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I cannot be alone, I think many Bluenoses took a great deal of joy from our european exploits these last few years. Beating teams with ten times our budget such as Mourinho's Fenerbache, Roses Dortmund and many others are great achievements and should be looked back on with pride. Winning in europe is something we have dared to dream about recently thanks to the players, managers and even board members who were involved.

So you never said this Success it has been in one area where we need it before going any further

So you never said this Success it has been in one area where we need it before going any further

It's not difficult to follow my rather simple argument.

Check this out. An unambiguous attempt to misrepresent my posts.

Check this out. An unambiguous attempt to re-frame what I said as something that I never said.

I have, but you refuse to answer as per usual. This board have taken us further from our objectives with every passing season, so they are a complete and utter failure. They have taken us to a state where we can't operate without loans despite our income rising to £95M. So it that respect they are a complete and utterly failure. The board themselves agree that without new investors the club won't move forward. I think they are a complete failure you don't, but offer no defence of evidence that they have not been a complete failure. The one "success" you claim hasn't helped us move forward, so therefore it's part of the overall failure.

Why not respond to something I posted? Admin will be after you.

So for clarity, we don't need success in Europe to move forward? It's just you made it sound soooooooo (sorry my needle was trapped in the groove, a wee dunt got it free) important

Complete amateurs in this department

I don't want to rephrase my dismissal of this unimportant question. I would just end up sounding like a vinyl disc which traps the needle in a single groove. That would be unbearable for almost everybody here.

That game last night was very enjoyable, the first time in a long, long time I have enjoyed a non Rangers game. It was almost like these guys were playing a different game to us, after what i watched at the weekend. Yamal's goal and Dumfries performance the highlights for me.

You were the one who claimed we can't move forward unless we are successful in Europe. I'll rephrase the quesrion ; In your opinion what parameters do we need to reach or breach in Europe to allow us to move forward?

Asking how many years is not important.

So why say it if it isn't important? You specifically said we must have European "success" before we can move forward. That's a significant claim, yet now its not important? So how many years of EL success would it take for us to move forward? 1, 2, 5, 10?

I just ignored that question because I don't think it is important enough to answer.

It could be argued that despite our EL "success" that we're further away from reaching our long-term objectives than we were when Pedro was manager. But, that's not "absolute" failure.

Yes pointless in the sense that despite our unmatched, herculean European success, we are not were we want to be. We have not reached our long term objectives.

I'll ask again, how many more seasons of European "success" is required for us to go any "further" ? success it has been in one area where we need it before going any further

One area where success is required, but not achieved, is player trading. The board have been stating this for a while.

So not pointless. Glad these posts have not been an absolute failure.

Run 😂 before he starts throwing.

Wait, you said and I quote success it has been in one area where we need it before going any further So how many more years success in Europe do we need before we go any further What areas? All the areas we currently fail in?

Apparently not.

Maybe time to review what I posted about him......