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CHARLES GREEN has confirmed that Rangers will apply to join the Scottish Football League after today's rejection by the SPL. The Rangers Chief Executive says he is deeply disappointed at the 'no' vote today at Hampden and false hope that there was a chance of success. He said: "We are deeply disappointed that our application to rejoin the SPL has been rejected overwhelmingly by the member clubs. "This time last week, all of us at Rangers were resigned to the fact that we would not be admitted, due mainly to the public declarations of clubs indicating they would not support our application. "At the weekend, we were approached by representatives from the SPL suggesting our application still stood a chance of success and we should discuss this further with clubs. This we did in good faith but with the knowledge of the hurdles that lay ahead of us. "We had asked the SPL whether it would be more appropriate for us to withdraw our application but were advised against this. "We made a presentation to the SPL clubs this morning, detailing our proposals in support of our application and this included what we believed to be penalties and sanctions that would have dealt fairly with the difficulties caused by events at Rangers prior to our acquisition of the Club on June 14. "Sadly this was rejected by the other clubs and we regret that our Club and our supporters were given false hope by this initiative. "We will now proceed as we had planned from late June to apply for membership of the SFL. "It is entirely a matter for them whether our application will be accepted or rejected and we will make no representation to any member club prior to that application being considered. We also recognise that the SPL has been placed in a difficult position because of the way events have unfolded. "If our application were to be accepted, Rangers will play in whichever division the SFL sees fit and we will move forward from there. "The Club hopes that the supporters, who have been absolutely tremendous since the Club went into administration on February 14, will continue to support the Club and make Rangers a success once again." http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/football-news/article/2832267

The Gers Forum‏@GersForum No SPL football next season, 10 votes against and 1 abstention.

SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster speaks to BBC Scotland's Chris McLaughlin ahead of a meeting of member clubs at Hampden and admits that a vote concerning the future of Rangers may be delayed http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/18710456?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter 7 min video Doncaster: "Why should 41 innocent clubs pay the price for the misdeeds of 1, so the 4th tier (Division 3) is not a viable option."

Worried Scottish Premier League chairmen are believed to be holding a late night conference call as they try to resolve the crisis over Rangers. It came the night before a vote of the 12 clubs to decide on the application from Charles Green's newco Rangers to be admitted to the top flight. Motherwell have become the eighth club likely to vote against. But the vote comes amid warnings about the future of Scottish football should Rangers drop to Division Three. Scottish Football League clubs had gathered to consider that option and the alternative of placing the Ibrox club in Division One. At least 10 SFL clubs had confirmed their opposition to the First Division plan before the meeting. However, addressed by Scottish Football Association chief executive Stewart Regan and SPL counterpart Neil Doncaster, they were given more detail on claims made in a controversial document outlining the commercial impact of the options. It includes an assertion that £16m would be lost to the Scottish game if Rangers are relaunched in the Third Division. No vote had been planned at the SFL meeting and the 30 clubs agreed to consult with their own boards and fans then meet again on 12 July, when a vote is expected. BBC Scotland understands that some involved in the conference call - between the 11 SPL clubs, excluding Rangers - are pressing for their own vote to be postponed to allow the lower league clubs to make a decision on Rangers' fate. SFL club representatives met at Hampden to discuss the Rangers crisis A number of clubs have listened to the views of their fans, who want Rangers refused entry to the SPL, but fear a resulting loss of television and other revenue would cripple their own finances. Motherwell became the latest to signal their intentions following the result of a survey among members of the Well Society and shareholders. With the club's board having promised that the result would help determine their stance, 82% of the 661 taking part rejected the proposal to allow the newco Rangers into the SPL. St Johnstone issued a statement reaffirming their intention to vote against the application from Green's consortium. "There has been a good deal of press speculation in advance of tomorrow's meeting of the SPL clubs with regard to how each club will cast their vote in relation to the newco Rangers application to join the SPL," it said. "For avoidance of doubt, the club's position remains as per the statement which was issued on Monday 25 June confirming that the club will not be supporting the application." Aberdeen, Dundee United, Hearts, Hibernian, Inverness Caledonian Thistle and St Mirren have also all previously stated that they will vote against, with Celtic, Kilmarnock and Ross County yet to make a firm commitment. Meanwhile, the Rangers Fans Fighting Fun has claimed that a poll of supporters showed that 75% of the club's fans would rather play in Division Three than accept a compromise deal for a place in Division One. Only 3% wanted to accept a place in Division One if it meant that sanctions were inherited as a result of the actions of the old Rangers, which is heading for liquidation. Even a place in Division One without sanctions only received the support of 20%. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18699838?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Regan makes statement - claims comment was distorted and taken out of context -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stewart Regan, Scottish FA Chief Executive: “The Scottish FA was invited to participate in today’s meeting of the Scottish Football League’s members at Hampden Park. “During a positive and productive meeting, a number of detailed scenarios were discussed regarding the future status of Rangers FC as a newco club. “Unfortunately, a comment relating to one potential scenario - Rangers FC’s readmission to the SPL - was distorted, taken out of context and leaked to the media by a member. “For the avoidance of doubt, any decision regarding the future status of Rangers FC requires not only the transfer of the SPL share but the transfer of the Scottish FA’s membership. The Scottish FA Board will approve this only when all relevant information has been provided and the directors are satisfied that the solution presented is in the best interests of Scottish football.”

