BrahimHemdani

Zenit, Bilbao, Galatasaray, Fenerbace, Milan, Eindhoven, Sparta Prague, Everton, marseille, Panathinaikos etc await.....

Frankie's post saying we are seeded in round 3 has disappeared so that that mean we aren't seeded?

AEL Limassol * Cyp 8.210 are not seeded in Q3 so although the draw is made before the 2nd round 2nd leg we would not be seeded if we beat them.

Could hardly have handpicked it better.

Obviously a conspiracy......

Can't argue with that draw at all...

Unless you want to argue with UEFA?

Please not Azerbaijan

Utrecht please!

I'm fairly sure the club said to wait until timings have been confirmed as dates could change, but I can't find the link.

Yes, club have said we should wait as the other team have referred the game to UEFA (i.e. a probable change of venue).

Fans should note that all fixture details and ticket information will be confirmed and communicated in due course on the club website and via our social media channels.

 

The away fixture location & date have not been confirmed & has been referred to UEFA by Niederkorn. Further updates will be circulated on our website & social media platforms when the information is available.

 

https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/gers-drawn-progres-niederkorn/

Thanks.

I went ahead and booked the flights as above GLA-LUX out on the Wed 5th back on the Sat 8th; hopefully only the venue might change to Luxembourg City, not the date. I think it's £60 to change with KLM which is insurance against the price going up which it certainly will do.

Draw v Q2 now taking place...

 

Please not Galatasaray...

For a whole number of reasons....

About to book KLM out Wed back Sat, £218; any chance the tie could be switched?

I see that if Linfield overcomes La Fiorita of San Marino, this month,

they will play Rasellik in Qualifying Rd 2

 

Group 3

Malmö (SWE) v Vardar (MKD)

Zrinjski (BIH) v Maribor (SVN)

Dundalk (IRL) v Rosenborg (NOR)

FH Hafnarfjördur (ISL) v Víkingur (FRO) or Trepça '89 (KOS)

Linfield (NIR) or La Fiorita (SMR) v Celtic (SCO)

IFK Mariehamn (FIN) v Legia Warszawa (POL)

 

!st tie to be played on 11 or 12 July (!!!)

Doubt Celtic will take tickets.

What time does that leave St Andrews Square?

On the hour every hour.

The #1 TICE bus connects Niederkorn with Differdange, Belvaux, and Esch-sur-Alzette.

Niederkorn is connected to Luxembourg City via a train line that stops in Berchem, Bettembourg, Noertzange, Schifflange, Esch-sur-Alzette, Belval Université, Belval Redange, Belvaux Soleuvre, Obercorn, and Differdange that ends in either Athus or Rodange.

Seb Faure plays for them...

Top team then.

Niederkorn, sometimes spelled Niedercorn, is a town in the commune of Differdange, in south-western Luxembourg. As of 2005, the town has a population of 3,044. The town lies on the Chiers river, from which it takes its name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niederkorn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Progr%C3%A8s_Niederkorn

The club has never won a game in European competition. Niedercorn's only managed two draws (and only one goal), the first was against Glentoran in the 1981–82 European Cup, where they drew 1–1; the second was against Shamrock Rovers in the 2015–16 UEFA Europa League.

During the German occupation of Luxembourg, the club played in the Gauliga Moselland under the name of FK Niederkorn, where it finished runners-up in 1942–43, behind champions TuS Neuendorf.

Three times domestic league winners, the club's most successful years were arguably in the end of the 1970s and beginning of the 1980s. They have not won any major silverware since their 1981 league title.

In the 2005–06 season, Niedercorn finished second in Luxembourg's second division, the Division of Honour. As the top league, the National Division, is expanding from twelve teams to fourteen, Niedercorn was promoted along with Differdange 03.

Rangers at home to Progrès Niederkorn (LUX) in the first leg of Q1

Where do they play?

Link not working for me, must be too many people on it.

We're seeded for the first round so it will only be for the 2nd, 3rd and playoff rounds where that could possibly happen. The Europa League rules are in a cycle from 2015/16 until the end of this season so I assume the coefficient stuff you highlight will remain in place if that happened in the last two seasons.

