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Just gone through the last five or six pages of this thread and it's not there so I'll go ahead and post it (apologies if it's old news). From CQN:-

 

This week's MITB

 

 

Our scheduled referee for Sunday, Craig Thomson, who is today reported as being a senior executive at a major contractor of Rangers, has a remarkable record in games involving Celtic and Rangers, one which is well worth analysis.

 

See this linked document for a complete list of Thomson�s games involving either Celtic or Rangers since the start of 2008. In the period, he has refereed Rangers on 14 occasions and Celtic 15 times. In games involving Rangers, his employers paymasters received 22 cards (yellow counting as 1 and red as 2) while their opponents received 38; Rangers receiving 37% of the total.

 

By contrast, Celtic have received 34 cards and their opponents have received only 28; Celtic are on the rough end of 55% of the decisions. So the stats in games when Thomson is referee are:

 

Rangers receive 37% of cards

Celtic receive 55% of cards

Celtic players are booked 44% more often than Rangers players

Rangers opponents are booked 45% more often than Celtic�s opponents

 

Thomson�s average number of cards per game (for all his games) is 3.76. His employer�s paymaster-club receives 41% of his average while Celtic receive 60% his average.

 

In 14 games Thomson has never issued more cards to Rangers than their opponents but punished their opponents harsher on eight occasions.

 

In 15 games he has issued more cards to Celtic than their opponents on five occasions while punishing their opponents more on only four occasions.

 

The record establishes:

 

Thomson is much harsher on Celtic, and on Rangers� opponents, than the converse.

He is less harsh on Rangers, and harsher on Celtic, compared to the rest of the SPL.

He never punishes Rangers more than their opponents. Ever.

 

Conflicts of interest are not allowed in any walk of life, Scottish football is no different. Craig Thomson�s employers have a significant financial interest in Rangers, for this reason alone, he should take no part in their games until any such conflict has ended. As a lawyer, well accustomed to declaring conflicts of interest, he would surely not want to work under the glare of suspicion. We can only wonder if he reported the conflict to the SFA.

 

His record ââ?¬â?? and this is a matter of record, not opinion ââ?¬â?? involving Celtic and Rangers is alarming on its own, his employerââ?¬â?¢s financial relationship with Rangers makes it impossible for him to referee Sundayââ?¬â?¢s game.

 

Thomson has already been involved in controversy this month when the Evening Times reported he told SFA chief executive he was ââ?¬Å?disappointedââ?¬Â Hugh Dallas was sacked for sending a sectarian email.

 

Show this man the door before he wrecks.

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Ok one more from kiddyfiddlerstreet:

 

 

 

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Sporadically engaging with the press this week, the recurring theme seems to be that the Celtic Family are terrified that ‘The Silence’ will be broken on Sunday. 40 years on from the horrific and permanent quieting of 66 fans killed by inadequate stadium design, we are priming ourselves for headlines of shame, disgust and collective guilt with a degree of relish that sits ill with the occasion.

 

An event that was not commemorated in 1981 in any manner by Rangers (indeed the front cover that year had Colin McAdam and Miss Rangers wishing everyone a Merry Xmas) has suddenly evolved into that curious form of inexplicable public grieving, commemoration or celebration that is now frequently used by Rangers to try and deflect from the shame they bring to every arena they occupy. ‘We are the people’ is probably the most acceptable chant they have in a modern era where most of the watches are still set at one and a half minutes past four (16:90 RMT) but it a mantra swamped by anti-Catholic, anti-Irish and anti-Republican bile that, if not ingrained in the collective DNA of the Rangers support, is quickly adopted by each and every one of them through the sweeping peer pressure and superiority complex found crashing down the aisles at every game.

 

It is also an interesting aspect of the psyche of the Rangers support (press included) that individual misdemeanours become a matter of collective responsibility when Celtic are involved. Hence, one supporter disgracefully mimicking a crashing plane into the Twin Towers becomes a matter of shame for the whole support (including letters to the American Ambassador); an individual feud leading to an attempted murder in Amsterdam is defined as serious group violence and one ironic, though distasteful chant at a Seville road sweeper in orange overalls gets Leckified into a severe sectarian incident that could ruin the whole of the UEFA Cup experience in 2003.

 

Contrast this with the stampede from fans and the Scottish press when Rangers fans misbehave. The classic is Manchester where we are asked to suspend belief in our own sensory faculties. Watching television reports on SKY, ITV and the BBC, one almost had to revert to confirmatory subtitles when contrasting national reports with the reportage from STV, BBC Scotland and Real Radio as a mastery of statistics developed nightly. Reporters and DJs rediscover the power of increasing the denominator and decreasing the numerator as a major riot becomes random acts of unplanned public disorder before developing into a full blown series of regrettable minor incidents that, according to Martin Bain

 

"Were caused by supporters that don't normally attach themselves to our support".

