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toothless, but agree that they probably had to in the end, or be suspeneded for a year.

Really really concernered to see the full details of this 'deal' pure pish. he signed to be shafted from all positions i hope not

motherwells goni get pumped too haha

did he get 10% like the last 'investor' ?,, that makes about 15 mill now?

I know this isn't for slagging other Rangers sites and maybe it's not about the site as such, but to have lies told about something as serious as this is infuriating.

Well keep it to that forum

I suppose we could arrange a series of friendly matches with top European opposition, but what's our team going to be if we weren't in any league at all, never mind the 3rd?

I dont think we can play friendlys without a SFA license? not sure, read that somewhere, but would like to do that too, but look at our current friendlys arranged lol, kelty hearts hehe

What a complete farce, there a fucking joke, not a funny one at that.

Its a complete utter joke now. hope we tell them to fook off and call there bluff

mate, attachments are still behind permissions on forum, Im not a member on ff

Can you not put a direct link please?

the day the transfer deadline closes

tell you one thing tho,, there cancellations dept really are bampots of the highest kind.

took me 46 mins at 5p poer min to cancel the bloody thing

As usual with stories about Rangers and the wider Scottish football picture, by the time you type something it has usually been overtaken by events. It's with some trepidation, then, that I post this; but I think that, even in the disturbed times we live in, this picture will not change too much in the days ahead. If anything, I think the scenario described will become ever more apparent as the week goes on.

 

Some years ago, in a bid to define actual support for Scottish nationalism as opposed to fans at Hampden to see Scotland, Alex Salmond described the football Scot as a 90 minute nationalist, happy enough to wave the Lion Rampant during a game but unconvinced by the wider idea of complete separation from the UK. This idea was later transferred to Rangers fans, in the form of the 90 minute bigot, who sings from the Forbidden Songbook but doesn't, in his or her 'real life', actually bother with religion much.

 

There's some merit in both caricatures. Now we can add another species to this tartan sub-genus: The 90 Minute Social Conscience. While this sounds like a title on one of Mark E.Smith's early records, it pretty much sums up the smell wafting from panic stricken boardrooms and fan sites. The idea seems to be that Rangers require punishment on the grounds that it is the right thing to do; that integrity is essential in football; and that, should the game crumble still further, the government ought to intervene to protect this crucial, societal issue.

 

As a bit left wing politically I'm delighted to be joined on the moral high ground by so many previously shy socialists. At the last general election, I and (iirc) 886 other souls in the Paisley South constituency voted for the Scottish Socialist Party. The majority of my fellow voters returned the appaling Douglas Alexander, a lightweight crony in the Blair administration who makes up for his lack of substance by leaning forward and earnestly assuring people he only entered politics to help people. Perhaps he could get a job delivering meals on wheels, since his record of helping to date is not glorious.

 

Be that as it may, the fact remains that a huge majority of voters plumped for parties which openly and unashamedly embrace the UK policies of the last 30 years - all is fair in the pursuit of money and possessions, rights and expendable should they prevent the first goal, and the law can be regarded as an inconvenience rather than rules.

 

How sweet it is to see this vote for Thatcherism swept away in the world of football. Sweet? Well, decaying corpses are often referred to as having a sickly-sweet smell, and that analogy seems most apt for the game at the moment. Suddenly, workers' rights are vital! St Mirren's throwback chair, Stewart Gilmour, is in the papers today wringing his hands, tearing his hair and warning of staff redundancies. I'd take him more seriously if he'd been seen on one march against a plant closure; to the best of my limited knowledge his only public statements outside of St Mirren have been to try and reverse the hard won legal rights of people and clubs by insisting football clubs ought to abrogate their right to legal appeal.

 

The idea of a fan spring may appeal, but in reality is nothing more than people whistling in the dark to keep up their spirits. Society is monetarist, and football is the same. Not only does the concept seem unlikely to work in the wider context, even at a micro level the numbers don't add up.

