wabashcannonball

Well, considering we have only ever reached four European finals in our history it wouldn't be much worse than the rest. You then have to account for the Euro games under Smith, which is more due to CL participation, the ratio of games to wins takes that down again.

 

If you want the this debate to continue why don't you try and back up your claims. You're making big claims about Walter's record in Europe being poor and spending too much on playing staff. Back up or back out.

 

Zappa has already done one bit for you, which backs up my own search. Just Euro games against past Rangers managers' and to help evaluate him, I'd say against septic managers too.

 

Probably a waste of post but maybe you'll back up your claims.

Have you ever heard of Scot Symon, have you ever heard of Willie Waddel and I don't need anyone to back anything up, Mr Symon and Mr Waddell will do that nicely. :colbert:

No, I'll base my opinions on titles won. Obviously you know feck all but like to believe you do know something.

 

Once you've done your research, remember, as I previously mentioned in this thread, to consider wages that we're now paying (less money = poorer quality), size of the squad, what calibre of players have left the club.

 

You'll probably claim to know that as well.

 

Would that be european titles won.....in amongst the big boys ??????...........:colbert:

That means you don't know.

What it means is that you don't know...have a nice day...do some research...google is your friend, you can research WS's euro stats at the same time, sort of destroy both your waffles at the same time...

Rather than accusing others of waffling and 'peddling pish', how about you tell us what you think you know about Walter's total (NET) spendings. He's been here exactly 4 seasons, so go on Wabash, you tell us what his NET spend is since returning four years ago.

Try a bit of research, what am I yer fekin secretary...

You seem to fail to grasp the difference in beating the Russians at their own game and actually just crossing our fucking halfway line and trying to get a goal

 

We may as well not have turned up

Thank fuk Willie Waddell and Scot Symon liked to have a go.

Have you ever heard of an oxymoron? Do you ever make sense?

 

I think we should just leave the hens to enjoy their pecking party... The anger is strong in them.

Most people would have taken it as a sensible observation, a bit like getting into a taxi and refusing to tell the driver your destination.......much like getting to a euro final and refusing to compete, simples.....failing to deliver, bottling it call it what you like, me I just call it piss poor management (like most of Smith's euro record) simples, even for you..:boogie:

Really? So this thread isn't one large over reaction? This thread doesn't suggest a crisis is on our hands?

 

I see you base your opinions on one game, lol! I'll base mine over a longer period of time where I will have the opportunity to reflect on the good and bad. If that's peddling pish, then your honour I am guilty!

 

Going back over this thread, let's look at one of your posts': Mr Smith has continually been unable to come up with the goods when it matters, 10 in a row euro cup final, euro CL games, 9 out of 10 posters on here would have won what Smith has, with the money he has had at his disposal, C'est la vie

 

Tell me how he has never came up with the goods when it mattered? I have the feeling you might go down the road of riddles or cheap insults, though.

 

Enjoy cherry picking my post.

I wouldn't insult you, you would probably only enjoy it. As previously stated you waffle and waffle, now if you really need me to tell you when Smith bottled it.....you really do need a reality check Stevie.

My reality check is that we are the champions two years running, the league's still in our hands, we still have European football to play for and two domestic cups.

 

Crisis, eh!

Crisis ? what crisis ? I see your inability to refute any valid of criticism of WS leads to you waffling and inventing slants on others opinions, I know Smiths �£total in his latest spell, obviously you don't or you wouldn't peddle pish.

This thread might simply be the biggest knee jerk reaction I've ever seen on any message board.

 

The man has flaws like we all do, however, his success since coming back has been nothing short of phenomenal given he's had next to nothing to spend for such a long period of time.

 

He's leaving in May, the league's still in our hands, it'd be madness to want him to go because we were beaten by septic.

