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4 minutes ago, RANGERRAB said:

Why did it take 30minutes for them to come up with the image showing sima offside?

Normally this is done at the time of the incident in less than a minute.

Something not right here. 

It's clear that Gollum made an arse of it or was shit scared to make the call for fear of having to call the glazers. Offside is their get of jail card. Remember the ref gave a by kick. 

If I was Phillipe Clement. I would be making a PowerPoint with Rodgers and McGregor bumping their gums in their post match comments. That's day one of your Spanish training camp. Arrogant f**kers. Nothing has been won yet. 

45 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Klos

 

Porini

Amo

Cuellar

Numan

 

Prytz

Reyna

Gio

Laudrup

 

Mols 

Negri 

 

Subs - Tugay, Flo and Ricksen

 

No Albertz?

7 minutes ago, 26th of foot said:

Young Beck is an excellent prospect.

He's definitely no Loser and Where It's At...

1 hour ago, Rousseau said:

You sound like SykseyBear!  

I thought he was banned? He was the first person to react to my Rangers V Killie match post? 

4 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

What crime?   

 

I agree a penalty should have been awarded, but I'm not of the opinion that it's a stonewall penalty; it's partly accidental.

 

This morning, Dermot thought it was a penalty, yet Jay Boothroyd, who was in the discussion, thought it wasn't. It's not an egregious decision not to award a penalty. 

There's no debate for me. It's clear as day in terms of whether it's a penalty.

2 minutes ago, rbr said:

We will never know if it was offside or not as the still that was shown was not the correct image that should have been used , however at the end of the day we should have done better . 

 

Given how poor we are upfront in the main striking dept , its a miracle imho that IF we win our games in hand we will only be 2 behind , PC has worked wonders with a squad that cant finish chances are are down to the bare bones in midfield .

How we performed and this refereeing debacle are two totally separate issues. Even if we had won this game I would still be very angry at how this has played out. 

2 minutes ago, CammyF said:

The whole process / timeline stinks. The still that "confirmed" the offside took 30mins to conjure up and looks like the ball is in motion.

 

In the last 3 meaningful OF games we've been robbed by dubious refereeing decisions and all 3 games have turned on those decisions. 

 

Its happening to frequently to be a coincidence and we as a club must challenge.

 

Us fans must make Ibrox a hostile environment for those involved when they next officiate our games.

This doesn't have anything to do with what's happens in the stadium IMO. It a symptom of what's gone on beyond the game. Refs getting windows smashed and abused in public, Celtic fans hiring Private Investigators to follow refs, Celtic FC asking particular refs to relieved of their duties. No wonder refs are intimated.

1 minute ago, Blue Moon said:

None of this negates the fact that Collum thought the handball wasn't a penalty.  It is astonishing and he should answer for it.

Let's face it. Finding that offside was his get out of jail card.

15 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

There was a still on Ref Watch. It looks offside to me. I don't think there's any doubt.

 

Yes, I don't understand how the Referee doesn't give it; He is looking directly at it.

 

It would have been overturned, anyway, because Sima was offside. 

That's fine tbh if that's the case but the regardless of the whether it's a pen the process stinks and is a culmination of the culture of pressure they have cultivated for decades. I never bought into it before after the last few seasons, I'm sold. The turning point was the 21/22 season when Dundee were denied a stonewall penalty at Celtic Park (Jota uses his hand in unnatural position) in a tight match and then we were denied a stonewall pen in the same weekend up at Tannidice when Sakala was hauled back in the act of shooting. Nothing given. Then there was the Johnson non foul on Morelos and the disallowed goal in the 1-0 defeat at Ibrox this season. 

15 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

Dermot Gallagher on Ref Watch suggests it should have been a penalty, which the VAR checked. Rightly or wrongly, VAR decided against.

 

If VAR had given the penalty, then they would then have to check the offside, which then would have cancelled the penalty. 

 

No penalty is the right decision. 

Have we seen an actual still frame of when the ball is played forward in the Sima penalty incident. I've seen a pic with lines but I've also listened to several pod casts disputing the validity of the pic as it taken after the ball is struck. We need evidence as this whole situation stinks. 

I've also read many comments supporting the ref, stating that he couldn't see what happened. Has anyone actually looked at his position. He's about 10 foot away and looking directly at the incident. 

One last game before the break. One last push. We need to shake the hangover from Saturday out of our system quickly. 3 pts is non negotiable but Kiĺlie will be a tough nut to crack. I'd go with the same team that started against them with maybe Dowell coming in for Lunny (who didn't look fit IMO) and Wright for McCausland. 

I know everyone will want Silva starting but I think Clement will not play him based on his previous comments regarding players fitness etc. That leaves us with Dessers. As much as he was awful on Saturday we need to support this guy if he plays. Stay classy my fellow Rangers fans. He's not the answer but he's got to feature therefore we can't start turning in on ourselves. That's exactly what THEY will hope to happen. 

Happy New Year to one and all!

12 minutes ago, lenny3k said:

Stonewall penalty not given and player booked for diving
 

 

That's unbelievable. 

29 minutes ago, Bill said:

Why has Dujon Sterling been languishing on the bench? He was head and shoulders our best midfielder.

 

To be fair to Clement, I'm sure Sterling was carrying a knock when he arrived as manager. You do wonder if we would ever have found out how good he was in midfield if we hadn't had injuries in that area. Oh well, it seems necessity is the mother of invention after all...

10 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

On the same weekend as that awful Hearts decision on VAR the SFA need to get it together and share the audio and start being transparent.

Apologies SBG, what was the Hearts decision? 

SFA and "nothing to hide". This will be fun.

Is Danny Ings worth a shout? He's in and out of the West Ham team and despite not scoring of late, he's previously had a decent record. He's 31 with good experience.

Just now, compo said:

The captain for his superb goal from the fee kick I've not seen many better in my eighty odd years.

Stand up Mr Tavernier .

The previous 87 mins don't count? The time to get his free kick A game working was in the previous 3/4 situations.

Only one winner

Gers 2 Killie 0

FGS Sima

OK. The dust has settled and it's perspective time. When Clement came in just over 2 months ago and you provided the following terms and conditions, I would have bitten your hands off:

1. We get back in the league race, potentially cutting down an 8pt lead to 2pts if we win 2 games in hand.

2. We win our Europa League group, (netting 3 million) allowing us to enter the last 16 starting in March. 

3. We win the League Cup.

All this in the face of dreadful injuries and misfiring players inherited from another manager. We look more functional as a unit than we ever did under Beale. Clement is an astute guy and he would be seeing what we all saw yesterday. We need to be more clinical in front of goal. If we have better striking options yesterday we do not lose the game. Its as simple as that. Let's do Killie and move onwards. 

I know this player was recently championed by a now banned poster but I did notice that Langstaff scored a first half hat trick for Notts County yesterday. That's now 38 league goals in a calender year for this guy. Looking at what happened yesterday, we just need a player with a natural strikers instincts. Any striker with an ounce of ability would pounce on that Dessers chance. He wouldn't cost the earth IMO and I reckon teams in the championship will pick him up soon. If you've got it, you've got it. Look at Jamie Vardys meteoric rise. 

3 minutes ago, Blue Moon said:

I think over the piece we we created more chances.  We are in an awful situation with bad buys and injuries and it caught up with us today.  Hopefully we can improve that in the window.

Agree. Focus on beating Killie and getting players back. I've only seen Celtic 2/3 times this season and I'm convinced they will drop more points. They were average and I feel that we just needed to score first and they would have folded. Oh well.