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On 03/10/2022 at 11:12, buster. said:

 

Against English opponents,....

We have Won 3, Drawn 4 and Lost 7

Goals For 11, Against 20

 

When you consider that two of those three victories came against Leeds in 92 and the other was in 1961, it is a shocking record. In the CL group stage, we have played Manchester United twice and kept the wrong kind of zero in all 4 matches.

 

So, all this talk that the Battle of Britain effect levels the playing field,......at club level, the results don't really back it up.

 

That solitary competitive victory on English soil against Leeds can be increased to three*, if counting two play off victories at Highbury against Sparta Rotterdam (1960) and Red Star Belgrade (1964).

 

*Not including any FA Cup away wins in 19th century.

We have actually played English opposition competitively 24 times if you discount the early FA cup ties.

Including Coronation Cup,  Texaco Cup, Tennent Caledonian Cup and Anglo Scottish Cup.

The overall picture is no better though. 

P24  W6  D5  L13

Slight improvement including the FA cup

P28  W9  D5  L14

30 minutes ago, the gunslinger said:

Yup SKY now own all 228 games. Until 2029 

 

A rise in payment that won't even keep pace with inflation. 

 

Brutal. 

Did they employ a consultant to broker the deal? Same as they did with cinch.

If so thats another mill or so brown enveloped 

50 minutes ago, forlanssister said:

The landed gentry speaketh!

Humble crofter

6 hours ago, Scott7 said:

You disappoint me, sir. Out on Doric’s western frontier, we uncouth folk speak about a baldy heid. I thought that in the leafy boulevards of the Broch glabrous pate was common parlance.

Don't be fooled by @forlanssisterand his fancy wordies.

He's from Peterheid and rough as a badgers arse.

I'm little better, but at least I don't cherry pick a thesaurus before posting 

7 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

“glabrous pate”! On a football discussion board! By God, this place is intellectual.

 

Conjures up a vision of Friar Tuck.

I had to look that up.

As, I suspect,  did he.

18 minutes ago, forlanssister said:

And my Personal Shopper couldn't be arsed to take it back to Ibrox for a refund 

No much wonder,  you asked me to take it back, get refund, put on a burka and sunglasses, go back in and buy it again. 

1 minute ago, buster. said:

 

Yogi Bear doesn't seem to capture this last part, nor does he seem able to interpret 'the bleeding obvious'.

Dave King propaganda 

Bleeding obvious. 

14 minutes ago, Malangsob said:

No supporters...no Rangers.

 

Perhaps Rangers fans should pull that card?

 

It's a two way street. 

 

 

 

There is a legitimate argument.

 

However, until people start keeping their wallet in their pocket...

 

I have personally seen that happen.

 

Reynolds Razorback Stadium holds 75,000.

 

I went to a game that had 15,000.

 

Shit changed quick after that. 

 

Money talks. 

Was John Greig their manager at the time?

22 hours ago, PoohBear said:

My fear with this postponement is that we've already had the stats that this is the first time we've conceded 4 goals in two successive games since 1982, when was the last time we conceded 4 goals in 3 successive games? Napoli don't look like pushovers here...

1982, it was actually 3 games we conceded 4 goals if you count a 2-4 defeat to Southampton in a testimonial friendly that was sandwiched between the 2 Aberdeen games.

We did manage to score 3 goals in those end of season disasters unlike our current run of 11 with no reply. 

Anyway, to answer your question,  technically we have never conceded 4 or above in 3 consecutive competitive games.

But If we consider friendly ties, it has occurred twice.

August 1902

3rd Lanark 2-4  (league)

Hibs 1-4 (F)

Separate Entity  2-7 (F)

December + Jan, 1888/89

Morton 2-7 (F)

Blackburn Rovers 2-6 (F)

Abercorn 1-6 (F)

14 hours ago, 26th of foot said:

Top of the head stuff.

 

I have witnessed four Rangers - Ajax Euro games. The very first Super Cup in 1973 was a two legged final. We lost 3-2 in Amsterdam and 1-3 at Ibrox for a 3-6 defeat on aggregate. The third and fourth were Champions League mid-nineties, we lost 4-1 in the Amsterdam Arena and 0-1 at Ibrox.

 

I have attended two Rangers - Liverpool friendlies lost both 0-2 and 0-4.

 

I cannot remember any games with Napoli.

 

Thus, we are buggered. Give us the dosh.

Beat Napoli  5-2 Ibrox friendly 1958.

Liverpool away, thrice

1899 , win 2-0

Later same year, loss 2-3

1924, win 2-0

Overall 10 friendlies against the burglars.

W4, D2, L4

 *1924 was billed as unofficial British championship. 

6 games against the cloggies.

4 competitive defeats

1 friendly win  and 1 friendly draw 

More emails to delete too

40 minutes ago, Bill said:

I said I wouldn't buy or wear anything that promotes gambling. That's not "moaning", it's a matter of principle that I'm asking no one else to share. Nor have I condemned anyone for doing what I wouldn't do. Each to his own.

My mistake, I could have chosen the wording of my comments much better.

Nevertheless may I enquire,  would you buy a shirt if the sponsorship were an alternative to gambling?

I wouldn't, too old and fat.

4 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

Perhaps, however i don't think there is much associated service to be provided with the partnerships we have with the likes of BOXT, 32 red or black rooster.

 

The catering deal and merchandising - 100% service based but should have a dedicated head of service along with matchday tickets and hospitality.

 

Fair enough, but others were moaning about adverts on shirts not me.

I suspect the majority of those offended by the nature of our sponsors wouldn't buy a top anyway.