Who said he should go ? some are not as easily led as others, some can think for themselves, some don't swally the pish about Smith having had no money this time around (count up �£net and �£gross this time around, there again the figures won't suit the no money pish peddlers), finally WS is pretty average in the with the big boys, perhaps even a few rungs below that.........like I said big club and big fish in this very small shallow pond known as Scottish fitba, get a reality check.

yeah they always say that after the post, ok i believe you meant to wind us all up of course

 

again no one else could have done what smith has done since he's been back but it just isn't enough for some fans, and you say i'm the stevie wonder category, are you even in the real world

Wind up, yer avin a fekin giraffe, thems facts dude, piss poor in europe, bottled a final, and loadsa dosh to win a two horse race, a race in which the other runner usually only had three legs and one of them was broke.....

Is there a category for the worst post of the season or even the decade ...............

You must be in the Stevie Wonder category, often and easily led.....

PS...don't worry I wont post WS's euro record, it would only excite you. ...........And WS thought we played well yesterday, and there's more, but I lost the will to live after I read that pish.....

Mr Smith has continually been unable to come up with the goods when it matters, 10 in a row euro cup final, euro CL games, 9 out of 10 posters on here would have won what Smith has, with the money he has had at his disposal, C'est la vie

We have had every excuse under the sun for Sunday's drubbing, time to look for answers rather than excuses. The question is are there any answers, viable ones..........or is it now time for the board and AJ to make a statement of future intent and direction, that is of course if they know....or if Minty has yet informed them of his next "manoeuvre" .

good to see you are back , you have been causing some amount of stushies over on �£�£ lately , It made me miss you all the more

We may have had minor differences, but I always respect your opinions as being totally honest. I despair at the naivety of some of our fans, especially in all the regurgitated takeover nonsense. Some people seem more relaxed with the musings and utter bollox of failed hacks, rather than accept the word of our chairman, try as I may, I am beginning to lose the will to give the windblown, the forlorn and the downright stupid, the little snippets fed my way, was it ever any different. You know my views on Smith, today gave me no reason to change them......and a Happy New Year to you rbr, and one and all.

More nonsense from the Riddler eh ?

 

Football has a past, present and a future.

I would explain the finer nuances of the expression, but I would only be wasting my time.

Mr Smith is a cheque book manager, you can't buy tactical astuteness unfortunately, I hope Mr McCoist was not in agreement with playing in high balls, when the ball on the deck was the answer.

You can change anything if you have enough money the past included, football has more than enough money, but chooses to spend it on financing suicide.

All football matters are historical.

Fenian is Queen's English, why should we deny our own language to suit some arseholes.

It should be renamed the great Rangers fakeover mk2.

There is no bar to the club giving a clear and concise statement/view on matters, as there has been no bid they would be breaking no legislation.

The UEFA Directive is available on the Assembly's website.

 

http://www.thebluenose.co.uk/assembly/uefa-directive/

 

Of course it is up to the individual supporter whether or not to take this as genuine. I do believe it is but I also don't believe UEFA would enforce it.

That may be a lot of things Frankie, one thing it isn't is a directive from Uefa, since Minty allegedly had an official directive in his waving hand, why doesn't he publish it complete with UEFA official heading and signatory. It is like when we were told by the RSA after the hibs game, that Ellis had proved funding to Minty and AJ, only he hadn't.

Before condemning ourselves or anyone else, why don't we have the club publish in full the decision from UEFA, the decision in full as to what we are allegedly banned from singing, having said that I don't think the club would publish anything, because nothing exists banning us from singing anything.

If it did they wouldn't keep giving out warnings of their own, they would have published the mysterious UEFA ruling long ago.

Maybe not to that bampot, but yes they do.

****s got boardroom oot did they not, liverpool supporters have made a wee impact now and again, and their is still the ongoing manure saga.

And I think the supporters of that shite team barca have a wee say in thngs, do they not ma man.

And that is it ? the sum total of fans changing the face of football, and for what it is worth Barca fans have as much say as you or I after we vote, none. Scottish fitba is about to be changed on the 20th of Dec, did they ask you or me or anyone else....what we wanted, not to hard to answer that one.

Football supporters never make or made a difference to anything, Ken Bates once famously called us a necessary evil, and that in his more lucid days. I believe most if not all football high heid yins secretly agree with him.