Soulsonic5791

Has your chicken reached its chlorine saturation point Bill?

Are we surmising that this is the latest debt equity swap?

I wonder what Blue Pitch, Putney, ATP and Norne Anstalt have to say about all this...

9 minutes ago, stewarty said:

Let me guess, at 20p each?

 

Edit: it is at 20p each.  Thats the fourth allotment of shares in 2 months

But they are really worth 50p ?

4 minutes ago, forlanssister said:

We just issued 13,750,000 new shares.

Any idea to whom?

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Call me naïve, call me cynical, but does anyone really believe that investors (Rangers inclined or otherwise) would willingly welcome a shareholder that can block special resolutions based on emotional sentiment?

Were/are C1872 liquid enough to have been approached in advance of the previous two share issues? Assuming that they weren’t in a suitable position to explain away a lack of offer/take up, does the Club and its board approve of the shareholding being increased as opposed to it having been diluted as has been the case as a result of the aforementioned rounds?

Will any of this become clearer following the next RIFC AGM?

Will fan ‘participation’ ever truly work?

Would fan ‘majority shareholder’ (a la Hamburg) work either?

For me, I reckon that the coverage this has been afforded hasn’t been all that helpful, and that isn’t meant as a slight on Stevie’s pod per se. I can see why Dave King would want to capitalise on the current feel good factor, but couldn’t this have been promoted to C1872 membership as an opportunity to increase the share block and pay back Dave as a thank you for playing his part in rescuing the Club? Whether this is implied or not misses the point. If it was the stated aim from the outset, a lot of the questions raised regarding  the deal and some of the accompanying innuendo could have been minimised if not largely avoided.

Governance appears to have been a delicate issue for C1872 since its inception and this no doubt partly informs why there are only circa 7000 members. King has said that he is willing to wait for an extended period to allow C1872 to raise the funds. I would imagine that he will be waiting a long time if C1872 continues to be run in the current manner.

5 minutes ago, buster. said:

Is this the first time we have reached 11 points in a European group stage ?

I remember under PLG, we got 10 pts from a 4 game group.

 

12 or 14pts would be in keeping with nearly everything else that has gone on this season. It's not normal but I like it !!! 

 

 

 

That’s the benefit of having people in the dugout who have a real clue. Previous managers have shown undoubted nous in Europe but the current guys have a slight edge in that they have played and won at the highest level.

But I digress, we could’ve come unstuck tonight. The really pleasing aspect is that we didn’t panic, we upped our levels when required and should have ran out more comfortable winners. Without putting the cart before the horse, I’d love to see what our recruitment could look like with access to greater resources. Along side an insatiable desire for success by way of silverware, I’d imagine that the carrot of being able to shop for better players must be a tremendous incentive for Stevie and his staff.

Well done to everyone concerned. The only thing to bring a wider smile to my coupon this evening is the sight of smoke coming off Colonel Blink’s eyelid as he was recounting the abysmal defending of the Charlies backline, just as Super struggled to keep a straight face.

Luvleh.

Forza Gers

Having read, listened, postulated, deliberated et al on the subject, I still can’t get past a few things which are inescapable for me.

They are:

Why does Club1872 continue to look like such an opaque vehicle so long after its inception, (especially to the lay person/ordinary punter)? Will this change in the future, and if so, whose purposes does that change serve?

The Club requires new investment to facilitate ongoing costs. At the quoted figures, how likely is this to be met by the current Club1872 membership and the prospect of increasing their existing subscription rates?

How feasible is the perceived reliance on Club1872 to provide further funds on an ad hoc basis to prevent dilution of its shareholding, never mind facilitating additional cash flow shortfalls?

How realistic is the prospect of future short to medium term sustainability being met without the need for a public offering? 

Have our current custodians reached the limit of their exposure to risk? If not, how close are they to reaching their limit?