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https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2lWRGos8l8zS3EwdU4yRXNJRkU/edit?pli=1 SFA Membership Requirement document sent to Rangers highlighting what Rangers must sign up to SFA Membership Requirements.pdf

Livi Chairman confirms Regan stated SFA would block RFC's entry to SPL but SFA were then unavailable for comment. So much for transparency Retweeted by John DC Gow

Only posted because pdee knows bomber But yes know what you mean

The Board of Motherwell FC asked members of the â??Well Society and shareholders to vote on the question of whether Motherwell should vote to allow a â??Newco Rangersâ?? to remain in the SPL in 2012/13 season. The results of the ballots returned were are as follows: Yes: 119 (18%) No: 542 (82%) Votes not returned: 247 http://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2012/07/03/results-of-%E2%80%98well-society-ballot/

pdee 1st Team Regular Join Date: 13-10-2006 Posts: 1,917 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- donald findlay and bomber know green is not the owner of our club,they are asking him to prove he is ,he is stalling on meeting them to give him time to get our season tickets .if green can prove to donald he owns the club then donald moves with a bid,if he cant prove he owns the club we dont need to raise much money to get our club back as then the fans will know what he is up to .thats why they are telling you not to buy season tickets ,white is still involved thats my opinion and others thats why we need them to come clean ,the more i here about this lot the more it stinks .i love the club the same as as all of you and a fear the worst if we dont stop them,

Former Rangers player John Brown has accused Charles Green of giving in to Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell over a proposed deal to retain top-flight football at Ibrox. Green has been meeting Clydesdale Bank Premier League clubs in recent days in a bid to persuade them to accept his new company's application to acquire Rangers' share in the competition. Reports claim Green has offered to accept points deductions and a transfer embargo in order to secure SPL status. Brown is leading an attempted fans' buyout of Green's company, who bought the business and assets of Rangers for £5.5million last month and he criticised Green's approach. "Green has surrendered," Brown said. "I think Peter Lawwell had a dream about keeping Rangers in the SPL, but only if he could make sure they would never have any chance of winning the title, by giving them a points deduction for the next few seasons. "That keeps the value of the SPL for Celtic and means they can maintain a big budget for players, so they can not only win the SPL, but also have a really good chance of getting into the Champions League groups for the next four years. "That would bring Celtic in almost £100million and all the while Rangers would have to pay SPL wages while being banned from Europe for the next three years and also having no chance of winning the title. "By also surrendering and agreeing to the SFA transfer embargo, Green will leave Rangers in with no players and Ally McCoist will actually face a fight to avoid relegation." Brown is pushing ahead with plans to mount a fans' ownership bid after Green's consortium rejected two bids from different parties since taking over. "Right now I am putting in place the best legal team we can get, so that, we can do this in a proper corporate way, with supporters knowing that when they put money in to buy themselves a share in Rangers, their cash is safe. "My plan will put Rangers men in charge of Rangers. The type of people who will not surrender to Peter Lawwell and Celtic the way Green has surrendered to them." Brown and former Rangers vice-chairman Donald Findlay are awaiting a meeting with Ibrox chairman Malcolm Murray after demanding to see ownership documents relating to the club. Murray pulled out of a meeting on Monday and Rangers said one would take place later in the week, while Green later told supporters all of their questions would be answered in the next week.

The Scottish Football Association will block any attempt to include Charles Greenâ??s Rangers newco in the Scottish Premier League for the 2012/13 campaign, according to Stewart Regan. The chief executive of Scottish footballâ??s governing body made the statement as he addressed the member clubs of the Scottish Football League at a meeting on Tuesday. Sides in the SPL will vote on Wednesday over whether to approve the transfer of Rangersâ?? member share of the league to Greenâ??s new company. An 8-4 majority is required to ratify such a move, but seven clubs have already stated they will vote no. The businessman though remains confident that some club chairmen will change their minds at the last minute and allow his team to participate in the top flight. Should he fail, SFL clubs will vote on proposals to include a newco Rangers in the First Division, instead of having an application process for them to potentially join Division Three, next Thursday. When asked if Regan had stated during his address to SFL representatives that the Scottish FA would stand in the way of newco Rangers playing in the SPL, Livingston chairman Gordon McDougall remarked: â??In his opinion, yesâ?. The Scottish FA were not available for comment.

