Bruno55

There's not that much wrong with the squad we have atm imo, get young Hardie in now, he's lethal and if you're good enough you're old enough. Big DJ scored the winner in a cup final at 16 and look what he went on to achieve with us.

How long have I been saying that bear?

He looked like he could not be arsed!

Well he is an ex-ranger...

Liam Kelly was the difference with three great saves. Our fourth goals a belted but the defending for their two goals wasn't good enough...

You mean Jordan Thompson ? Surely only a matter of time before he gets a chance. When at MP last month I was told how we ended up getting him..... his mother actually called the Club asking if the Club would consider taking him on trial given he had been released by Man Utd. The Club called Brian McLair and asked if it was worth bringing him in for a trial and McLair apparently said "nope, don't bring him in on trial - just sign him. You wont regret it". The Club still looked extensively at footage of the boy and still brought him in - but I am told they are very impressed with the lad. You don't get to be the Man Utd U18 captain without having certain qualities.

 

I like Zelalem, I have already admitted that. But I am by no means averse to giving someone else a shot. If we are lacking creativity and that is what Zelalem is being expected to do then he isn't doing his job. Which is why I suspect that Warburton isn't expecting him to be the creative one of the midfield 3, otherwise he would probably have been dropped by now because his stats show no goals and few assists. I think Warburton sees him as the player to retain and recycle possession. Which is fair enough. But we then need to find the creativity behind the strikers.

 

Playing 4-3-3 looks like an attacking formation - but it isn't that attacking if the two players either side of the striker are playing like wingers (therefore too far away from the main striker) and even moreso if your striker isn't someone that scores a lot of headers, as they would normally be putting the ball in the box.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing us go with a 4-1-3-2 formation even. Have Zelalem as the pivot at the base of the midfield, allow Halliday to play further forward alongside Holt and McKay, and have Waghorn up front with Hardie. Something like :

 

 

This formation allows Zelalem to be the one to take the ball from the back 4 and get it moving. He would be more than adequate doing so. Not necessarily a holding midfielder, but playing slightly deeper than the midfield would normally play. This also allows the midfield 3 (Holt, Halliday and McKay) to play further up the pitch (slightly higher up the pitch than a normal midfield would play in a 4-4-2), and it also gives Waghorn a true partner up front.

 

When at Ibrox for the Queens game when we won with the late goal (you see Mack.... when back home I do actually attend games.....) it was evident to me that the wide players really were playing wide which left Waghorn effectively as a lone striker. They either need to be playing narrower to support him or he needs a partner to help him.

 

I think we would be more creative with the above formation with 3 players in midfield who have an eye for a pass.... in Holt's case a very deft eye for making a run beyond his strikers at the right time, in McKay's case someone who can be direct and take on players and in Halliday's case someone who can make an incisive through ball.

 

Having Hardie up beside Waghorn would give Waghorn support but would also give those 3 midfielders something more to aim at.

 

Worth a try at least ????

Im putting your name forward for the magic hats no3 Craig....

If we keep our cool we will win the school , what we need is our own shoot to kill policy lets see our players have a buzz at goal a little more often and maybe a poacher would be handy ,but I think we will all agree its a dam sight better than what we had to endure last season ,MON THE GERS

It sure is compo...

Agreed especially on the respective positions of Vuckic and Law. I think most would also agree that Law is at his best in a more advanced role.

 

But also agree that Walsh is certainly worth a turn and if CMF is his preferred position and if the Manager is about giving youth a chance as we keep getting told then I would rather he gave OUR youth a chance than helping out Arsenal and Spurs. There is also young Jason Thomson and the boy Roberts on the left wing sorry LMF both of whom have looked good in the short clips I have seen.

Young Walsh is a right midfielder but some genius stuck him on the wing. I've watched Jordan Thompson playing for the reserves and he always involved in the game and young Roberts is so fast these youngsters will never let us down..

I have no fears for the future Rev as I keep saying it's only the beginning bro, but rangers fans want success yesterday and you and I are no different..

Sorry..Rab. not rev

Let's hope his replacement can get the number of goals the much-maligned Law got last season.

We might need it too. We've only got one forward who will get a decent amount of goals as things currently stand

I have no fears for the future Rev as I keep saying it's only the beginning bro, but rangers fans want success yesterday and you and I are no different..

Zelalem is quickly becoming a liability. He seems far too lightweight for the Scottish game.

 

The amount of abuse he took yesterday was a bit uncalled for mind you.

Disgraceful if this is true...

Unlike Craig I watch game from stands and this season I think Law when playing has showed a better attitude under Warburton I have not been his greatest admirer but feel that he is stronger than Zalelem and should be given a chance.Re Walsh I would start him before Oduwa as his showboating is not required in the team.

Your right Mack the difference this season is law has someone to take his place as last season he was guaranteed a start...

Brilliant lololol

That's a young rangers team well done lads...

I would only add that I'd have Shiels absolutely nowhere near our starting 11.

Personally id like to see a fit Templeton fight for his ibrox career. It baffles me that temps came to us a cracking wee player..

For what it's worth I'll agree with a couple of guys here; Law is a scoring midfielder. But only if he turns up. Imo he has the ability. However he seems to have some sort of mindblock and goes hiding far too often.

The same applies to shiels..

Id like to see Kiernan or ball do a lot more shouting and geeing the midfielders up..

Totally agree Bearman. MW needs to sign someone who can drive the team on and just be an angry man. We're seriously lacking that kind of player.

We seriously lack killing these teams off when we're one up and if we did we wouldn't be having this discussion...

You mean Warburton should be asking?

Why should we be asking? It's the managers job to select and give extension's you obviously don't agree with him but that's your opinion like I've got mine..

I thought Zappa always did it? Will,add it now above.

Zappa's awol lol

Is there a prediction thread for tomorrow's game?

I thought you started it bear...

Where does elf say anything chilled? So I take it the boy Marshall is signed then?

It's a fans forum and fans are entitled to their opinion on anything and everything,however at the end of the day we are only fans!,W&W are our management team and they are doing very well in such a short space of time,better than I expected when they joined!,they have put together an exciting new team and have restored our enthusiasm for football again. I'm surprised that some fans are questioning their decisions on players!,they didn't give Miller a new contract for nothing is the way I see it,and with all due respect I will bow to their knowledge before any fan on any forum!.

Correct ian, as you say its all about opinions, no falling out but we have fans who dont have faith in Warburton's decisions..

i'll pass thanks!!

Why is the magic hat giving Miller who is rubbish an extension to his contest? Lol

. . . and another question we should be asking is will his sharpness get better, or worse, as time passes.

You mean Warburton should be asking?

I agree with most of that BH, apart from the bit where you believe Miller has positional sense. Laugh out loud moment for me there. Think back (or watch for yourself next time) to how many times he gets caught offside, or doesn't make a run into space when a ream-mate has the ball and is looking towards him. His positional sense is like the rest of his game, rubbish!

 

I agree that if the younger players cant get all they need from a gentleman and experienced pro like Davie Weir, then they are not asking the right questions. Miller's role, like McCulloch before him, is purely a waste of money and a shirt that could be used for developing a young prospect.

That's another one who hasn't got faith in the magic hat, brahim....

He's just turned 19, plays like lafferty and will be no more than a decent footballer? Warbs should get shot of him lol. Hardie needs games not five mins here and ten mins there full games we won't know till he gets more starts. He won't get experience playing in the reserves...