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To be clear, Dave King has denied all talk of any board room rift with Park or any other and says it’s a nonsense He will directly address this in my interview with him next week Make of that what you will

It’s absolutely ridiculous tbf

Wow, that’s some reply and what a way to speak to someone. Have a good day

You are doing it again and you haven’t even read a thing I have said You have continuously told me how wrong Club1872 are, what they are doing etc is wrong because they have went about it the wrong way Can you show me anywhere, in this thread, where I have said anyone is wrong and these questions are unfair, or what they are saying is wrong? (you won’t be able too) I haven’t All I said was my first comment, not even a quote The things people are saying are fair questions (again repeating myself incase the previous times aren’t clear) What is poor is the negativity and arguing on various platforms again amongst ourselves which descends into a farce - my original point - not those asking valid questions (repeating myself) Believe it or not, it is ok to think positively about this just as it is to be sceptical As I have said above, neither are wrong nor have I attempted to tell anyone either way!

You are talking at me like I disagree with anything that you or anyone on this thread is saying So again I will say that the questions everyone has asked have been relevant and fair. I haven’t disagreed with anyone or said anyone wrong - that’s a key point This started because I said I would support it and sad to see negativity, which it is, because every subject surrounding us ends up in bickering The above post is you telling me every reason why this is wrong when I haven’t offered anything to suggest those points weren’t correct, like I have been shouting in the thread I haven’t done anything like it In essence, your making the point at the wrong person if you think I’m saying you are wrong As I said before, I will sit down and speak with them next week, I’ll ask the questions and try to get answers best I can because I too have plenty to ask Respectfully, It doesn’t need everyone telling me how wrong club1872 are or what they should have done (like above) because I haven’t said they or this was perfect in anyway The biggest issue seems I said I would back it and I will - fan ownership like fan media, done properly, is key It’s our club and it’s ok to feel that way

That’s the thing isn’t it. I didn’t mention finances or anything at first, I said I support the concept and I wasn’t looking for so much come back from an innocent comment. I have lots of respect for @Bluedellalso and haven’t challenged him. I offered some speculative answers in relation to why he is selling rather than gifting I have also openly admitted there is plenty of questions and the lads make good points Indeed, I am sitting down with Dave King & club1872 to get those answers to educate myself further. But above all, the combativeness is the response only shows my original point to be correct, the negativity surrounding it is extraordinary. As a support we literally argue over anything All my point was simply I backed the idea It’s an emotive subject obviously!

No hassles bud, it’s an emotive subject. I won’t pretend to know as much as others and concede my view is simplistic

Anyway folks, my original post was not meant to provoke a response. Merely my own tuppence worth However one thing I agree on is there is a lot of questions that is to be answered and serious questions which need asking That doesn’t mean I think any less of the idea, Never again should the events of 2012 happen, we all have an opportunity to ensure it doesn’t. That for me is the point

Again your tone is completely harsh when I made a simple post on the matter I said that because I asked perhaps his family said he has to get something back, perhaps the club knew it was a loan, it was a question which is a reasonable one you have drawn assumptions on. I asked it to speculate that perhaps it was always known he would need it back I’m not looking for an argument with you or @rbr, Indeed I have said you both make fair and good points. I have acknowledged it isn’t perfect However I believe in the concept of fan ownership, Rangers can not depend on people bailing us out. We have to have a business model It’s selfish to expect that to continue forever, I don’t expect Park or Bennett to walk away with nothing either I am not as knowledgeable as you both, but I have a very simplistic view However, I have questions to ask, I will seek to have then answered and share them on my platform very soon. I don’t think anything anyone is saying is unfair either with regards to both your points I don’t think I am either!

If you think the club should benefit from the £13m then he walks away with nothing Why should he do that? I’m not suggesting anything, you are doing all that yourself I’m not looking for an argument, your entitled to your opinion. My own is that King has sacrificed a lot, if he wants that back and has cut this deal then I’m ok with it. He’s done enough to earn that and was there when we needed him I wouldn’t expect Parks to do differently However I will get the answers and share them as I have questions myself, you aren’t saying anything wrong, I just think differently but given the opportunity I will ask

Perhaps you have an issue with those things, I’ve never found that and I don’t say that to be a dick, I just haven’t had those issues I’m in favour of fan ownership, much like pushing fan media. It’s our club I accept they aren’t perfect, I’m not telling you that or dismissing your points I’m not looking for an argument, I’m saying I believe in the concept I am looking for answers on stuff, I believe I can get them to share for everyone So we’ll see how it goes

The negativity I referred to is the sniping against 1872 Sometimes looking beyond that is necessary to achieve a goal Are they perfect? No I don’t think so but I haven’t found that Why should King walk away with nothing? He has went above and beyond and perhaps conditions were he was entitled to this funds back? My view is I’m prepared to back it and get the answers I’m looking for from them, I’ll also make sure everyone sees them as well

Certainly going to back the campaign anyway I can. A chance to ensure 2012 never happens again is a good thing and it’s sad to see negativity surrounding it Upped my subscription to legacy this morning and back what they are trying to do

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Nice to have so many options in such a strong team performance I went for Roofe, 2 goals and an assist as well as a great through ball for Defoe to win the penalty Great to have that energy and ‘anger’ (manager’s words) chomping at the bit to get in this side

Last few episodes of the 4lads podcast and a privilege to have the young fella on As someone I have watched grow as a terrific footballer and young lad Thanks to @Frankiefor his continued help and support, also to the Gersnet community

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