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Like almost everyone else I thought Rangers were awful last night, a turgid game with only a few positives. Yet, some 12 hours later not only was ours Scotland's best result in Europe last night on reflection we were rarely troubled despite being away from home and playing in oppressive heat. We created some brilliant chances and on another night could have won 4 or 5 nil. Perception is everything in football. Most of us could see that Alashkert were as poor a side as we've faced at this stage in Europe and after our good runs in recent seasons there's an expectation we'll reach the group stages comfortably and with some style. The disappointment of losing to Malmo still hangs heavy in the air.
It's worth noting that Scotland will have no representatives in the Europa Conference League this season, unlike Gibraltar, Cyprus and Kazakstan. Aberdeen and St Johnstone failing to qualify, following Hibs who were already out. The reality is we play in a poor league, that's getting poorer every season. We've probably over-achieved in Europe recently. I think the Europa League is one we can expect to compete in. The Champion's League, despite its riches and glamour, is a step beyond us currently. We'll see where we are in 12 months, but for now I'm looking forward to the draw and to some big European nights at Ibrox once again. It's great we're there.
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13 hours ago, ranger_syntax said:
Wait, are you really making an appeal to authority by linking to a collection of anecdotes in the guardian?!
Wahey, you used emojis. Bless.
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2 hours ago, ranger_syntax said:
What a load of rubbish.
You're right, I just made that up, it's a fair cop. This guy probably made this up too, https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2021/aug/23/anti-vaxx-athletes-stance-show-myths-cut-across-boundaries-privilege-covid
Steve Bruce is a shit manager, so this is probably a load of rubbish too, https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/aug/20/steve-bruce-admits-a-lot-of-newcastle-players-have-not-been-vaccinated-covid
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There's a bewilderingly high number of professional sports people who won't take the vaccine. It seems to be a mix of 'I'm young and supremely fit so it won't affect me' and exposure to 'positive mindset gurus' from who they've entirely bought into 'I can overcome everything by staying positive and focussed' which of course is great if you're trying to knock 0.5 of a second off your personal best or coming up against the best midfielder in the league but is dangerous if you're facing a highly infectious virus.
Anyway, I've no idea who many, if any, Rangers players fall into those categories, but it wouldn't be a huge surprise if some of them did.
Aside from the likely disruption to our team for two important matches this also has potential ramifications as the transfer window nears closing. I assume a player with Covid would fail a medical at another club if they were even allowed to travel for one. Likewise a Covid outbreak at Auchenhowie might make bringing in a player a challenge too.
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I personally know of more cases in Glasgow now than at anytime over the last 18 months. It's inevitable players will come into contact with Covid now, as will all of us. This won't be the last time it happens to us or to other clubs. My kids have been back at school for a week and already we've had 4 letters home about confirmed Covid cases in their classes. Footballers have families and friends and lives outside of football, they're going to catch it like the rest of us will.
Hopefully those who have tested positive are in good health, as are those close to them.
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1 hour ago, Bluedell said:
That's a little concerning. I hope that the Board know what they're doing.
Or Central Car Auctions?
It's not Central Car Auctions, I'm fairly certain of that.
I assumed it was Tomket as they're already a jersey sponsor and automotive related. Like you I hope the board know what they're doing here.
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21 hours ago, RANGERRAB said:
It’s an attempt by Murdo Fraser to stop Rangers supporters voting SNP.
how successful it is remains to be seen
You're even more cynical than me it seems! Yes, I think that's part of his motive too, I'm a little surprised everyone doesn't.
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On 07/08/2021 at 07:55, Bluedell said:
It's not the same thing. There were some Rangers-supporting Labour politicians, and some who were not Rangers fans were still willing to help the club. There are no Rangers-supporting SNP politicians and none that are willing to help us.
It's a sad indictment of the Rangers support when a politician does something positive for us and is met with claims of cynicism.
When they get met with unsubstantiated claim that they're a liar or that claims they're only doing it for political reasons from our own support, is it any wonder?
I'm not sure about the relevance other than to have another veiled dig at Fraser and his party. With friends like us....
