BrahimHemdani 1 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 But why sell Jelavic if administration/liquidation are possible depending upon the outcome of the HMRC case , it just means that anymoney goes straight to the administrator That's a very fair point and one that I have discussed with a number of people. However, if we do go into administration then effectively HMRC will get all the assets except the ground, i.e. the players and sell any that they can and just retain enough to fulfil the fxitures. So in that scenario it doesn't really matter. BUT, if we win the case, then we need money for the wages, so........ I hope I'm wrong but they can't eek out the season ticket money for ever. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 We've only signed Celik. Fleck's wages will probably cover most of Mervan's and Weir's wage has just been freed up. Weir was on about £15,000+/ week 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 We should have seen this all along. There was never going to be 5 or 6 million on the table. Best bet would be a few hundred thousand and the wages from Davie Weir and whoever else leaves.The lack of CL money has left a big black hole. As it did in 2008, which really was the source of much of our current problem. We pay wages that can only be justified if we are in the CL, so if we aren't then our bum is out the window. Twice in 4 years isn't sustainable. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza_8 233 Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 My understanding is that we simply don't have enough money to pay the wages till the end of the season, so we need to sell Jelavic or Davis to make ends meet. Did Ally and Whyte know this when Davis, McGregor and Whittaker received a tidy wee wage rise at the start of the season? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Did Ally and Whyte know this when Davis, McGregor and Whittaker received a tidy wee wage rise at the start of the month? I assume you mean the start of the season not the month? No, because they would be assuming CL or at least EL football. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Weir was on about £15,000+/ week Add that to Fleck's wage and we've probably freed up over £20k p/w in the past week. Celik won't be on anywhere near that. Probably not even as much as £10k, so we've definitely freed up wages already this month. Darren Cole and Kal Naismith have went out on loan too, although perhaps the Jags won't be picking up their full wage. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metlika 0 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 First of all it would make it a silly idea to leave at the end of the window. Secondly why bother waiting? Thirdly seems BS. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dutchy Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I doubt this rumour very much. CW has not fulfilled his promises, but neither has the team perfomances, so I'm sure Ally was well aware of the situation as regards any money for Jelavic. another point is that Ally said they will not be selling Jelavic days before the window closes as we'd need time to find a replacement. If there's any cause for a disagreement between Ally and CW, it would be the decision to sell Jelavic at such short notice. As yet, there has been no bid received, although enquires could have been made, which is what would upset Ally if he were left short on goalscorers. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 It's not the first time this season that there's been rumours started about a so-called "bust-up" between Ally and Whyte. I can't see it happening even if they have words/disagreements. Ally wouldn't walk out and leave the club in the lurch even although a number of fans would be happy if he did because they want rid of him. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbr 1,247 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 That's a very fair point and one that I have discussed with a number of people. However, if we do go into administration then effectively HMRC will get all the assets except the ground, i.e. the players and sell any that they can and just retain enough to fulfil the fxitures. So in that scenario it doesn't really matter. BUT, if we win the case, then we need money for the wages, so........ I hope I'm wrong but they can't eek out the season ticket money for ever. There seems to be a lot of debate over the HMRC claim post thetax case (if they win ) this 75% ruling to block a cva is mentioned , but we also know that CW is owed circa £18 million plus what ever management fees etc he has ramped up , we have mortaged off season ticket money and income from catering , I dont know what the scenario is with players wages , given in the past players must be paid , I would seriously doubt whether the HMRC amount would stand up to the 75% ruling 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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