BlackSocksRedTops

1 hour ago, RANGERRAB said:

Shankland in my view would find it much more difficult to score for Rangers when opponents have 11 men behind the ball. He wouldn’t get the space he gets at hertz. 

He would also get double the amount of chances.

8 hours ago, CammyF said:

So do we also keep the others who've had a few injuries?

It depends on who it is. I think that should be judged on certain factors including age and their market potential.

8 hours ago, CammyF said:

why do you think other managers didn't give him a chance?

One of those managers was Beale. The least said about his decision making the better.

8 hours ago, CammyF said:

Is it coincidence that when he does play, even under Clement it's when Borna is unavailable? 

Barasic has been available for the last 3 games.

3 minutes ago, CammyF said:

But it's not better than Borna offers though (miles or otherwise). If it was, how has he only managed 25 games for us since he signed?

 

Borna in my opinion is slightly better than Ridvan at the moment as he offers more going forward (his assists are decent for a LB).

 

Given Ridvans Rangers career thus far, he can't seem to play more than 5 or 6 consecutive games. 

 

We play over 50 games a season and need players who can play to a high standard for 40 odd games a season. 

 

Neither Borna nor Ridvan appear capable of that. 

Ridvan has had a few injuries but we've had managers who have just not given him a chance. Beale left him out of the Euro squad ffs. It's no surprise that he is showing good form because he's a getting a run of regular games. 

5 minutes ago, CammyF said:

So 4 (questionalble) is MANY? 

 

He was good v Hibs, decent against Kilmarnock average in the rest. 

 

He (and Borna) need moved on and given we've been linked with around 4 or 5 LBs this window, looks like the manager thinks the same. 

"Average" is still miles better than what Barasic has been offering us. I just think Ridvan has the capacity to get better, making him even more sellable. He also signed a 5 year deal. 

1 minute ago, CammyF said:

Haha - what recent games has been excellent in? 

Dumbarton last sunday.

Easter Rd on Wednesday.

3-1 victory against Kilmarnock (MOTM)

Parkhead defeat.

7 minutes ago, CammyF said:

I don't have a downer on him, just can't see him as a Rangers player. You are correct it is different from Cifuentes as he's been here 5 minutes, Ridvan has been here for much longer. 

 

I want all players we sign to succeed, and don't tend to write them off after 5 minutes. 

 

Players like Dessers, Lammers, Cifu, Sima, Sterling were all lambasted at the start of the season on here, at games by Rangers fans.

 

Sima turned it around quickly as he started to score goals, taken Dessers a little longer. 

 

Meanwhile, a player who has been here for a significant amount of time, failed to feature much under 3 managers and has struggled to play more than 6 consecutive games, has bern as injury prone, is seen now as someone we should keep after 1 decent game.

That's disingenuous. Ridvan has been excellent in many games recently. Not just 1 game.

1 minute ago, CammyF said:

So Ridvan is worth more than Shankland? How do you work that out? He's played like 25 games in 18 months, scored 1 league goal, has a horrendous injury record and isn't a 1st team regular 

He's not Scottish

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

So where are we magically getting the required £5M from? 

 

I don't think anyone has denied that he'd score goals for us. But so would Miovski who would cost the same, has better potential so why not the same clamour for him?

Where are we getting 4.5 million to use on our recent midfield addition? And who said its 5 million for Shankland? The Daily Record? We need to bring a striker in the next 3/4 days. Like all purchases/transfers, there will be significant risk attached. Getting to know the league, country, city, language etc. Shankland is also risk but there are so many factors eliminated if you buy him IMO. 

6 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Why are we still discussing Shankland? Out of our price range and doesn't fit the player trading model the manager keeps banging on about (and something we need to implement ASAP).

 

Miovski is in my opinion a far better player than Shankland, younger, would fit into our playing style and would have a far better return on investment. Not that we are likely to sign him, but a far better option than Shankland

 

As for Ridvan, if there ia any real offer on the table, take it and sell him. 