Did I call him a liar? I don't think I did.
Forgive my cynicism, it's from my personal experiences and if yours have been different then I'm envious of you. Politician saying things for political reasons is hardly the libel of the year, but if you feel Murdo Fraser was hoping to achieve something altruistic I'd be interested in knowing what that is? I remain open-minded, believe it or not.
My final point, about the 'Ulsterfication' of Scottish politics, was simply my opinion on the descent of political discourse across the UK in recent years. Nationalism now dominates at every level of politics. Rangers supporters seem to be getting dragged into that, whether we want to or not. Fraser's article is, I assume, a riposte to some of the articles, comments and reactions to our supporters over the last few months. I understand why many might welcome that. I don't really because I feel it simply further entrenches this attempt top create 'sides', where I don't feel any should exist. We're a football club with a huge support that encompasses many conflicting views on every topic, I rile against anyone trying to pigeon-hole us. See, I can be cynical and naive at the same time!
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If only we could play Real Madrid every week.
It was inevitable we'd hit a patch of poor form after last season where we rarely put a foot wrong, every club goes through them eventually. There's a mindset change required in our team, we're no longer chasing, we're now being chased and that requires an adjustment mentally. I suspect there are other issues in the squad that we're not fully aware of too. There have been a few hints at Covid cases with players and it might be these have been more disruptive than we realise. I'm less concerned about 3 points being dropped in the league than I am about Tuesday's match. Our late goal in Malmo helped disguise an uninspired performance against a well organised but ordinary side, indeed the type of European side we've excelled in playing in recent seasons. An unfavourable result on Tuesday will see some pressure being applied to the players and management, as ridiculous as that sounds. Those of us who have been watching Rangers for a long time know our support, magnificent at times, will quickly forget about last season's heroics should this season start poorly. As Richard Gough once said at Rangers you're only as good as your last pass.
I feel Kent is working hard but things don't seem to be coming off for him just now and our full backs aren't yet hitting their stride. That's such an important part of our style of play when it's not fully firing others need to step up.
Hopefully we'll respond like Champions to this and start showing the side we know is there on Tuesday.
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I've a Romanian friend who I've got to know fairly well over the years. We found ourselves talking about politics one day and I asked about her memories of living under Ceaușescu and his hated Communist regime prior to the fall of the Iron Curtain. I knew what had happened to him but I was curious what happened to the thousands of others who were party members, supporters and politicians after the revolution. She simply shrugged and said "they became democrats", the same people stayed in power they just did it under a different name.
As a Glaswegian I can honestly say I've seen no discernible difference in my local politicians since the SNP replaced Labour as the dominant party in the city. They are basically the same, they just have a different colour rosette. When Labour ran the city and the country there weren't many of their politicians pinning Rangers colours to the mast, but there seemed to be plenty happy to sport green and white and a surprisingly high number of Thistle supporters. Now the SNP run the city and the country it's the same thing.
I don't have a particular problem with Murdo Fraser's article other than he's a politician himself and, for me, is clearly hoping it might garner him, and his party, some support. Judging by this thread he might be right too. I'm fairly cynical of his motives though. I don't think he's hoping a couple of SNP MSPs will 'out themselves' as bluenoses, or that Bute House will arrange a civic reception for Gerrard. I worry this is simply another salvo in the ongoing 'culture wars' that make up modern politics these days. In the end there's probably no other subject Fraser could have written about that would have created as much response, that's a very sad inditement on our society currently.
In my experience nobody is going to have their political mindset changed by posters on a Rangers message board and so I have no intention of trying to alter any of my fellow posters deeply held political views. I have very few deeply held political views as it happens. In the last 20 or so years that I've posted on various Rangers related message boards the lack of political support the club and fans seem to have is a fairly regular topic. I actually do think it's an important topic. We all know that there are Rangers supporters in the SNP, just as there were in Scottish Labour back in the day, however they largely hide it.
For me that's what needs addressed, a proper understanding of why openly supporting Rangers seems to be politically toxic and has been for a long time now.