PFA Scotland understands that Mr Charles Green has written to all clubs in the English Premier League and Championship alleging that our members who have exercised their legal right not to be employed by Sevco Scotland Ltd (newco), have acted in breach of contract. This is repeated and PFA Scotland will shortly be writing to all clubs outlining our Solicitorâ??s legal view on this matter and sharing with them legal guidance issued by the Scottish FA which we believe supports the Playersâ?? position. Whilst it is accepted that newco is entitled to argue breach of contract, the Players Union is dismayed that attempts are being made to prevent our members from playing professional football simply because the have exercised their legal right not to transfer to newco. PFA Scotland President and FIFPro Executive Member Tony Higgins said â? I havenâ??t spoken to a single Employment or Sports Solicitor who agrees with Mr Greenâ??s interpretation of the law. Our members are being advised by our employment specialists, Brian Napier QC and Wil Van Megen, Head of Legal Department at FIFPro. We are supremely confident that under TUPE and European Law on basic principles of freedom of movement, our members are entitled to sign for new clubs.â? PFA Scotlandâ??s Lawyer, Margaret Gribbon of Bridge Litigation who acts on behalf of the majority of the objectors said â??It is newco who have in actual fact acted unlawfully by failing to inform and consult with Rangers players prior to the TUPE transfer. Newco has never employed the Players or held their registration, yet they believe they are entitled to prevent the Scottish FA from releasing the Playersâ?? registrations to the new company. Newco is not a member of any footballing body in Scotland and it is unclear what league they will be playing in at the start of the season. It is simply not credible therefore for Mr Green to accuse the players of being motivated by financial gain. The Playersâ?? reasons for leaving are purely professional and Mr Green would not have had a club to buy had it not been for their salary sacrifices. We do not consider that the newcoâ??s allegation of breach of contract will stand up to scrutiny and so in the event of the Playersâ?? registrations not being issued to a new club, we will look to FIFA and/or the Court of Session for a speedy remedy.â? http://pfascotland.co.uk/2012/news/pfa-scotland-response-to-allegation-players-acting-in-breach-of-contract/

Livingston chairman says clubs warned of "financial Armageddon" if vote goes against Rangers. There's that Sporting Integrity again

Chris McLaughlin‏@BBCchrismclaug #SFL meeting continues at Hampden. Source tells me that members advised 16 of the 30 clubs are needed to vote newco #Rangers into Div 1. Chris McLaughlin‏@BBCchrismclaug No #SFL vote expected today. Members could agree to call EGM though which would take place next week

Sent: Tuesday, 3 July 2012, 14:13 Subject: RFFF poll results OVER 75 per cent of Rangers fans polled on the club's future would rather they played in SFL Division Three next season than accept a compromise deal for a place in the SPL. In a survey conducted by the Rangers Fans' Fighting Fund from the email database of the club's season ticket holders, the Rangers fans were asked three questions: (1) Do you want Rangers to play in SFL Division One next season - with sanctions? (2) Do you want Rangers to play in SFL Division One next season if there are sanctions? Or (3) Should Rangers drop into and play from SFL Division Three next season? Only 3 per cent of fans who responded went for option (1): just over 20 per cent chose option (2) while almost 76 per cent said they would prefer Rangers to go to the bottom division of the Scottish Football League. "Every other club and their fan base seems to have had an opinion of what should happen to Rangers," said a spokesperson for the RFFF. "That's why we wanted Rangers fans to voice their opinion - and they have done so. We said we would publish the findings - and that's what we are doing. "It shows the depth of feeling among our fans who have shown that they don't want any favours from the rest of the clubs - or any preferential treatment. "What these Rangers fans are saying is: "If that is what is to happen to us, then let it happen and let us move on. We will support Rangers - no matter where they are playing."

Green & Murray have agreed to meet Donald Findlay QC tomorrow. Questions have been sent to them in advance. Retweeted by Chris Graham

Jim Spence‏@bbcjimspence Up to 6 SPL clubs at risk according to Stewart Regan. Sounds like option being presented is first division or nothing Retweeted by Chris Graham

Jim Spence‏@bbcjimspence Sfa will not allow rfc newco into spl says Stewart Regan

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http://rangerstv.tv/viewfree.php?it=10379&c=archive&r=236678734985 Charles Green Interview