There are so many other aspects of the potential impacts that this apparent crossroads in the way that the Club is governed which could be raised. They are possibly too numerous to list or even bring to mind here, but one thing is certain, nothing in this scenario is straightforward.

As always, it will boil down to who we do and don’t trust. The battle for hearts and minds continues ad infinitum.

Celtic give themselves permission to move a game without the prior consent of their opponents. Who’d a thunk it? Stop the world, I want to get off.

Has Chris not refreshed the battery bay in the Seville (or is it Saville?) Calculator and used the PQ podcast to peddle the line that it was merely  ‘50’ fans that were in the car park. Is he inferring that the other 250 odd (clearly pictured) were members of a h-u-n sleeper cell? Can we expect Juan Ghuy to make his customary appearance by the weekend?

Peter’s puppets will swing into heightened action from this evening no matter the result for Lurgan Flopp’s charges. Put the kettle on for it.

13 hours ago, 26th of foot said:

The answer to the bottom line question, was as predicted above, Billy Dodds.

 

I am intrigued by Creepy Connie attending Ibrox :

 

Who was she working for?

 

Further, two-three months past, she was credited with aiding ra Sellik squad in their psychological battles, "strengthening their inner buzz". Why was she not in Prague?

I’d hazard a guess at her doing a spot of freelancing. Is she a staffer at PQ? I would have thought so but can’t say with any degree of certainty. When I heard her being announced by Emma Dodds, I thought it strange. Presumably she was drafted in to assume Emma’s questioner duties in light of Dodds presenting? How that dovetails with her PQ Ts & Cs - who knows?

Like Gonzo79, I’d prefer her beat to be an Ibrox free one. I have heard on the ex-Bellshill grapevine that the whole McLaughlin family are some of the bitterest people that God ever put air into.

56 minutes ago, 26th of foot said:

'One Game at a Time' - a hackneyed old phrase or a necessary strategy going forward?

 

Starting this Thursday, the 26th November we play Benfica at Ibrox in a Europa Group stage match. Ending on the 30th December, we play St Mirren away in our last Premiership game of the year. It's a total of eleven games in thirty-four days. Do the arithmetic, that's one match every three days. We have a large squad, we are playing extremely well, and our mental approach appears to have improved. This run of matches will be a real test, knocks, strains, and injuries will kick in. Suspensions, refereeing decisions, and the fickle finger of Covid all await.

 

Let's break it down, six league games, two at home, four away. Three Europa Cup fixtures, two at home, one away. Hopefully, two League Cup ties, one definitely away on plastic, and another(probably Livi' away), a quarter-final midweek on the 15-17th December. The six League matches are : Ross County and Dundee United, both away, followed by Motherwell at home. St Johnstone and St Mirren are also away, with Hibs at home squeezed in between. After Benfica, we have Standard Liege at Ibrox finishing against Poznan in Poland a week later.

 

Inevitably, Rangers supporters will want to compare and contrast with our separated brethren's fixture list. I think we must desist. We must set out our plan, and adhere to it. All members of the squad should be informed they have a significant part to play. This includes players who are receiving little or no game time recently. I don't think prioritising competitions will work either. Gerrard must win silverware, we must progress in the League Cup. Our finances demand further advances in Europe. The League speaks for itself.

 

I am tempted to ensure Europa Cup qualification occurs as soon as possible, certainly by the end of the next two games, both at Ibrox. The League Cup tie at Grangemouth on plastic should see a few changes. Falkirk are a club two divisions below and we have a record of serious injury on such a surface. On current form, all the league fixtures are comfortably winnable, but the merest hint of a wrong attitude, two or three of them could degenerate into battles. Gerrard and McAllister's ability to micro-manage will be tested.

 

The games are coming thick and fast, the reward at the conclusion will be a visit to Ibrox from ra green'n'grey hooped horrors on the 2nd January. Will Neil still be manager? Let's take it one game at a time.

