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If I was Newcastle United I'd be trying to gazump this deal.

It's a little uncouth, but 26th has a certain writing style. That isn't to excuse it. That said, Jim Spence has said far worse about our club and its supporters over the years. Whats good for the goose and all that....

I'd like to think we were better than the likes of Jim Spence!

Absolutely cool, no worries at all.

I should also say that I'm not comfy with the dehumanising language of 'hate filled maggots'. Nasty, infantile stuff which only detracts from the point. Now this isn't my site and if that's cool fair enough. But it's not for me.

For the life of me I could never understand why Jim didn't realise that his relationship with Thomson was identical to the one he chastised others for having with David Murray. I know he's not a cretin so this lack of self awareness is quite mystifying. Whatever the explanation, Jim doesn't come out of this well, but I doubt he'll care. A strange tale.

He made a fool of himself, not for the first time. But whatever the merits or otherwise of independence or unionism I refuse point blank to use Hillsborough to make a point one way or the other and I really hope Gersnet is the same.

Enjoyed the OP, frustration at being served by a media seemingly designed for the lowest common denominator has long bugged many fans (of all clubs, I bet).

Thankfully traditional media is dying on it's backside and any social media which apes the Record or the Herald is likely to disappear up its virtual fundament pdq as well.

I think what the next step has to be is engagement by clubs, players and officials, with the best kind of online platform. This very board, nurtured over 15 years by people plainly dedicated to keeping it well above the level of the papers and broadcasters, would be an ideal candidate. Getting the clubs to agree, though, I think that'd be hard.

They all wants the precious!

Thought Burt looked good in those clips, also McLeod's goal was beautifully taken. At the very least there's some good prospects knocking on the door for the coming couple of years.

Great finish, I wish Clark had improved more than he has!

He'd have needed a run in the side imo Ian. Maybe he'll get that depending on Waghorn's injury but I think there's a decent striker in there. If we go up though, I'd definitely be looking for better.

You will literally have no way support

I dunno about that BG, back in the late 19th century bus companies laid on football omnibuses at special rates to take advantage of the first football boom, I could see the likes of Easyjet organising flights to Stockholm or Amsterdam (even more cheaply than usual) if they could be guaranteed filling the seats. Would likely see some serious policing though.

Hadn't occurred before but I wonder what effect a vote to leave the EU might have on football.

I don't see why she should be excluded from the discussion either when the groups are publicly known to be in talks about a merger along with other fan groups.

Because it will be used by those who wish to sow discord - look, there's those RST people sticking their noses in! Merger? it's a take-over! And it's all the usual suspects, look!!

Cards on the table I don't care - I'm not going to vote, the constant bitching and whining and nose-tapping and look-what-I-know just leaves me feeling like fan ownership would be a nightmare. So I've as little right to be posting as the people I'm having a go at.

For goodness sake - must be a quiet night!

Zappa, you genuinely can't see any reason, given the history of Rangers fans' groups, why RST people shouldn't comment on the RF Elections thread? Chris G has just set out his own position of steadfastly refusing to comment on it - I think that's the best policy.

I didn't think Chris Graham made mention of anything about the RF election but simply rebutted BH's incorrect assertion about Chris attending Board meetings.

 

If I am wrong then I will gladly stand corrected.

Iirc you are quite right. My gripe is that it's in the RF election thread, and his being a big wheel in the RST makes that awkward. But it's only a small matter & I don't think anyone much other than myself will give two hoots.

I think Buster put it better than I could:

I'm concerned about how the individuals involved go about saying and doing things because this has been part of a major problem with the fanbase as a whole for too long.

I think that is a largely unfair statement regarding Chris Graham. He came on here to highlight an inaccuracy posted here by BH. His "fascinating" post was in reference to BH posting a load of rules and guidance which seemed to have little relevance.

 

Surely when someone is posting misinformation about someone else in the online fraternity that person has the right to rebut ? I could be wrong, but I thought that BH first posted the misinformation about Chris attending Board meetings (again, I am going from my limited memory) on this very thread - I would contend Chris Graham therefore had a right to comment in this very same thread.

 

I would argue that BH, as a candidate for the RF Board... shows his candidacy in a very poor light with the stream of allegations he has been making about other candidates - but that very well may be another topic for another day.

Of course people have the right to reply. I'm arguing that as visible figures in another body they might want to be more circumspect when posting in the RF election thread - keep it to the facts and dismiss whatever nonsense has been said about them, and if possible avoid coming across badly. But, as I say, it's a free country!

Nobody on here plays for Rangers, it doesn't stop them having an opinion.

Well, fair enough. Free world, after all.

Bluntly, though, I think that's a piss poor reaction; yourself and Chris dropping in on the RF election thread, finding things 'fascinating' or 'amusing', doesn't show the RST in a very good light.

However, thank you for answering. We'll have to agree to disagree.

No I'm not.

Ah..there goes my question about conflicts of interest!

In that case, though, I don't think it's good form for RST associated people/members to be weighing in on a RF election thread.

plgsarmy, are you in RF as well as the RST?

Did the first part of the chap's statement not make you ponder whether a quiet email might have been better than a 24pt font quote?

Andy, it's an election at a time when I think the general feeling around the club is of 'CHANGE'.

 

We've CHANGED the board.

We've CHANGED the football operation and the management team.

We've even CHANGED the way the team play football.

We want to CHANGE retail and some commercial contracts.

 

Emphatic majorities of members voted to come up with proposals so as to CHANGE another area that has been problematic, fans groups.

 

We currently have an election where there are issues worth commenting on and individuals will use social media to do so although name-calling does lower the tone.

 

1. If two candidates incorporate a vehicle for a fans group within their strategy, campaign on transparency for RF members but choose to keep their intentions secret then they are caught with their pants down....that IMO needs to be highlighted, regardless of who it is.

 

2. If Alan Harris (BH) chooses to go about his campaign in a negative manner by attacking others from the outset then complains at his past being redirected towards him then, sorry but the sympathy vote isn't really on.

 

 

Is it not true to say most would like to see CHANGE from the Machiavellian politics and individuals with a long history of creating selfish carnage ?

 

 

Can people expect CHANGE if they return the 'usual suspects' with the 'usual selfish agendas' ?

Ironically, the one area where's there's no change is people slagging other people off!

But I have to say that I'm not involved in this at all so it's probably easier for me to dismiss it as the usual bitching, so fair points.

Cheer up Steve, it's not as bad as it seems - there's only about 6-8 posters re-iterating their dislike of certain people groups or websites over and over again. Vast majority of contribs on here are either posting dismay or not bothering with the thing at all.

So, chuck transfermarkt out the window - take Kiernan for an example, how much do you think we'd be looking if a club wanted him? Or Wes? Or Tav?

I wasn't really meaning to hold up transfermarkt as accurate, just somewhere to start from.

If you've reached the point where you can find something to bitch about over what was a memorable day for normal Rangers fans I will bid you a good afternoon.

I mean no insult, I just find your posting style tiresome and don't want to engage with it. I'm sure you'll manage to cope!

I think it has to be icon. Total dismissal of Miller as anything more than at best a journeyman pro, as two posts in this thread have done, leave me wondering what they were doing when this game was on!