"Unseeded teams in the 1st qualifying round that qualify for the next round take effectively the coefficient of their opponent in the next round. The reason for this is that the draw for the 2nd qualifying round is made before the results of the 1st qualifying round are known."

Doesn't apply after that.

https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedel2017.html

Is it still the same arrangement when if Team A gets drawn against Team B (with Team B having a lower coefficient), and if Team B wins the round - that they would then assume the coefficient points which are held by Team A for the draw of the next round? I seem to recall that was how UEFA ran this now.

 

So in essence, if we can get drawn against betters team in the first & second round - if we can get past these rounds then we may have a decent shout of being seeded for the third round.

 

Will still be a real challenge to make the group stages.

No, that only works when two rounds are drawn together. It works for us in the 2nd round. We wouldn't be seeded in the 3rd round if we get there.

Be honest, BH, you lifted that from FF.

 

Seriously though, that's good stuff. I suspect you will have read "Count Belisarius" by Robert Graves. If not, away down to the library. Better still, buy it. Deserves to be on your shelves.

Thanks for the recommendation. I'm about to start on the abridged version of Douglas Southall Freeman's 4 volume biography of Lee; that'll keep me going for a while!

I saw the above on the free dictionary and thought the comparisons with ancient times were worth posting.

The Nika riots (Greek: Στάσις τοῦ Νίκα), or Nika revolt, took place over the course of a week in Constantinople in AD 532. It was the most violent riot in the history of Constantinople, with nearly half the city being burned or destroyed and tens of thousands of people killed. It remains today one of the world's deadliest ever riots.

Background

The ancient Roman and Byzantine empires had well-developed associations, known as demes, which supported the different factions (or teams) under which competitors in certain sporting events competed; this was particularly true of chariot racing. There were four major factional teams of chariot racing, differentiated by the colour of the uniform in which they competed; the colours were also worn by their supporters. These were the Blues, the Reds, the Greens, and the Whites, although by the Byzantine era the only teams with any influence were the Blues and Greens. Emperor Justinian I was a supporter of the Blues.

The team associations had become a focus for various social and political issues for which the general Byzantine population lacked other forms of outlet. They combined aspects of street gangs and political parties, taking positions on current issues, notably theological problems (a cause of massive, often violent argument in the fifth and sixth centuries) or claimants to the throne. They frequently tried to affect the policy of the emperors by shouting political demands between the races. The imperial forces and guards in the city could not keep order without the cooperation of the circus factions which were in turn backed by the aristocratic families of the city; this included some families who believed they had a more rightful claim to the throne than Justinian.

In 531 some members of the Blues and Greens had been arrested for murder in connection with deaths that occurred during rioting after a recent chariot race. Relatively limited riots were not unknown at chariot races, similar to the football hooliganism that occasionally erupts after an association football championship in modern times. The murderers were to be hanged, and most of them were. But on 10 January 532, two of them, a Blue and a Green, escaped and were taking refuge in the sanctuary of a church surrounded by an angry mob.

Justinian was nervous: he was in the midst of negotiating with the Persians over peace in the east, there was enormous resentment over high taxes, and now he faced a potential crisis in his city. Facing this, he declared that a chariot race would be held on January 13 and commuted the sentences to imprisonment. The Blues and Greens responded by demanding that the two men be pardoned entirely.

The Riots

On January 13, 532 a tense and angry populace arrived at the Hippodrome for the races. The Hippodrome was next to the palace complex and thus Justinian could watch from the safety of his box in the palace and preside over the races. From the start the crowd had been hurling insults at Justinian. By the end of the day, at race 22, the partisan chants had changed from "Blue" or "Green" to a unified Nίκα ("Nika", meaning "Win!" or "Conquer!"), and the crowds broke out and began to assault the palace. For the next five days the palace was under virtual siege. The fires that started during the tumult resulted in the destruction of much of the city, including the city's foremost church, the Hagia Sophia (which Justinian would later rebuild).

