bigy 0 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 BBC are reporting on Twitter that there's a late night conference call among the other 11 SPL clubs, with many wanting to postpone the vote until the SFL have voted!! Absolute bottle merchants!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18699838?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Rangers: SPL chairmen ponder vote in late-night discussions Worried Scottish Premier League chairmen are believed to be holding a late night conference call as they try to resolve the crisis over Rangers. It came the night before a vote of the 12 clubs to decide on the application from Charles Green's newco Rangers to be admitted to the top flight. Motherwell have become the eighth club likely to vote against. But the vote comes amid warnings about the future of Scottish football should Rangers drop to Division Three. Scottish Football League clubs had gathered to consider that option and the alternative of placing the Ibrox club in Division One. At least 10 SFL clubs had confirmed their opposition to the First Division plan before the meeting. However, addressed by Scottish Football Association chief executive Stewart Regan and SPL counterpart Neil Doncaster, they were given more detail on claims made in a controversial document outlining the commercial impact of the options. It includes an assertion that £16m would be lost to the Scottish game if Rangers are relaunched in the Third Division. No vote had been planned at the SFL meeting and the 30 clubs agreed to consult with their own boards and fans then meet again on 12 July, when a vote is expected. BBC Scotland understands that some involved in the conference call - between the 11 SPL clubs, excluding Rangers - are pressing for their own vote to be postponed to allow the lower league clubs to make a decision on Rangers' fate. A number of clubs have listened to the views of their fans, who want Rangers refused entry to the SPL, but fear a resulting loss of television and other revenue would cripple their own finances. Motherwell became the latest to signal their intentions following the result of a survey among members of the Well Society and shareholders. With the club's board having promised that the result would help determine their stance, 82% of the 661 taking part rejected the proposal to allow the newco Rangers into the SPL. St Johnstone issued a statement reaffirming their intention to vote against the application from Green's consortium. "There has been a good deal of press speculation in advance of tomorrow's meeting of the SPL clubs with regard to how each club will cast their vote in relation to the newco Rangers application to join the SPL," it said. "For avoidance of doubt, the club's position remains as per the statement which was issued on Monday 25 June confirming that the club will not be supporting the application." Aberdeen, Dundee United, Hearts, Hibernian, Inverness Caledonian Thistle and St Mirren have also all previously stated that they will vote against, with Celtic, Kilmarnock and Ross County yet to make a firm commitment. Meanwhile, the Rangers Fans Fighting Fun has claimed that a poll of supporters showed that 75% of the club's fans would rather play in Division Three than accept a compromise deal for a place in Division One. Only 3% wanted to accept a place in Division One if it meant that sanctions were inherited as a result of the actions of the old Rangers, which is heading for liquidation. Even a place in Division One without sanctions only received the support of 20%. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon 1,121 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 661 voted in the Motherwell vote. We don't know how many voted in other polls, including our own. I am rather a big fan of democracy and I hope the fans will be given the opportunity to vote on important matters in the future, such as League reconstruction! Not a chance. Anyway, the whole thing is academic as the decision has been taken - SFL1 with sanctions. It is not as if this situation has crept up on them, is it? It is so shambolic it is actually embarrassing. Scottish football is a laughing stock. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigy 0 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 Then there's another question about what is democracy? If those 661 Motherwell fans attended every home game that's 12,500 tickets next season, which give or take is what we'll take to Motherwell in 2 games. So democratically the minority are getting to rule over the majority, which isn't very democratic at all. As you say though,t he SPL are an embarassment and we really need to take things away from them, take Division 1 off the table and make it clear it's the SPL or SFL3. That'll really sort out their positions and at least then we'll get a proper vote. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 661 voted in the Motherwell vote. We don't know how many voted in other polls, including our own. I am rather a big fan of democracy and I hope the fans will be given the opportunity to vote on important matters in the future, such as League reconstruction! Not a chance. Anyway, the whole thing is academic as the decision has been taken - SFL1 with sanctions. It is not as if this situation has crept up on them, is it? It is so shambolic it is actually embarrassing. Scottish football is a laughing stock. According to the Motherwell web site, 247 votes were not returned, which means there was a very high 73% turnout of the Trust Members, which I would say is democracy in action. 82% of those who voted, voted NO; which means that it was 60% of all members. There is a very high degree of correlation between the Supporters Direct Survey results, the Fans' Plan put forward in March/April and the SFA's own reconstruction plans; particularly from the point of view of play-offs, redistribution of monies, pyramid system etc. The only real area where there is disagreement is league size but that will happen eventually, possibly sooner than you might think. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54andcounting 0 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Fans voting on the future of Scottish football is a no-go for me unless they have a degree in economics, football fans are basically numbskulls when it comes to politics, so for 'sensible' chairman of SPL clubs to ask fans for their opinion and tell them their opinion counts reeks of bullshit. Now we are hearing these chairmen are considering postponing the vote...the fans DON'T get to say what's good (or bad) for the game. Simples. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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