CammyF

Maybe we should sing a few hymns and say the lords prayer just to annoy/confuse the bigots that call themselves "prods".

But Calscot, the hymns we would be singing are Christian hymns and that would be offensive to the non-Christians in Scotland...

UEFA would ban Onward Christian Soldiers (marching as to war) as it depicts ancient battles (which outdate The Boyne) and celebrate Christian slaugthers of non-Christians

Cammy F

Frankie, what we need now is leadership from the above mentioned fan groups and more importantly the club.

In banning the Billy Boys (and FTPing) Ranger should now issue a second statement, signed by TBO and RST etc saying that whilst these songs are banned, we will no longer accept people attacking our heritage - by that I mean Rangers saying that no other songs or flags will be banned.

David Murray has allowed this to happen as he has copntinually allowed the press to stick the boot into us. Even the dead aren't safe from the parasites in the media. David Murray MUST now state this this is the line in the sand and that any journalist that wrongly slates Rangers, prints half-truths and lies will be punished.

What us the fans need to do is unite - as our enemies want us divided. But IMO its RFC and the fans groups that need to lead and unite us, they have the 'membership' and the outlets to be the driving force along with the club.

Cammy F

We should try and change the lyrics, I wouldn't like the tune to go alltogether as it can be very rousing.

Agreed - I voted change the lyrics

Cammy F

Kiev

Leeds

Juventus (2-0 to Rangers)

Cammy F

What about away trips tho? sure we can ban it at Ibrox, but this wont stop fans singing it away from home where the club cant control the fans. What implications could this have and if we realy do want it stopped completely, how do we do it?

I fear that it will take Rangers being docked points (or worse punishment) for it to stop completely. I hope I am wrong, but I can see this song being belted out next season and UEFA inflicting serious punishments.

I have stopped singing the 'Billy Boys' for over 2 years now and sing 'Hello Hello we are the Rangers boys, hello hello you'll know us by our noise. We follow Glasgow Rangers our hearts both strong and true, for we are the people who cheer the boys in blue'....

However, given this statement, I'll even refrain from singing that version.

Cammy F

The reason the tune has been banned is that even if 95% of the Rangers fans sing the official version, there will be some who continue to sing the 'up to our kness in fenien blood'.

Remember about 3 years ago we stopped playaing simply the best due to the add-ons, it has reappeared since without the add-ons. Maybe, just maybe the 'Rangers Boys' can make a comeback - but at the moment far too many would contiune to sing the line above leading Rangers to be PUNISHED ....

Do we really want Rangers to be docked points, have stands closed or thrown out of Europe? Do we really love a song about a neo-nazi gangster more than we love Rangers?

BTW, you can continue to sing the Billy Boys in your house, in the pub, on your RSC, in your car, on the streets - just not at Ibrox.

Cammy F

Rangers have been ordered to make a public announcement at all of their home games prohibiting the chanting of the song "Billy Boys".

The instruction comes from Uefa as one of a number of directives aimed at stamping out sectarianism.

Rangers were fined £13,000 for the sectarian behaviour of their fans at a recent Champions League match.

And Rangers chairman David Murray has already met with supporters groups to make sure their fans comply.

The Rangers Assembly, fanzine and website Follow Follow and the Supporters Trust were all represented at the Murray Park meeting on Thursday evening.

Murray said: "These supporters' groups represented should be applauded for coming forward in recognition of the importance of this issue. All parties are united in a bid to silence the minority that continue to tarnish the reputation of Rangers Football Club

Rangers statement

"I am delighted at the progress we made.

"Over the last two years, the club has strove fervently under the banner of 'Pride over Prejudice' working with the authorities to impose indefinite and lifetime bans.

"I look forward in the coming weeks to implementing some of the actions that were discussed.

"It is absolutely clear to all concerned that all supporters need to commit to silencing the minority."

The meeting followed receipt of Uefa's written grounds for fining Rangers following the tie against Villarreal.

Uefa also ordered Rangers to "anounce measurable targets in order to reduce sectarian behaviour amongst its supporters".

And it instructed the Glasgow club to prove the success of its measures through statistics communicated to the public.

Rangers have warned that their fans must comply to "avoid sanctions being imposed or expulsion from European competition altogether".

"A positive debate was held at Murray Park and all parties are united in a bid to silence the minority that continue to tarnish the reputation of Rangers Football Club," it was stated on the club website.

A joint committe has been formed between the club and supporters groups.

And a statement from the fans' bodies read: "The message now could not be clearer that the spotlight is upon the supporters and the club and it is their duty to work together to stamp out the minority who are damaging the reputations of all those connected with Rangers Football Club.

"Not only does this small minority tarnish the reputation of Rangers but of Scottish football and our society in general and hopefully anyone who is interested in Scottish football will work with us in assisting to eradicate this behaviour."

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There you have it folks, backed by TBO, RST, Follow Follow, RSA - Murray is going to act on fans who continue to sing The Billy Boys.