 

He also stated that the club was "in general, absolutely delighted with the behaviour of our supporters."

 

That quotes like this led to silence from the Scottish Press speaks volumes.

 

So, to paraphrase David Byrne, ‘how did we get here?’ How did the perception of Celtic fans as award-winning supporters welcomed everywhere they outside of Scotland become that to the accused and often convicted before the crime has been committed? In alignment with Jock Stein’s view of the BBC and ‘Blue Peter’ Thompson, I think that 2003 and the UEFA award caused a collective pain in our press not felt since 1967. In conjunction with this, Manchester 2008 also made Rangers and their fans more media savvy in a dangerous way.

 

While attempting to diminish the indefensible, a realization became stark within the Rangers community that to triumph through improvement would be so counter to their culture and ideals that it was impossible and this left only one other option. When you cannot defend, you attack.

 

How ironic, that a team who refuse to attack in case of embarrassment in Europe, become sophisticated in this strategy in public relations. So, Ibrox is transformed from a bile-infested sectarian hellhole to an outdoor sporting Albert Hall where the last night of the football proms happens fortnightly as a celebration of Britishness. Deep, sectarian anti-Catholicism becomes a means to publicize ‘anti-child abuse’ credentials, despite Catholic clerical child abuse being almost absent from Scotland. The Ulster angle of anti-Irish racism transforms itself into support for ‘our boys’ in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for freedom. And finally, the poppy transforms from a symbol of communal remembrance into the celebratory mark of assent towards the illegal non-judicial murder of innocent Catholics in Northern Ireland. The most important point in all of this is that dissent is not allowed. Not within the Rangers support nor out with it. Anyone not complying through belief or conscience is marginalized, ridiculed and accused. Alternative perceptions developed through experience or study are demeaned and the method of using a mirror to your soul to judge your morality is discarded for the totalitarian approach of attacking minorities.

 

So, I hope ‘The Silence’ is destroyed on Sunday.

 

Just after the game would be fine so that there is no blurring of the line.

 

I look forward to the Scottish Press coming out after the game and destroying their shameful silence by commenting of the lack of humanity of a support who celebrate child abuse and immorally attack Scotland’s greatest ever sporting legacy.

 

I look forward to the silence being broken through the condemnation of a support who cannot shed their anti-Catholic shackles after 137 years.

 

I look forward to the shattering of the silence over the overtly communal racism of a support who laugh at 1 million dead through British acts but relish the hope that at least one person will break ‘The Silence’ so that YouTube can be flooded with footage of some poor soul who stubbed his toe on the stairwell coming into the stadium.

The strange thing is, I fully expect ‘The Silence’ will not be broken on Sunday.

Edited December 31, 2010 by ian1964

[ian1964 10,409]

They really are a disgusting,low life, rhats,BHEASTS shower of SCUM

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LMFAO. You couldn't make it up. They've already started to put their pressure on the ref again?? Unbelievable! Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel: These cretins are the mould at the bottom of the barrel.

 

Loved this line (note the word I put in bold)-

 

Deep, sectarian anti-Catholicism becomes a means to publicize ââ?¬Ë?anti-child abuseââ?¬â?¢ credentials, despite Catholic clerical child abuse being almost absent from Scotland.

 

'Almost' isn't good enough you fucking lowlifes.

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A lot of their fans seem to want out of Scottish football altogether and I hope their wish comes true. The sooner they piss off to a different league, the better. Not gonna happen I know, but it's a nice thought all the same.

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Didn't read the second quote. Too long.

 

Re: the first one, it does indeed show that Celtic have received more bookings while we have received less on average. It does not, as the author states, prove that Thompson is harsher on them or gives them the rough end of the decisions. Merely demonstrating they have had cards does not show bias. It demonstrated their players have commited infractions the referee deemed worthy of punishment. They would need to demonstrate that the ref in question had consistently made wrong calls against them and their previous shows that the can in know way be impartial in doing this. They note only decisions that go against them, whether or not they were a correct call and never any that go in their favour.

 

The point is, though, that merely receiving cards does not demonstrate anything other than that they probably deserved them.

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How paranoid they are...who would sit down and study a referee's bookings in in all his games?

 

It must have taken a large chunk of his time to work all that out? Bet you he's done it many times before with other Old Firm refs in the past and come up with zilch.

 

Here's another stat that aint complicated Rangers 53 Septic 42....not sure what the percentage is, cos' I couldn't give a f**k!