I concur 26th. The next six league games will have a bearing on our league season. If we are in a position to heap serious pressure on the yahoos come 2/1/21 with a victory it’ll be thanks to being relentless in December.

15 hours ago, BlackSocksRedTops said:

Either way they are in trouble. Good luck finding a manager mid season who will come in and hit the ground running. 

And even better luck finding a manager willing to have to work with the recent signings on decent contracts. Worse still, no realistic prospect of a sizeable transfer kitty to spend in January (or next summer for that matter) because of enforced belt tightening thanks to looming civil action compensation liabilities, covid cash flow issues and a need to sell assets in the short to medium term in order to balance the books.

With these strictures meaning it’s likely to adversely impact their ability to entice anyone really decent, no carrot of European football after Christmas and the pressure of delivering 9.5, it’s no wonder Peter is taking the temperature of their support over the possible return of Chesney via Keef Klaxon in the Rhetard’s weekly Monday puff piece.

Lovely stuff.

Oh aye, and regarding the aforementioned luck, I really wish them as much luck as I do for ‘The Donald’ in overturning - or is it overthrowing - the democratic will of the American people.

28 minutes ago, Bill said:

We're playing the best football since the Advocaat years.

Difficult to argue with that assertion Bill. I said the same thing to my old man on the phone an hour and a half ago.

long, long may it continue.

4 minutes ago, ian1964 said:

 

Those seventeen goals are looking particularly healthy Ian, regardless of their games in hand.

Excellent performance from the lads, with Tav and Scotty being particularly impressive.

If we can maintain our form, stay injury and covid free for the next five or six games say, we should really give ourselves an excellent chance of success.

Benfica will potentially be tricky. However, performances thus far suggest that we will be well prepared and today’s result will mean that confidence shouldn’t be an issue. If we can avoid defeat and hopefully win, the momentum builds further.

Onwards and upwards. Relentless.

Forza Gers.

Just checked in after a few weeks hiatus, so apologies in advance for the randomness of the post.

At risk of a rap on the virtual knuckles by Frankie, surely the thread title should possibly read “Atlantic League torpaedoed”?

We looked every inch a well coached outfit this evening. Hats off to Stevie, his staff and the players. More money in the bank, some good games to look forward to and further enhancement of a solid European reputation after the nadir of Progres.

Well done to everyone involved. Onward and upward, starting on Sunday.

Listening to this, never mind paying for it, must surely constitute the auditory equivalent of hammering a red hot six inch nail down one’s jap’s eye.

Surely the best thread on any Rangers forum. Peter’s cheese ?

Utterly preposterous to suggest that Gerrard should go.

Constructive criticism of his management may well be valid, but the inescapable fact is that he needs better players to deliver instant success. Don’t forget that the attacking element of the team is young with Morelos, Kent, Aribo and Hagi all being no older than 23. All of these players are very good players with tremendous potential, but none are the finished article and will be subject to inconsistent performances when searching for their best form.

As frustrating as this is for fans to watch, especially when they collectively don’t hit the heights, it is something that we are going to have to reluctantly accept for the time being.

Braved the cold at Firhill and enjoyed much of Atletico’s play with Riquelme easily the best player on the pitch. Having missed a sitter to take the lead, our young lads didn’t cover themselves in glory with their defending at the first goal and whilst having a good deal of the ball lacked a cutting edge going forward. Nathan Paterson was taken to the cleaners for the second goal and from then on it was an uphill task as Atletico sat back and defended until some tiredness contributed to Rangers shipping another two goals.

Undoubtedly, they missed the likes of Lewis Mayo but I couldn’t help but feel that there was a lot of unnecessary touches on the ball coupled with the fact that a combination of Mebude being largely isolated and some excellent and uncompromising defending from the visitors meant that Rangers were pretty toothless.

It would’ve been interesting to see if a booking for persistent fouling by their number four would have had an impact on Rangers attacking prowess.

Nevertheless, a steep learning curve for Murty’s young charges.