By STEPHEN HALLIDAY Published on Monday 2 July 2012 21:16 SCOTTISH Football League chief executive David Longmuir insists the views of supporters over the contentious possible future of a newco Rangers in the organisation next season have been taken on board ahead of tomorrowâ??s Hampden summit of their members. Representatives of all 30 SFL clubs will gather at the national stadium tomorrow morning to debate the document distributed to them last week. Drafted by SFA chief executive Stewart Regan in conjunction with Longmuir and Scottish Premier League chief executive Neil Doncaster, one of its key proposals is the admission of Charles Greenâ??s reformed Rangers into the First Division. The move has caused widespread disquiet among fans of SFL clubs, who believe the Ibrox club should instead have to submit an application to join the Third Division in the wake of their failure to emerge successfully from administration. No vote on the issue will be carried out at tomorrowâ??s meeting. Under SFL rules, a minimum of five daysâ?? notice is required to call an extraordinary general meeting of clubs where any such resolution can be put to what would be a secret ballot. Tomorrowâ??s meeting, called by the SFL board last week, is intended to gauge opinion among the member clubs and for Longmuir and his fellow board members to try and persuade them of the merits of a proposal which would eventually see the organisation amalgamate with the SPL from the 2013-14 season. â??The Scottish Football League would like to acknowledge and thank all fans who have taken the time to contact us in relation to the current critical issues affecting our game,â? said Longmuir in a statement tonight. â??Many fans have shared with us their concerns and their views on opportunities for the broader game which may arise out of the current issue. I can confirm that every piece of communication has been read objectively and sincerely, and that many contributions have been insightful and thought-provoking. We will, however, be unable to respond to each individual piece of correspondence. I thank you for your understanding.â? Some clubs, however, have already taken the strong views of their supporters on board by publicly declaring their opposition to Rangers being placed in the First Division. Falkirk, Raith Rovers, Morton, Dunfermline and Clyde have stated they would vote against the proposal. Several others, including Partick Thistle and Alloa, have released statements pledging to take feedback from their fans on board before making a decision. SFL president Jim Ballantyne, meanwhile, has revealed he intends to abstain from any vote as his own club, Airdrie United, could be among the beneficiaries of Rangers joining the organisation. If the Ibrox club were admitted to the Third Division, Airdrie would be promoted to the First Division as the runners-up in last seasonâ??s play-off final. Ballantyne found himself in a similar position in both 2008 and 2009 when Airdrie moved up a division as a result of the respective demotions of Gretna and Livingston for insolvency events. â??We are going to abstain from voting because Airdrie could benefit from a particular decision,â? said Ballantyne. â??But it is not a formal vote [on Tuesday], we are just looking for a steer from the clubs. I donâ??t know whatâ??s going to happen. We are going to completely run through the document sent to all SFL clubs last week and assess all the various options available.â? The SPL will be keeping a watchful eye on events along the corridor at Hampden. They are scheduled to hold their own general meeting on Rangersâ?? future on Wednesday when they will vote on whether the existing SPL share of the Ibrox club is transferred to Charles Greenâ??s newco. Seven clubs â?? Hearts, Dundee United, Aberdeen, Hibs, St Johnstone, Inverness Caledonian Thistle and St Mirren â?? have already publicly declared their intention to vote â??Noâ??. Green needs an 8-4 vote in his favour to retain SPL status for Rangers. His newco club require to gain SFA membership in order to play anywhere next season. Their application was received by the SFAâ??s lawyers on Friday and will be assessed this week. Meanwhile, Green has vowed to pursue legal claims against the Rangers players who refused to join his new company. Norwich-bound Steven Whittaker and Kyle Lafferty, who joined Swiss side Sion, became the first of ten players who objected to their transfer to the newco to secure moves. However, Green has vowed to fight for transfer money and revealed he had written to every league club in the UK warning them to stay away from the players. Green said: â??Our lawyers will pursue these claims. We have written to every Premier League and Football League club in the UK telling them clearly that we see this as a breach of contract.â? http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rangers-newco-we-will-not-ignore-fans-over-newco-says-sfl-chief-david-longmuir-1-2388687

statement from bomber tomorow -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- just spoke to bomber, all papers have a story that donald findlay,bomber has put out, our new owners agreed to meet donald on wednesday regarding who owns the club,they have cancled once again,they have asked for bomber to put a bid in,they know we have them big time they are frightend to meet ask yourself why, donald has set a account up for us to pay into the details will be out in the next 24 hours,i know we are all waiting for things to happen,but beleive me there is plenty happening behind the scenes , green is running scared beleive me, we must stick together and support bomber and donald, just ask yourself why do they not want to tell us who owns our club . they have no money no funds they are drying up bears . i spoke to bomber for over a hour and he beleives we will do this no probs if the fans keep with him and the x players who are fighting for our club, i would love to tell you all more but we need to keep things back just now ,just keep the faith and we will get these imposters out pdee 1st Team Regular Join Date: 13-10-2006 Posts: 1,906 Re: statement from bomber tomorow -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- gorbals loyal the investors and backers are the fans ,why are people still asking this,we have told you over and over ,bombers bid is all about a fans buy out and we have rangers fans from all oveer the world pledging there money what more can i tell you ,the money is there if we stick together, off FF