Some of the senators saw this as an opportunity to overthrow Justinian, as they were opposed to his new taxes and his lack of support for the nobility. The rioters, now armed and probably controlled by their allies in the Senate, also demanded that Justinian dismiss the prefect John the Cappadocian, who was responsible for tax collecting, and the quaestor Tribonian, who was responsible for rewriting the legal code. They then declared a new emperor, Hypatius, who was a nephew of former Emperor Anastasius I.

Justinian, in despair, considered fleeing, but his wife Theodora is said to have dissuaded him, saying, "Those who have worn the crown should never survive its loss. Never will I see the day when I am not saluted as empress." Although an escape route across the sea lay open for the emperor, Theodora insisted that she would stay in the city, quoting an ancient saying, "Royalty is a fine burial shroud," or perhaps, [the royal color] "Purple makes a fine winding sheet."

As Justinian rallied himself, he created a plan that involved Narses, a popular eunuch, as well as the generals, Belisarius and Mundus. Carrying a bag of gold given to him by Justinian, the slightly built eunuch entered the Hippodrome alone and unarmed, against a murderous mob that had already killed hundreds. Narses went directly to the Blues' section, where he approached the important Blues and reminded them that Emperor Justinian supported them over the Greens. He also reminded them that the man they were crowning, Hypatius, was a Green. Then, he distributed the gold. The Blue leaders spoke quietly with each other and then they spoke to their followers. Then, in the middle of Hypatius's coronation, the Blues stormed out of the Hippodrome. The Greens sat, stunned. Then, Imperial troops led by Belisarius and Mundus stormed into the Hippodrome, killing the remaining rebels.

About thirty thousand rioters were reportedly killed. Justinian also had Hypatius executed and exiled the senators who had supported the riot. He then rebuilt Constantinople and the Hagia Sophia, and was free to establish his rule. He was also free to pursue his ultimate dream of a united Roman Empire.

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Nika+riots

All of which is conclusive proof that football riots started as far back as AD 532 and Justinian was the original author of "No Surrender".

Anyone else having a problem with this? The system keeps going round in circles apparently thinking I am trying to buy more than one membership.

Perhaps I'm barred:facepalm:

Dear Season Ticket Holder,

Rangers will make their hugely-anticipated return to European competition in season 2017/18 and you can follow Pedro Caixinha’s new-look team by joining the Official Rangers Travel Club.

Season ticket holders – aged 16 and over – can sign up now for just £20 and there are three options available. Travel Club members can fly with Rangers Official European travel partner, travel independently or with their registered Rangers Supporters Club.

Supporters have a window of 1 June – 16 June to join and the Light Blues, who are seeded in the qualifiers, will find out their Europa League opponents in the draw which takes place in Nyon, Switzerland on Monday, 19 June.

The dates for the first qualifying round of the competition are 29 June and 6 July, the second qualifying round dates are 13 July and 20 July with the third and final qualifying round taking place on 27 July and 3 August.

Previous Travel Club member history from seasons 2010/11 and 2011/12 will be taken into consideration when tickets are allocated as it is important that the loyalty of the fans during those years is rewarded.

I am delighted to see there has been a change of heart on previous history. Last year the thinking was that it would not be taken into account but this would have been unfair to those of us who travelled to support the team in those years. I am pleased to see the Club is listening.

I'm off to Mexico to see if I can find some more players tomorrow so I'll put in my final tuppence worth.

I see no reason to change the rule from allowing posts up to the official kick off time, which worked well this past season.

Regular players, including previous winner, whatsthedado, SBS, compo and me all support "no change".

jfk who is in a time zone 5 hours behind objects to an earlier arbitrary cut off time.

It ain't broke so don't fix it.

So, let me get this straight. There's a polo shirt up for grabs for the winner, right?!? Does that mean that the winner of this polo shirt gets to walk around wearing something that advertises the fact that you've predicted Rangers to lose? Doesn't seem right to me. It might as well be green with white hoops. ;-)

It's a Prediction League, gaffer, not a love in.