Devil's advocaat

29 minutes ago, Bill said:

Is there any way of backing up that claim?

By using your eyes.

Look at the conditioning of your average top level footballer now. You don't get tone like that unless you work bloody hard and manage your diet correctly. You rarely see a footballer now without a 6 pack, back in the 60s you rarely seen one with one.

All professional sports, and the once amateur sports like athletics, have moved on significantly in terms of fitness. Player never even used to do any other training apart from ball work and running, whereas we now know that strength conditioning is key along with cardio work.

Joe Garner was on £18k a week, I know that for a fact. You can take it from that, that we'll have many more players over your £25k limit.

Yes, exactly. People think it was about fitness, wrongly.

21 minutes ago, compo said:

Lets not kid ourselves footballers of today wouldn't know what a day's hard work is .

Work, that's a broad word, but if you mean training, our players are far fitter than those that played during the Gullane days, no question.

Naw, I know, you played to a pretty decent level if I recall correctly, so know what I mean!.

36 minutes ago, ian1964 said:

However why does the likes of Matondo for instance not get the same treatment

I think he's shown on a few occasions that he offers a lot more than Lammers.

Tbh I'd rather we didn't give anyone such treatment, it hardly inspires them, folk howlin abuse at you when your confidence is already low.

The Tillman example is not representative of the loans we've had over the years, he helped us into the CL and we might get a few bob from a future sale, but the vast, vast majority of loan players haven't paid off in this manner.

16 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

We need to bring in players to help us win the league.  Loans are inevitable, particularly in January but we hear the same groans every year. 

 

I think some folk are still stuck in the 90s.

Not sure what you mean by 90s. Lots of folk moaning about paying circa 5M for a 28 year old Scotsman cos he's 'no sell on' value, but quite happy to spunk big wages on players that won't be here in 5 months.

January is a tough window, and loans are inevitable, but no one can be happy with our 3 main strikers being other clubs players. If they win us the league, I'll be a two faced bastard though, hey ho! 😄

24 minutes ago, Uilleam said:

All on loan, of course

That's quite depressing.

I smell shite.

Where's it from, there's a shed load of dreadful Rangers 'outlets' on social media that post any old shite for clicks.

Desailly and Boksic both in that Marseille team as well, both absolute class.

29 minutes ago, 26th of foot said:

eater of the boiled ham raw

Not to forget the wooden haddie

Aye, agreed. I took my father in law as a wee xmas present just after new year, stadium tour first, then the museum, absolutely superb value and the aul fella loved it. Tour guide was excellent, Billy was his name but I never caught his surname, sure I recognised him from somewhere.

Can't recommend it enough.

1 hour ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

I'd pay that 6 million for Sima tbh

Agreed.

3 minutes ago, Fa1833 said:

Is there even such players these days in the market who can stay injury free for that long? 

Of course there are, but injuries can happen to anyone, at any time. 

9 hours ago, Fa1833 said:

This is when we signed Porrini wasn’t it ? He  only played a few times for us similar to what’s happening now with Barasic and Ridvan can’t remember the preferred one though. 
 

that’s him Gregory Vignal he was preferred to Porrini I believe 

No, vignal was after porrini. Big Sergio played a decent amount of games, are you perhaps mixing him up with someone else?.

7 hours ago, Fa1833 said:

 

Conte was a lovely footballer as well, De Livio a live wire. 

I loved Vialli, a fantastic striker.

31 minutes ago, Malangsob said:

Cause he is a step down in quality from Ridvan.

 

He is very much SPFL quality. 

That's just silly talk.

No sadly, I'd love to have seen him.

Ronaldinho played against us for PSG IIRC?. Hadnt reached greatness yet, was quite young.

Players that I've left Ibrox thinking I never realised how good they actually were.

Gaizka Mendietta

Lilian Thuram

Diego Forlan

We knew how good Alessandro Del Piero was, but he still roasted us.

Conor Barron for me please, believe he's available on a free. 

31 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

Clement and the board will decide.

 

If Hearts demand £5m, I think we'd be nuts to pay.  Nothing is pre-proven in football (Hearts don't play against defensive set-ups the way we have to, for starters).  

Yup, but they also have nowhere near as good players as we do, to supply him.

No one is guaranteed goals of course, but he's about as close as you'd get in our league.

I'm not sure mate, sorry, I suppose it'll depend on how far Senegal go. Looking at their squad I'm not sure he'll feature much anyway, so hopefully he'll come back fresh.