For work and now family reasons I'm a regular visitor to Ireland. Although I lived in Northern Ireland when based there I visited the Republic a lot and was initially wary saying I supported Rangers when conversation turned to football. I'd quickly discovered that certain assumptions were made about me when my football allegiances were known. It was assumed I was an Orangeman, I was a Loyalist and I was a bigot. I realised that most people there had never actually met a Rangers supporter, they'd a stereotype in their head from footage of rioting in Loyalist Belfast or Portadown, a basic understanding of the Glasgow football/religion split and perhaps some overheard song lyrics during a live match on Sky. After a few months I realised I was as much to blame for this stereotype as the disaffected youth covering his face with a red, white and blue bar scarf as he stones the police during a contentious parade in north Belfast. I'm not an Orangeman, or a Loyalist and I try not to be a bigot and yet I'm a huge Rangers fan. So I stopped down playing my football support and let people make their own minds up about Rangers supporters based on their interactions with me instead.
Like supporters of all clubs the Rangers support is broad and complicated. We all agree on very little, we hold different views on most subjects and, I believe, for the majority of our support who we want to win a football match has little bearing on who we vote for. I also understand that for some people supporting Rangers is an extension of their political belief system. For them it's an intrinsic part of their identity and belonging. That's fair enough and I don't get to tell them they're wrong to hold those views. At the same time they don't get to tell people they're wrong for holding different ones.
I enjoyed my time living in Northern Ireland, it's a beautiful part of the world and I found the people there friendly and welcoming. I didn't care for their politics or politicians though. The politics of identity were dominant there then and remain so. I see shadows of that in the rest of the UK now. The rise of nationalism isn't just confined to Scotland. In my opinion Murdo Fraser's party are nationalist now, just a different type of nationalist. That's my political opinion and I don't expect anyone else to share it simply because we support the same football team.
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1 hour ago, Franc Ergs said:
The Ladbrokes deal back in 2015 was worth 2m per season, so i'd suggest that 1.6m per season six years later is not such good value.
It's all about the record breaking 8m figure for the SPFL though.
Yes, that's what was reported at the time so this does seem like a backward step. Signing up for 6 years is the real surprise for me, I wonder if there's a break clause in it.
Scottish football isn't easy to sell currently and I suspect the SPFL's desperation took any strength away from their bargaining, particularly after having no sponsor at all for a season. Ultimately it's the people in control of Scottish football who've led it to this point, you wonder when other clubs are going to realise that and demand action.
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3 hours ago, Scott7 said:
Parks.
Maybe. I'd be disappointed if that was the case. Excluding the car industry from sponsoring the league because one of our major shareholders is in competition with them isn't going to stand up to any serious scrutiny though.
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3 hours ago, Bluedell said:
Perhaps Rangers look at what they are able to get for their sleeve sponsorship and it's more than they are getting for the higher profile Cinch sponsorship?
Yes, that would make sense if it's all about the money the clubs are getting. We carried Ladbrokes name on our sleeve when they were sponsors of the league, and it seems standard practice in football to wear the name of the competition on the shirt sleeve these days.
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I remain a little puzzled by this.
The £100k commission is fairly standard in that industry, it sounds a lot but in terms of the £8 million figure that's being reported as the value it's not and if the SPFL agreed to use a third party again that's not unusual in that industry.
Cinch are owned by British Car Auctions who also own We Buy Any Car and are being used as a vehicle (pardon the pun) to sell many of the cars they buy through 'We Buy Any Car'. There is more profit in selling directly to the consumer than to the trade, it's simple business. The established car industry isn't over the moon about this but the lines in the traditional car industry have been blurring for years now. I struggle to accept that's what our gripe is with this. Does this deal perhaps preclude us from attracting another motor brand as a shirt sponsor? Maybe, but we've a betting sponsor currently while playing in competitions sponsored by Ladbrokes, it's not new to see competitive sponsors involved.
