Fury

Just under 1000 signatures in two days is "very poor"? Right you are.

Fantastic stuff mate. This in blog form anywhere for me to put out on Twitter?

There are reasons for the timing. If what Green says is accurate then a portion of the IPO money will be set aside for stadium improvements and Edminston House. Either/both of these could potentially incorporate a museum but are very unlikely to unless we raise it with the club. Also I think we felt that with our history still under attack in certain quarters it would make a clear statement that we have been here for 140 years and are not going anywhere. It's something we should have already - the fans, in my opinion, need to start making their voice heard.

Nothing "political" about it. If you want something then you need to show there is an interest. I would be much more comfortable raising the issue with the club if we can show that there is a will amongst the fans to make it happen. As Frankie said we are not demanding anything, just gauging opinion and making sure there is a case to present to the club. We'll be backing it up with some articles exploring the idea and can hopefully present a case to the club for consideration. The RFFF money should not be needed for legal expenses. The club should be paying those to defend our titles. I would not be against a small donation from the RFFF towards it but something like a museum can provide a lasting legacy and should be considered as a good use of that cash.

For my tuppence worth I can confirm everything Shane said about him not knowing about the first statement. I can't speak for the other guys at TRS but I wouldn't support putting our name to anything the USP come out with. I thought the first statement was ridiculous, inaccurate and divisive. I personally agree with the second, but TRS are a website not a group and I don't see why we would have our name on something like that. RU have had about 3-4 public digs at me now in their various statements and letters on their website. Some have just been inaccurate and some deliberately misleading. I've generally resisted the temptation to bite back although I've slipped a couple of times. How they can claim to be attempting to unite anything is beyond me. The Assembly are supposed to be the umbrella group for all the supporter organisations - something they have made clear on several occasions. I don't understand why we now have the self elected, corporately structured Rangers Unite making statements on their behalf but perhaps it will all become clear in time.

Ah right ok. So are they getting involved in the treatment if the fans in BF1 or the away fans being Section 60 searched? Be interested to hear what progress is being made because I'm doing a couple of articles on it.

I'm not exactly an expert on the various groups but can anyone tell me how this USP differs from the Working Group?

Happy to confirm that we told Charles Green in the meeting that if the supporters decided to purchase shares in some sort of collective fashion then they would have to be told exactly what the purchase offered and also what level of say it would give the fans over the running of the club.

I'm unsure. RU seem to want to pick a fight but frankly there are bigger issues at play than their ego. I have to say I don't like them releasing things full of inaccuracies though.

I'm honestly not sure what the board does. SD only have about 4 employees in Scotland. We have no contact with their board but if that is the case then fair enough.

I'm not sure how many of these I can allow to slide before I start hitting back. Is this really what Rangers Unite want?

One of the things about RU's petulant, toys out the pram, action last night is that it leads to speculation about something which isn't yet ready to be launched. SD are an advisory group who assist with fan ownership/investment in clubs. They don't hold money. Any money collected would be placed in an escrow account, administered by lawyers. It is 100% regulated by the FSA and 100% safe and fans can ask for it to be returned to them under the conditions of the scheme which they will know in advance. Also on some of your points above - SD have no say over the actions of individual trusts. It is not like a forum where a naughty member can be expelled so you're being a bit harsh to suggest they should police the behaviour of the odious individuals in other trusts. They actually have offered support for months but for varying reasons nothing has got off the ground. Also they have only recently started to receive the funding and political backing that they get in England. Hence why the majority of their successes have been down there. They are only now starting to become the same sort of organisation here that exists in England. Indeed even now a lot of the support that is being received is coming from England.

I'm not going to get into a slanging match with RU. I know they have people involved who are genuine in their wish to see things progress but I'm afraid that statement, apart from being badly written, is full of inaccuracies. The only group of people who have not been "transparent" through this process is RU and I'm afraid repeated requests for information have been met with silence. They had some good guys involved but several have stepped back or moved on and the guys who attended the meeting last night behaved in a disgraceful manner. I was going to pick through the statement piece by piece but since almost all of it is untrue and since the main motivation behind it seems to be to gain publicity I'm not going to bother at the moment. However, if they continue to bad mouth the process and make thinly veiled digs at people involved, including myself, then that might have to change. It's unfortunate that they could not be accommodated but it is also worth remembering that they have no members and represent nobody but themselves. The main fans groups are continuing to speak in an attempt to get something that can be presented to the main fanbase. It is not about secrecy it is about proper presentation of a workable plan. If people choose not to participate for whatever reason that is entirely up to them.

I've got an article in the Scotland on Sunday today on current situation with Regan and the SFA. Comments are unbelievable from the demented ones. http://www.scotsman.com/scotland-on-sunday/sport/rangers-newco-regan-s-success-is-to-unite-fans-in-calling-for-his-resignation-1-2399613

Don't think that would be the case. Sending out the renewals before any if this was known is just another sign of Green's desperation I think.

Thanks Frankie - just popped on to do that!

Sadly no payment. Free beer at STV and the chance to hob nob with Archie MacPherson are payment enough!

Cheers chaps and I appreciate the support but I'm just speaking as a fan who hopefully some other fans agree with. I don't have a position in any supporters groups and I'm not planning on changing that any time soon. As others have said I don't think it's possible to speak for the whole support and I'm not sure why anyone would try! ;-)

It certainly has Peter's stench all over it. The line about match fixing was so obviously for the media as to be laughable.

New blog is up looking at reasons behind SFA sanctions. http://chrisgraham76.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/sfa-decision-examined/

Also I'd like to add that I think Frankie should definitely have a shot at it! ;-)

I was before it but the STV people were really nice and it's not that bad if you block out the fact people are watching on TV! Only about 10 people in the room.

Cheers guys. There was literally nothing that I thought I could have pulled Spiers up on apart from his attempt to liken Miller to Whyte. Miller does have a business track record at least. As others have mentioned, I've rarely heard him say anything controversial on TV. Neil Patey was really interesting. He is quite clear that Miller's plan could work but he's not sure it will with regard to CVA hurdles. At least it is heartening to know that it's possible. It was a bit nerve racking but actually not as bad as a best man's speech I once had to do!

It's actually nothing like what Celtic did but it is identical to what Leeds did. I don't hear anyone saying they are not the same team. The only place this would happen is Scotland and it's mainly because there are a lot of people who are desperate to find any way to bring the club down.

New blog up: http://chrisgraham76.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/ticketus-and-the-blue-knights/