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of course it is. its embarassing watching people trying to sugarcoat it.

maximum 300k fee. paid 2.5m for him.

i couldnt disagree more. i think both have underachieved heavily.

only to be met with complete and utter disappointment and anger that we didnt even have the balls take part in the final itself. that night confirmed everything i had ever thought about walter as a manager.

advocaats record was poor too and he was outspending most european teams at the time. i always say advocaat was just another murray mistake.

when is the last time celtic took a pumping? utrecht was 2 seasons ago, their team has grown and improved since then. you say the "norm now" but mention bratislava which was 7 years ago, a long long time ago, not "now" as you say. they are unbeaten in their last 4 european away matches and have hardly conceded a goal. tarring everyone with the same scottish football brush is wrong. no one is asking for glory days, just the ability to compete 11 men against 11. all too often we cannot even do that. we are better than our record suggests, we have badly underachieved in europe in the last 20 to 25 years years and it is no coincidence that our longest serving manager during that time is the man in question above, undoubtedly a club legend but a poor football manager in my mind. 2 decent runs in europe during that period for the worlds most successful club and one of the worlds greatest clubs is disgraceful. some of the utter dross we have lost to on the european stage over the years has been terrible. heading off topic a bit here. apologies to admin for that.

what state of affairs? we had a huge squad with some outstanding players. what state? the real problems kicked in the year after.

i have yet to meet any rangers fan who was not embarrassed or disgusted by the defeats to kaunas and unirea not to mention strasbourg, aek, gothenburg, prague, auxerre, levski, osasuna all those embarassing defeats to financially weaker opposition. all under the same manager. shocking.

it is indeed, walters european record was dreadful and as a club our record is unacceptable.

http://www.gersnetonline.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?46463-wallace-scan-tmrw ties in with what my wee bro told me the other night.

how many of those was walter in charge of mate? he has a disgustingly embarassing european record.

i dont see the significance or the scandal here. no biggy.

why is mclaughlin always first with the news on rangers? he is as bitter a tim as you will find.

very interesting and very welcome. heres hoping.

we need players quick. another defender, 2 wide midfielders and another striker.

i remember playing against annan a few years back, i was up agianst davie irons and i gave him a torrid time. lol he said i played very well after the match when we shook hands. i always remember that game because of a group of old men standing watching at the sidelines shouting all sorts of abuse at me! haha and davie telling me just to ignore them, if i was rubbish they wouldnt bother with me he said! that ground will be a culture shock to our players, it was basically a public park.

fleck was on closer to 7k per week, ness on 5 with his new deal. without a word of a lie. again, same solid source. martin bain felt he had to give fleck a bumper deal when his and wilsons contracts were running out with both threatening to walk out on the club.

he sure is.

not a fan of kirk stb?

as one of the lowest earners he would have took the smallest cut. i believe and this is even more incredible, john fleck was on more the maurice.

lee is up at saughton park with his mens amatuer team tonight, he is the manager apparantly! speaking to my wee brother said he doesnt know how long he will be out, is having a scan tmrw. lets hope it it not too serious.

yes. from a solid source mate.

i dont know, it just comes across like that from some of the comments about it.

no, every big club should have one. barcelona have them all over spain, celtic have one at glasgow, i imagine some other clubs will have them. we want to be a big club, lets act like one. i think it is a brilliant move by the club.

it will noise up the tims to some tune and those in our support who said we dont need one so for that reason alone, i am happy, delighted in fact.