Also, what else can't be clearer is if we continue to sing The Billy Boys UEFA will act and we will be BANNED from European touriments.

Cammy F

big names like Borussia Mönchengladbach?

I'll get ma coat

That is why i hope they do start the nonsense. The "English Media" Claim that they have weeded out all the thugs yet days before the WC England "fans" fighting already. I have a friend from loughbourgh who knows some of the thugs and they have already organised fights in Germany. the Italians will be involved as well.

 

BigHolly Tartan Army Loyal

As will the Dutch, Germans, South Americans, Croatians etc, etc

Cammy F

Luca Toni IMO

Ditto.

Cammy F

The dressing room follow follow is magic!!

aye... THE FUCKIN CRAPTIC KNOW ALL ABOUT THEIR TROUBLES...

Cammy F

.... and proud to say I was one of them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehH4fAfn2VE&search=glasgow%20rangers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajACMK3PqHY&search=glasgow%20rangers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfedYPqCuyA&search=glasgow%20rangers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOAehiqchb0&search=glasgow%20rangers

Cammy F

Some great Rangers memories - http://www.youtube.com/results?search=rangersloyal&search_type=search_videos&search=Search

Cammy F

I dont see the song being of any relevance but it hasnt got much to do with football especially at the greatest specticle of them all - The World Cup

But will it be the only song sung at the World Cup that has little or no relevance to football or the world cup?

If Scotland were at the WC and the TA sang Doh A Deer would that be offensive? Has nowt to do with football.....

Just can't believe that the English media find a song AGAINST an organisation that murdered its citizens offensive.

Cammy F

Know a girl on holiday in Bulgaria just now, loads of English, Scots and Germans there.

 

She walked into a pub last night an there were two English fans fighting, no-one else. Even she said she had to walk straight out an couldnt blame anyone else.

 

All the bad press we used to get and for years the English have been the worst hooligans out of all the home nations......media.....if english, then its someone elses fault!

So are you saying that the song IS offensive just because its the English that are singing it?

Cammy F

Celtic have a friendly at stamford bridge on Aug 9th so I imagine season will start quite soon after that

That friendly is midweek and after the start of the season. I am sure it is the date for the CL qualifying round.

There is still confusion surrounding this friendly as Chelsea play Feyenoord in Rotterdam the previous evening (according to the Feyenoord official site)..

Cammy F

Just heard on the radio there that England fans have been singing 'offensive songs' in Germany. The reporter went on to say after a 'rousing rendition' of GSTQ they burst into the 'offensive' 'No Surrender To The IRA'....

So who would be offended by England (or any fans for that matter) singing 'No Surrender To The IRA'? Would it be any less / more offensive if they were singing 'No Surrender To Al Quada'?

Cammy F - Sing It Loud and Sing It Proud Loyal RSC

Quick admin.... someone's hacked into Cammy's account.

OK, went a bit OTT with the tennis....!!

As the song goes, I don't like cricket, no - I love it....

And once the world cup finishes, the England flag of St george can be given back to its rightful owners, the far right

Cammy F

Is it starting tomorrow, I'd never have known

Can't wait till its over and Wimbledon and the cricket starts

Cammy F

See thats how i was askin because if you turn me twice i'm lost:D

LOL - same here, I am OK with directions as long as I am directed by pubs and football grounds......

Famously went to pick Del up on the way to Aberdeen. He lives in deepest, darkest East Fife and I ended up in Norway

I'll let you know how were are getting there GersFem as we could swing past Whitburn (but I'm no stopping!) if we are driving.

Cammy F

Apparently so:D

 

Anyway thats fine Frankie, i will wait the now and you can let me know all the arrangements. How are yous getting thru?

Don't ask Del to give you a lift - you'll get lost on the 'snowbound' M8

Cammy F

As long as nobody is going to accuse me trying to steal their husbands or boyfriends

Tramp....

Still trying to get final numbers from the Cammy Household - may be 1, 2 or 3 - god help yous...

Cammy F - Will We Bring Along Our 'French Flag' Loyal RSC

MrsC has just called and informed me that JJB Falkirk have never heard of a Rangers top without 'Carling' on it. Despite the fact that they are advertising this on their website and it is available at the new Superstore

Oh dear, I suppose we sholuld have expected 'teething problems'

Cammy F

Ive got a grip of myself mate, this place is dead enough without stopping transfer rumour threads.

Acht well, my mate just texted me and said Beckham, Rooney and Gerrard are flying back from Germany today and will be paraded at Ibrox before jetting back to rejoin the England squad for their WC opener on Saturday.

Was going to keep this information to myself, but since this place is dead, thought you all would like to share

Cammy F

He sure has. Seen him outside Ibrox before the oldfirm game this year and never even recognised him

Saw him Macro just before the Ted McMinn testimonial and it was MrsC that recognised him - she said 'thats Alan McLaren' and I was like, 'no it can't be' - but it was

Cammy F