 

If clubs are reliant on a hard core of supporters rather than sponsor and TV money, their financial resources are going to be less than at present, leaving them all yet more vulnerable to the predatory advances of our southern cousins, for whom money is little issue. The much talked about revival of teams filled with young Scots simply won't happen - it will be Conference, League and Championship sides who will have these players. I should note that I include Rangers in this vision - indeed, we're the first team to suffer from the exodus, with the players who left following administration showing what is likely to happen for the forseeable future.

 

Within the wider European picture, the reliance on money is every bit as entrenched as it is in the UK. UEFA fair play rules or not, we will see the same clubs challenging for the leagues across the continent, and they will ony be joined by those with huge investement on tap. Yet we are expected to stand against this monolith, with our inferior stadia, retrograde playing style, players of mediocre ability and backward coaching: all this, somehow, will spark interest in the game enough to usher in a New Dawn. I fear our isolation will increase, not the opposite.

 

Anyway, I imagine you are getting pretty bored by now, if you are reading this far. I'll finish with another quote from St Mirren's Stuart Gilmour:

 

"As directors of football clubs we need to look at everything but I hope there are other options. The government needs to have a look at this. This is now a society issue and it’s time for government to take a close look and get involved."

 

Ah, if only. Governments these last 30 years and more do not intervene, until they lead to events like the London Riots. Just because you have screwed up royally and are facing extermination, you can scarce expect the government to bail you out. When one considers the money that has gone into football over the last 20 years, it would be outrageous on a scale to match bankers' bonuses should we see the State suddenly come back to life and pump money into football.

 

No, your 90 minute conscience won't save you now, Scotland. You have chosen this society, where being rich or powerful guarantees survival and the poorest are rubbed out, deservedly or not; now you have to make the best of it.

a quote from the SSP website

Our call is for a Scottish socialist republic, in which the people are sovereign, not some descendant of the house of Saxe-Coburg, and not the multinationals who like to squat on our shores till the government subsidies run out.

 

 

We will fight to become a nation, a beacon, of peace, not an exploited outpost of the dying British Empire.

 

Says it all really you chose to vote them

Already cancelled SKY this week,, could buy a season book for what i paid for last 3 months sky

Charles Paterson ‏@charlesp_sky

 

‪#SSN‬ understands Rangers' representation at today's meeting is due to the old club's SPL share not having been relinquished

Is it that important they want ally to be there to do that?, something for one of CG minnions surly.

just posted this in another thread .

my thinking is,, if there is no chance of us being re-admited, and according to most chairmen wont even be discussed, then why are they even there

1011:

So, questions being asked as to who in Hampden Green and McCoist are visiting...answers on a postcard please.

1008:

BREAKING NEWS

Newco Rangers owner Charles Green and manager Ally McCoist have arrived at Hampden.

hummm some 'breaking news' brom our beeb friends, could be an interesting day

What is it with that bloody book?

buy the wife it and see lol

is this what we will hear tomorrow?

some intersting facts,, without a doubt put as a co-incidence by some

I really want to say something lol, but il refrain.... looks pretty crystal clear from here lol

anyways, I agree with about 3 pages ago, people hate us for success. not for religion.

Only thing stands out to me is, he says he already had a favourable reply from the english FA.

for what its worth, he may be a crackpot, but he legal-loophole-expert LOL

would like it to happen if even if only to see more tims wound up on twitter

some scary figures in there

he removed his tweets from yesterday :-s

With respect people are entitled to their opinion - especially when they justify it with reasons.

 

Scotland is all but a secular country now and while I'd never tell any bear (or anyone in fact) how to enjoy their football club (or life) there is a good argument for the religious aspect of the Rangers support being over-stated.

I agree,, its quite annoying when people shoot you down for having an opinion. I wasnt slating anyones opinion, I was just saying I was glad they eventually found there reason for hating 'all things rangers men'

Would you care to explain? Or are you trolling?

Trolling... better answer than debating on here saddly

At least some of your true faces are coming out in this thread now