Blue Moon

There's also a company which owns shares in the company which owns the company which owns Ibrox.

Thanks, Zappa. I thought I was just getting to grips with it.

Thanks for answering guys. I really struggle with all of this but I am trying to keep up.

Why do they need a company to own a company?

https://www.rangersshareoffer.com/Prospectus.pdf

Ah so they are the old Sevco?

If so, why wouldn't they own the stadium etc?

Excuse my ignorance. I struggle with this financial stuff but who exactly are RIFC PLC? I am confused.

that's fine blue moon but it lacks any info on what he's been wrong about. if he had been wrong much someone would have given me examples by now I imaging.

gs, I would love to have time to do this for you but unfortunately I don't.

I do not think I have the inclination either, but if you have the time could you show me something good he has said about the club ?

I'm assuming their is a long list of things he's got wrong about rangers given people's reactions but I don't have Twitter.

 

so I'm looking at his record this week and wondering why people think he'd wrong.

 

is it wishful thinking or is he often wrong?

I have been following most of what he says both on Twitter and here. I don't follow him any more because I wouldn't give him the oxygen but many of the people I do follow, follow him. You are certainly not a stupid person , so I can only assume you are at the windup here by asking what AT has done wrong. I actually cannot believe that Channel 4 continue to give this guy a platform to indulge himself.

I can be trusted to portray both sides.

No you can't

But I don't see why it needs to be anti Green if it is representative of Gersnet. Ask searching questions yes.

Thanks for giving me this opportunity bluedan.

I would also like to hear why the youth development seems to be going so badly.

Absolutely not for me.

Couldn't stand it when he was manager. Very negative tactics.

Would be the worst sort of backward step.

Doncaster is so disingenuous and gets away with it. No-one is prepared to challenge him.

"These proposals will give the fans what they want" is utter tosh. The fans want most of all not to play one another 4 times a year and to remove the fear factor which is suffocating our game. So what do we get?

I didn't want us to sign Sandaza, Kyle or Black and said so last summer. Templeton was the only one of those 4 players I thought we should be signing and even he has slightly disappointed me to be honest because while he's a cracking wee player he seems to lose possession far far too often. McKay does too, but he's still learning and will hopefully improve that side of his game. I remember Weiss getting absolutely hammered for losing possession too often and supposedly 'flattering to deceive', but Templeton seems even worse than Weiss was. Anyway, I still like Templeton as a player, I just think he needs to work on the ball retention and passing to a team mate aspects of his game and he'll be sound.

I felt the same about Black and Kyle and at the moment they have yet to prove me wrong. I will reserve judgement on Sandaza for a wee while yet. I was delighted about Templeton and atm I think he is perhaps trying too hard.

I remember when we bought these SPL players being surprised and excited we were buying what I thought were decent players. My optimism was sky high and I looked forward to a bright future of a new era built on skill, attacking football and giving youth a chance. There were many on here who were optimistic that we could win a cup or two.

I don't know all the inside information necessary to come to a conclusion about where we've gone wrong, whether it is the players attitudes, management decisions, poor coaching, the manager losing the dressing room or whatever. But I have no doubt things have not gone according to plan and what we are seeing on the pitch is way below what my expectations are. I cannot fathom out what is going on tactically and why we persistently play these formations clearly unsuited to the personnel, why we play so many players out of position, why we play so negatively against teams we should be walloping and why the players look a shadow of their former selves. I am looking for us to go forward, to make progress and play attractive, passing football. I am not looking for the moon, just for the basics to be right so that we can build on them.

Interesting to listen to JT on Clyde on the players. He was basically saying it was the best we could get at the time. Individually the SPL players are good enough in an SPL team but collectively they are not good enough.

Chris Graham has said what, dB? Are you talking about the Chairman and CEO?

Have to agree with you, gs.

It is uncomfortable reading.

Is that why they have made us "associate" members then? Out of respect.

Yes it is.

That doesn't really concern us at the moment, or in the foreseeable future. I think we have much more important battles to finish a bit closer to home. We wont get thrown out of eca because we give this meeting a miss. Our expenses sheet will make for an interesting read next year. No wonder we are losing money. Are any other div 3 clubs present at this meeting? Doubt it.

Edit;

Aye, are they paying for the flight to Australia too, and all related expenses?

By including us at the meeting as one of the founding clubs, ECA are recognising we are the same club as before. They could have snubbed us due to our lowly status but have treated us with respect. For me this is not insignificant.

he wont ever go to celtc.

What makes you say that because I suspect he would.

"We don't do walking away" will be used against us for ever more. We better get used to it.

My reply would be "sporting integrity".

we should be chasing danny wilson like mad but i cant see us getting him.

No chance. He didn't want to play for us when we were in the SPL.

Is that directed at me personally or a general comment? I've maybe gone pretty far the last couple of days but that's more a letting off steam reaction to such an awful match. Overall while i'm not a big fan of Ally the manager I think i'm pretty reasonable about it.

Certainly since yesterday it has been pretty ott in general.

we've 14 SFL3 games left this season. After that a decision needs to be taken regards Ally and his staff. This cannot be avoided

Wanted to say "thanks" but it has disappeared.

Anyway, to cover my tracks and get back on topic.

The boycott is over, some folk broke it, let's move on and save our energy for our real enemies.

not sure why when it is relevant to just about every subject. the matter cannot be swept aside or ignored. its a huge talking point.

Yes but how many different ways does it need to be said and how many times?

I have major doubts about the management team but I don't want to talk about it morning, noon and night.

It is repetitive, dull and depressingto peddle the same stuff ad nauseam.

There was widespread talk of boycotts back in April before Green was even known of, the merits of it can be discussed without bringing him into it.

 

The facts are you have a self confessed agenda and have to try and pollute every thread with it, despite they're being plenty of platform to air your grievances without doing that.

Such irony. There are far more people on here with an anti Ally agenda that do exactly the same thing. It's fair enough to say the manager can't cut it but to do it relentlessly is spoiling the forum for me.