Maybe it's the value and length of the sponsorship that's at issue. It's hard to tell just now if this is good value or not. The implications of Covid on the economy are still to be felt. Certainly the feeling that the SPFL and SFA haven't sold Scottish football at its proper value to TV and sponsors is one I share, but their 'bird in the hand' argument is valid and might yet prove right.
There is growing political pressure to exclude betting firms from shirt sponsorship and advertising. It seems likely this will happen, and it might be Rangers are working to secure a new non-gambling shirt sponsor. Again, I would have thought the best and highest profile club in the country sporting a rival brand to cinch would have upset Cinch more than Rangers.
This might simply be another attempt by Rangers to disrupt and challenge the SPFL. I suspect fans of a number of clubs don't see them as fit for purpose and this might be political expediency. Shining the media spotlight on Doncaster and the commercial deals will lead to extra pressure on him. Rangers might have taken the temperature of some other clubs too and feel they have some backing on this. Celtic, the SPFL's main backers are in chaos currently and at their weakest in years, it might be that the timing is good.
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What was the cryptic comment about Roofe, Barker and Aribo? Are the isolating from track and trace or have the actually caught the damn thing? Or have they simply got good old fashioned injures and I'm reading way too much into it?
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Paterson started the match really well and for first 15 minutes was the best player on the park. I think Brighton put a man wide to stop his runs then and he was a bit quieter after that. I watch Paterson and think he should first choice right back, then Tav comes on and you see his crossing and passing and realise that Paterson still has a bit to go to match that.
The 11 that ended the match was a lot closer to our probable first choice starting 11 than the 11 who started the match and it showed. As others have said Kelly, Paterson, Itten and Bassey did themselves no harm today, I didn't think Jones took his chance to impress either his current manager or any potential future ones.
Brighton are a better side than any we'll face domestically this season. I know better than to read much into friendlies but I know I prefer a goalless draw to a 6-2 hammering a week before the season starts.
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3 hours ago, Bluedell said:
I don't mind the strip itself. It's quite nice.
However all the sponsorship gold is a bit overpowering, and it would look better overall to have the more traditional white.
I know we won the league but do we really need to have everything in gold?
I thought it was just me who didn't mind this strip while the internet in general seems to be up in arms about it. For me the issue this strip faces is the issue all our strips face and that's the sponsor. Their logo feels bigger and more imposing than previous sponsors, I'm sure that's just an illusion. If the 32Red was a little smaller and little less intrusive it would make a big difference I think.
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3 hours ago, Rousseau said:
I've dug this out:
"The vast majority of sides in the Championship are comparable to half the SPFL, you could swap St Mirren, Ross County and Motherwell with Dundee, Raith Rovers and Dunfermline and see no change in quality."
--JohnMc, May 12.
Hahaha! I don't want to know what kind of records you keep!
I still think there's little difference between most, if not all, Championship clubs and the bottom half of the SPFL. The difference is the the teams in the SPFL will play against at least 3 or 4 better sides 3 or 4 times during the season, whereas the Championship sides will play against similar quality sides all season long. It's not that I think Dunfermline are significantly poorer than Ross County, I don't. I just think that after spending most of last season at Raith Rovers, a club who play possession based passing football, it was time for him to step up a level or leave.The coaches know more about him than me, I'm just surprised that at 19 they don't think he should be playing at a higher level than the Championship. I expected him to follow the Stephen Kelly model of a season in the Championship then a season the SPFL, like we've done with Ben Williamson. If nothing else a season at SPFL level gives him a bigger shop window and increases any potential fee we could get if we choose to sell him next summer.
I guess we have to trust Mulholland and his coaches on this.
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If we think he's a top talent why is he spending the season at Dunfermline? I'd expected him to join Livingston or Ross County or St Mirren this season, and see if he could force his way into an SPFL side and if he could then see what his performances are like at that level. I just don't think it's possible to go from the Championship to the Rangers first team. We either think Kennedy is still at least 2 years away from our first team or else he's never going to make it with us, in which case sell him now and let him get on with his career. It's a very strange move.
