ridvan are the only 3 players we are likely to receive offers for so they should be sold. Unless Goldson and Tav can be tempted to Saudi (Tav very unlikely to move there).

 

We should be looking at getting Sima and Cortes back on-loan but unlikely to get Sima given his contract situation.

I think we can get money for Lammars, Cantwell, Lawrence and Matondo. Not huge offers but if we can get most of our money back or just under that could bring money in. And free up wages. 

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Apart from Diomande, I wouldn't miss a single player.

 

The main focus should be clearing out the likes of Tav, Goldson and Lundstram, as well as bringing in some more effective attackers.

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1 minute ago, Gonzo79 said:

Apart from Diomande, I wouldn't miss a single player.

 

The main focus should be clearing out the likes of Tav, Goldson and Lundstram, as well as bringing in some more effective attackers.

Lundstrams cameo yesterday was bizarre even for him. He was like a drunk chasing a balloon in a bouncy castle.

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HG - Home Grown trained at club for Europe.

NT - Nation Trained for Europe.

 

Butland - A good solid #1 but if we get a decent bid for him (~£10 million+) let go. His kicking is a big liability. Don't @ me.

McCrorie HG - Time to go, replaced by Liam Kelly HG is fine.

McLaughlin - Was never good enough, took a bit of pelters on here when I said he was never good to be our #1 when McGregor retired. Time to go.

K Wright HG - Move on and keep Jay Hogarth HG, Lewis Budinauckas HG or Mason Munn (still 1 year away from HG iirc)as #3

Tavernier - Finished, time to move him on. An expensive coat stand.

Goldson - See Tav 

Souttar NT- Decent squad option, nation trained for Europe, stayed fit for most for this season which was good.

Barisic - Stayed way to long and undone his good reputation after 55.

Balogun - Injury prone a concern but good solid pro. Would release.

Sterling - Controversial take, good player that can cover many positions but another who is just too injury prone. If we get a decent offer I'd sell. £2million+. 

Devine HG - Cheap, decent squad player I'd keep as a 3rd choice.

Davies - A it of a wet wipe centre back on circa 25k p/w, two years left and injury prone. Sell at any cost.

King HG - Needs to be used as a squad player, loaned out or moved on. If he can get first team football at a good level I'd Loan him. Dare i say it seems injury prone 

Yfeko - Not HG so no real point in keeping around as a squad player. I'd loan or sell.

Yilmaz - Another injury prone player, hardy wee defender at times but cant be relied on. Sell for £3 million+

Fraser HG - Release

MacKinnon HG - Release

Jack NT - Sad end for a very talented but injury prone player but he is done, release.

Raskin - Decent player but again injury prone. Sell £2.5 million +

Cifuentes - Ian Black would be an upgrade on this guy, urgent sell at any cost.

Lundstram - World class for 3 months of a season, toilet class the rest of the time. Release.

Cantwell - Very tidy player but just not enough end product. Sell £3 million+

Dowell - Free to a good home, another club, hospital ward or glue factory(joke btw) injury prone 

Diomande - Yeah more like him. been good flashes and not but a good start.

Hagi - Decent player, always produces numbers but too slow  and been here too long, time to move on. Sell £2 million +

Lowry HG - keep as a squad player for the HG quota

Rice NT - A loan for first team football would be good. Manager clearly thinks he is not ready. Not been at Rangers for 3 years yet so only Nation Trained for Europe.

Lammers - Sell £4 million +

Dessers - Sell £4 million +

Danilo - Ideally I'd sell him. No idea why we bought a guy that was a backup striker for Feyenoord who they got on a free 1 year earlier for £6 million. Mental. Misses loads of good chances and injury prone

Sima - Would buy if we could get a decent deal but the fitness is a concern injury prone

Matondo - An expensive China set you only get out 3 times a year and every time you use it something breaks. Sell at any cost injury prone

Lawrence - A good player when he first arrived, injures have finished him, he is done. Final year of deal. Sell any way possible injury prone.

Wright NT -A guy who couldn't get a game for Aberdeen, was never good enough for us, final year of contract. Sell at any cost and injury prone

Roofe - Release, injury prone

Silva - like Cantwell a tidy player that doesn't really have an end product. End of loan return.

Cortes - Looks a good option as an inverted winger on the left. If we can get another loan we di it. Concern over fitness is fair injury prone 

McCausland HG - Good squad player and I believe now qualifies as homegrown for Europe.

Lovelace - Rumour has it he wants to go back to London as he has not settled. Sell for a modest fee (£400k+) and try to get a big chunk(50%) of a sell on. Also injury prone

 

 

By my count we are left with 5 HG players and 1 NT so only need to find another 2 NT players to hit the European quota of 8 of the squad. (Correct me if that's not right).

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2 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

Leeds v Southampton on just now.  We want Leeds to win, as we get a payment if Kamara goes up.  

You put the clappers on that!

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14 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

HG - Home Grown trained at club for Europe.