Partnerships and sponsorships may very well be flourishing under Bisgrove,  I have no idea if they could be better, or if he's maximising to the utmost. 

Its the other retail areas that both affect and concern me.

A recent example,  @forlanssisterand I visited the Rangers store in Belfast,  now I'm always up for buying memorabilia and club related merchandise, but I walked out empty handed. There was nothing to be purchased save sports gear, sized and designed for a much younger and athletic version of Gaspard.

As I mentioned, HSV are a great example of football club retail, superb range, reasonable prices and efficient service.

55 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

Depends what his remit is. His focus (IMO) seems to be revenue in and not service based. 

Would have thought everything he is responsible for has some sort of associated service?

1 hour ago, buster. said:

It is one thing some saying that James Bisgrove/Rangers commerce..... is doing an excellent job.

I don't know if he was a driving force brokering the Australian insanity,  but I do know his response to the fans reaction demonstrated how out of touch he is with the grass roots of the club.

Our retail is still miles behind where it should be.

Have a look at our online shop, then compare us to Hamburg. 

Visit any of our shops, they are Castore outlets not RFC.

The catering at the concessions has been dire for years, an under exploited revenue stream, and the change of provider sadly looks like an opportunity missed.

Is Bisgrove doing a good job?

Well, its very difficult to improve a brand and increase sales and revenue in a competitive environment, however when you have a customer base that are completely captive, will not defect to a rival brand and will often forgive poor service and product due to blind loyalty, then the task should become much easier. 

On 22/07/2022 at 23:27, forlanssister said:

 

On 22/07/2022 at 23:27, forlanssister said:

 

Anyway Albert Bruce is ahem one of them.

Incorrect

Wrong bro

7 hours ago, Scott7 said:

If I’m invited I’ll bring one of my slaves to taste the food for poison.

"Your Grace, I feel I've been remiss in my duties. I've given you meat and wine and music, but I haven’t shown you the hospitality you deserve."

LORD WALDER SIGNALS FOR THE MASSACRE TO BEGIN

2 hours ago, PoohBear said:

Scottish nationalists can also be Rangers fans.

 

I've never heard McFarlane claim he's a bear, he's pretty open that he's a Hibs fan.

So the self proclaimed daily record Rangers Blogger is a staunch spoon burner?

Fill yer boots laddie

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

As someone who takes a pew every week, I think the CoS becoming a "broad church" is way down the list of reasons for pews being empty. 

As do I.

Not going to debate here though,  

Transfer thread so think we've deviated from the topic

43 minutes ago, Devil's advocaat said:

Rangers is a broad church, we don't, and are not forced to, all think the same way. It's one of the many things that make us great.

 

Other clubs may differ.

The CoS became a broad church, now the pews are empty.

3 hours ago, PoohBear said:

Not sure what you're watching him on but he's a Hibs fan not a Rangers fan. He seems pretty reasonable whenever I've listened to him, the record rangers podcast wasn't actually that bad in the past.

He's a scotch nationalist so cannot possibly be a Rangers fan.

He pretends to be for his own mercenary reasons just like every other seditious attention seeking imposter claiming to be a bear whilst championing the jock republicans and their IRA comrades. 

14 minutes ago, Bill said:

With respect, you're complaining about something that was neither said nor, I'm sure, intended. No one has disrespected those men in any way at all, or their achievements. Quite the reverse. The comment was about endlessly repeating a merchandising exercise that has already been conducted on so many previous occasions for anyone to see, when there are so many other ways to keep their memories alive. That said, I was at the game in Barcelona and you do have a point about the age and inevitable passing of these heroes.

Lost me there, not sure what I commented on that wasn't relevant to the quoted post. With respect, I think you may be reacting to your own interpretation of my post and back pedaling somewhat.

You say there are many other ways to keep memories alive, well we have a movie, a dinner, a book and another few bits and bobs available to those who wish to purchase. That’s got your knickers in a twist apparently, so what do you suggest would be appropriate for the 50th anniversary? Please bear in mind the players are getting a cut from all the merch and the dinner.

I would suggest that the folk buying the items are older bears who can afford to do so.

The relentless release of overpriced Castore tops and training gear, that hard pushed parents feel compelled to buy, is, for me a greater moral issue if we are discussing merchandise bombardment.

23 hours ago, Tannochsidebear said:

Much like "them" and 1967, does anyone lese feel it a little overdone? While it is the highlight of our history, must we bang on about it so often? A new film, a new range of merch, another celebration dinner. I was at the 25th anniversary dinner, the 30th, 35th, etc but at some point surely we say enough now and move on. 

 

I reckon I am very much in the minority here but I have seen and heard enough about Barcelona '72 to last a lifetime. I have just turned 51 myself so all my life I have had this retold and retold. It would have been one of the massive bonuses for me if we had managed to beat Frankfurt, that we could finally have consigned all the '72 stuff to history for good.

 

I truly believe our achievement in getting to the finals in '08 and '22 were far harder and far greater achievements than winning 5 ties against fellow cup-winners. That is of course debatable, and the ultimate aim is to win and of course we came up short on both these ocassions.

If you don't like something don't participate,  did you buy any of the merchandise that annoys you so much? 

The team that triumphed 50 years ago have already lost players, how many will still be around for the 60th anniversary?

We should be honoured to join them and commemorate our only Euro achievement, future bears will not have that opportunity. 

Or maybe we should just celebrate games you can remember. 

54 minutes ago, forlanssister said:

IIRC the increased capacity is not all in hospitality and will include some bog standard Govan Rear seats.

Interesting,  I thought the govan upper rear would lose standard seats