I get the player trading model ideology but we need to win league titles. Not every purchase can fit the model. We need a striker to enable us to win the league. Shankland will score goals for us. It's a no brainer.

12 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

Cifuentes to join rizaspor or some other similarly named jobber team in Turkey on loan with an option to buy. Good, be gone. Useless.

Too early to make that call IMO. Loan maybe for game time but mot with option to buy. 

10 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

Talk of small turkey club galatasaray coming back in for Ridvan. Personally think we should hold on to him and see what he can do till the end of the season.

Unless the player is wanting away, I don't see why we would pursue his departure. Not unless his sale will fund a potential new striker coming in? I can only see Ridvan improving, making him a more lucrative asset (beyond cutting even). 

Right Rangers. Where is this f**king striker? 

Who will it be? Shankland or someone we've never heard of?

Our only aim was 3 pts therefore job done. That's 3 away wins on terrible pitches and in horrible conditions after the winter break. 8 goals scored, one conceded. I would have taken that in a heart beat before the Dumbarton game. Next! 

47 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

This is a player who has made 18 first team appearances in his entire life, none in Brazil I'd add. I'm not entirely sure how he'll get a work permit, but that aside we're buying very much untried potential, he's unlikely to be ready for our first team. Both Diomande and Jefre are young players, playing in weaker leagues than ours looking to make a step up in standard. It's an interesting signing strategy, but it's risky. Whether either are currently ready to improve our first team remains to be seen. 

I mean we've bought players from better leagues than ours and they've been disasters, so I'm not knocking this new strategy, just pointing out both these players might need time to adjust. 

Is the Danish league weaker than ours? 

I like the energy of Silva. 

Wasteful but it is the first game back. Matondo needs to do more. He's got pace to burn but seems unsure how to use it. Maybe we'll see Silva coming over and Dessers to act as a focal point in the centre?

19 minutes ago, Bill said:

I really don't care what Lammers does while playing for another club. He was universally shit when he had a Rangers shirt on his back ...... that's all that matters to me.

I do care because his success over there means we can rectify the outlay on him.

32 minutes ago, Bill said:

I read this same thing a year ago about Ryan Jack but he made 36 appearances for Rangers and 4 international appearances. Going by the way he was dismissed as a permanent crock you'd have thought he hadn't played half those games. In the first half of this season he's had 17 appearances and about 900 minutes for Rangers.

 

Given his age and injuries he will never again play 40 full games a season. We all know that. The question is whether 20 - 30 appearances by a really good midfielder justifies one more season on appropriate financial terms, given the current state of our squad and our c continuing affliction with injuries.

 

Personally, I think he will move on and probably play 30 games for another SPFL side.

Possibly but we need to move on. 

8 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

 

He has played about 10 full matches worth of minutes this season. 

 

Like I said at the outset, if he can play about 20-30 games it's worth keeping him around.

Fair play but I think we need to move on. I also think Clement will see it this way based on his comments about availability. 

If Lammars does well its a win win for us. Long may it continue. 

10 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

 

 

He has always played at least 21 games a season. 

 

He has played 16 this season at the halfway point. 

Is that 16 starts or appearances? We've played about 35 competitive games this season. 

45 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

I would keep Jack.

 

He is our finest midfielder.  

 

If we can get 20-30 games a season from him, along with his presence around the club, I think it's worth it. 

 

(And make him retire from the national side.)

That IF is getting shaker by the season.

14 minutes ago, yuddie said:

Tbh if Diomande is coming in then we need to let one of Jack and Lundstram go this summer.

 

Maybe even both if you want to sign another midfielder in the summer, which Clement will want too.

Surely Jack won't be offrred a new deal.

53 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Started for them today v PSV. Another good performance as a number 9. Subbed off to very good reception from Utrecht fans

 

First game in which PSV have dropped points this season. Prior to today's draw, they had won 17 games in a row. 

3 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

That clip above makes Diomande look like Cifu...

Still think Cifu will come good. Sunny LA to dreich Govan takes a while to get used to.