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I'm surprised at the Kennedy move, I thought he'd go to a SPFL club, he's 19 now, he should be playing at a higher level than that. He showed last season at Raith Rovers he can play in that division, I don't understand why another season there is in his or our interest. Frankly, if West Ham did offer £600k, we should have bitten their hand off.
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Milngavie looks good in the summer. Nice and inconspicuous for his trips to Waitrose at least.
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There was an interesting exchange between Neil Lennon and the SFA's Ian Maxwell on this morning's BBC Scotland Euro Breakfast radio show. Lennon continues to peddle his 'we were treated differently over Covid' line and Maxwell's response left him floundering. It's telling though that it took another guest to correct Lennon rather than one of the money journalists BBC Scotland Sport employ.
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As ever the headline is a little misleading, wishing the best side in Scotland had a couple more Scots in it is hardly news.
When looking to buy a player Rangers always look at Scotland first. That doesn't always mean the player will be Scottish (Novo, Kamara for example), but there's a higher likelihood they will be. If for example the club is looking for a central midfielder we'll look at who is available in Scotland first. This is perfectly logical as someone already based in Scotland knows the league and is probably on a poorer salary than we'll pay them making a move to Rangers both attractive financially as well as from a football perspective. This also removes all potential issues around settling in, if a player is based in Dundee or Aberdeen they'll probably need to move house but it's hardly a huge upheaval for the player's family. The other attraction of a Scottish player is European squads. There's still a requirement to have a certain amount of 'home grown' players in the registered European squads each season. This is probably why a player like Jamie Barjonas was retained despite never looking like he'd get a game. He was cover just in case we'd a terrible run of injuries.
Rangers have signed Murphy, Middleton, Hastie, McLoughlin and Wright in recent seasons and we were seriously linked with Shinnie and McLean. Some have fared better than others, but looking for 'local' players is clearly still a big part of our plan.
Now, why Scotland isn't producing better quality players is a whole other thread...
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16 minutes ago, CammyF said:
I did wonder when someone was going to take issue with much of the hysterical coverage last weekend has created. Thanks for sharing.
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[FT] Rangers 1 (Helander 66') - 0 Celtic
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Kent's tracking back with McGregor and generally being around him and preventing him getting on the ball was hugely important for us yesterday. Tactically Callum McGregor is their link between defence and attack and Kent had a job to do today in helping prevent that, he did it well in my opinion.
We really should step back for a moment and consider our side yesterday. I think it's now clear we've had Covid problems at the club for a while and it's affecting a number of players and senior staff in different ways. Barasic is not fit, I don't know why, but he's not and that's been clear every time he's played this season. He was rightly replaced by Bassey a few weeks ago. Yet he was called upon to perform yesterday and he did. Their young winger is a decent enough player and they were overlapping a lot on that side, Barasic had a lot to do yesterday. It also seems like Helander is a player who struggles to play two matches a week. There seem to be fitness issues with him, he may have historical injuries that need managed, he might simply not yet be over his summer exertions. Yesterday was his second game in 4 days, with nearly 7,000 miles flying too. Balogun is no right back. He might have played there before but compared to Tav or Paterson he's defensively sound but offers a lot less going forward. So much of our attacking play is dependent on our full backs linking with midfielders and forwards and delivering crosses. An unfit Barasic and a centre half at right back makes a big difference to our style of play. Add in a rookie keeper making his league debut for us rather than a commanding seasoned international and you have to say to go through that match without conceding a goal is remarkable.
As has been said Kent and Roofe aren't fully fit. Both did important jobs yesterday. Kamara, Davis, Morelos and Aribo played in the heat of Thursday too. Morelos ability to draw a foul is a thing of beauty, he should have a wing dedicated to him in Kelvingrove Art Gallery where future generations can marvel at his dedication to getting his body between their centre halves and the ball before taking the inevitable dunt from behind. He helped break up the play, slow the game down at times and allow us to regroup. Plus we realised they were suspect from set-pieces as indeed it turned out.
We'd no defenders on our bench yesterday. No manager in the dug out, no captain on the park. That was an important win yesterday, that was a show character above all else. Loved it.