NT - Nation Trained for Europe.

 

Butland - A good solid #1 but if we get a decent bid for him (~£10 million+) let go. His kicking is a big liability. Don't @ me.

McCrorie HG - Time to go, replaced by Liam Kelly HG is fine.

McLaughlin - Was never good enough, took a bit of pelters on here when I said he was never good to be our #1 when McGregor retired. Time to go.

K Wright HG - Move on and keep Jay Hogarth HG, Lewis Budinauckas HG or Mason Munn (still 1 year away from HG iirc)as #3

Tavernier - Finished, time to move him on. An expensive coat stand.

Goldson - See Tav 

Souttar NT- Decent squad option, nation trained for Europe, stayed fit for most for this season which was good.

Barisic - Stayed way to long and undone his good reputation after 55.

Balogun - Injury prone a concern but good solid pro. Would release.

Sterling - Controversial take, good player that can cover many positions but another who is just too injury prone. If we get a decent offer I'd sell. £2million+. 

Devine HG - Cheap, decent squad player I'd keep as a 3rd choice.

Davies - A it of a wet wipe centre back on circa 25k p/w, two years left and injury prone. Sell at any cost.

King HG - Needs to be used as a squad player, loaned out or moved on. If he can get first team football at a good level I'd Loan him. Dare i say it seems injury prone 

Yfeko - Not HG so no real point in keeping around as a squad player. I'd loan or sell.

Yilmaz - Another injury prone player, hardy wee defender at times but cant be relied on. Sell for £3 million+

Fraser HG - Release

MacKinnon HG - Release

Jack NT - Sad end for a very talented but injury prone player but he is done, release.

Raskin - Decent player but again injury prone. Sell £2.5 million +

Cifuentes - Ian Black would be an upgrade on this guy, urgent sell at any cost.

Lundstram - World class for 3 months of a season, toilet class the rest of the time. Release.

Cantwell - Very tidy player but just not enough end product. Sell £3 million+

Dowell - Free to a good home, another club, hospital ward or glue factory(joke btw) injury prone 

Diomande - Yeah more like him. been good flashes and not but a good start.

Hagi - Decent player, always produces numbers but too slow  and been here too long, time to move on. Sell £2 million +

Lowry HG - keep as a squad player for the HG quota

Rice NT - A loan for first team football would be good. Manager clearly thinks he is not ready. Not been at Rangers for 3 years yet so only Nation Trained for Europe.

Lammers - Sell £4 million +

Dessers - Sell £4 million +

Danilo - Ideally I'd sell him. No idea why we bought a guy that was a backup striker for Feyenoord who they got on a free 1 year earlier for £6 million. Mental. Misses loads of good chances and injury prone

Sima - Would buy if we could get a decent deal but the fitness is a concern injury prone

Matondo - An expensive China set you only get out 3 times a year and every time you use it something breaks. Sell at any cost injury prone

Lawrence - A good player when he first arrived, injures have finished him, he is done. Final year of deal. Sell any way possible injury prone.

Wright NT -A guy who couldn't get a game for Aberdeen, was never good enough for us, final year of contract. Sell at any cost and injury prone

Roofe - Release, injury prone

Silva - like Cantwell a tidy player that doesn't really have an end product. End of loan return.

Cortes - Looks a good option as an inverted winger on the left. If we can get another loan we di it. Concern over fitness is fair injury prone 

McCausland HG - Good squad player and I believe now qualifies as homegrown for Europe.

Lovelace - Rumour has it he wants to go back to London as he has not settled. Sell for a modest fee (£400k+) and try to get a big chunk(50%) of a sell on. Also injury prone

 

 

By my count we are left with 5 HG players and 1 NT so only need to find another 2 NT players to hit the European quota of 8 of the squad. (Correct me if that's not right).

We simply aren't going to turnover that many players in one window. Completely unrealistic. 

 

Cifuentes is on loan until January so we can't sell him.

 

Unfair to say Danilo is injury prone. One facial injury after a collision then another long-term injury. 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, yuddie said:

You put the clappers on that!

Currently 1-0 Saints.

 

Kamara starting for Leeds and Aribo starting for Saints

 

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1 minute ago, CammyF said:

We simply aren't going to turnover that many players in one window. Completely unrealistic. 

 

No and we wont. Its just an opinion on options. Someone might come in for Butland and no one else in which case we are stuck with them all. Its just a high level overview

 

2 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Unfair to say Danilo is injury prone. One facial injury after a collision then another long-term injury.

Injury-prone refers to someone who is often sustaining injuries1. It is used to describe an athlete who is frequently injured2.

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2 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

No and we wont. Its just an opinion on options. Someone might come in for Butland and no one else in which case we are stuck with them all. Its just a high level overview

 

Injury-prone refers to someone who is often sustaining injuries1. It is used to describe an athlete who is frequently injured2.

Two injures, one a facial injury in an accidental clash doesn't make him injury prone. Can happen to anyone. 

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