Zappa 0 Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Don't forget the the other parameter which is that Auchenhowie costa a lot to run, and. I don't think it has ever fulfilled it's real economic/player skill potential. Aye, well the training complex won't be cheap to run although the youth system is funded in it's own right by Rangers Lotto. I think it runs at a loss IIRC though, but I'm not sure how much of a loss exactly. Regarding it's economic potential, I agree that it should really have been doing better for us, but from reading comments from Elfideldo it sounds like that's got a lot to do with it being poorly run. Still, we've managed to sell a number of good players who've come through the ranks at MP and the sales of the likes of Alan Hutton, Danny Wilson and Charlie Adam have given us quite a lot of cash. We've also got some 1st team players just now who've come from our youths and could raise us some cash if they were sold, but I'd rather hold onto guys like Fleck, Hutton, Ness and Perry if we can because they're good players and there's others like Cole & Naismith who're both on loan to the Jags who might come good for us. Edited February 23, 2012 by Zappa 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) I'll draw up a direct comparison of that 08/09 squad and the current one side by side. Should be interesting, but probably a bit depressing too. Ok, well here it is - .....2008/09..................2011/12 Edited February 23, 2012 by Zappa 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Ok, well here it is - .....2008/09..................2011/12 Depressing isn't the word 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Depressing isn't the word Aye, it's pretty poor indeed. I definitely think the direct comparison shows that the squad we have just now must be costing a hell of a lot less in wages. There's a difference of several million pounds in those two wage bills. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergatrude 0 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 & the only player that we miss, IMO, is Miller. It's not really that depressing to me, the difference is depth. We are stretched right now even with a full squad so injuries are catastrophic for us. On the other hand, Miller & Mendes aside, I wouldn't really say that the left hand side is any better quality. It's just bulky, & the majority of that bulk is extremely average. I discount the likes of Adam, who have gone on to be extremely successful, from my perception of quality because he wasn't getting a chance to shine at Rangers & potentially never would. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,357 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I can see why you suggest comparing that season from a European football point of view given that we went out to Kaunas in the CL qualifiers, but the wage bill for the playing squad MUST have been far far higher that season compared to this season. On top of that, Walter was allowed to spend a small fortune in the summer 2008 transfer window buying 8 new players (Lafferty, Davis, Mendes, Edu, Bougherra, Miller, Velicka & Webster) at a cost of £18m+ while only selling Cuellar, Cousin & Sebo. We did release Darcheville & Burke in January '09, but even still, take a look back at our squad that season and compare it to our current squad: Allan McGregor Maurice Edu David Weir Pedro Mendes Sasa Papac Barry Ferguson Brahim Hemdani Kevin Thomson Kris Boyd Nacho Novo Charlie Adam Lee McCulloch Steven Naismith Alan Gow Graeme Smith Chris Burke Kenny Miller Jean-Claude Darcheville DaMarcus Beasley Kirk Broadfoot Andy Webster Christian Dailly Madjid Bougherra Neil Alexander Steven Smith Kyle Lafferty Steven Whittaker Aarón Niguez Steven Davis Andrius Velicka Rory Loy John Fleck Andrew Little When you consider Walter's transfer market spending and the cost of running that playing squad, do you still think this supposed £10m loss "doesn't seem unreasonable"?? So what would you say was the wage savings between then and now? £7m worth? That would bring the operating loss down from £17m to £10m I guess if I was doing an estimate, I'd probably come in under £10m. However I reckon I'd come in nearer £10m than £5m, although that's with 15 seconds analysis and I haven't sat down and done more detail. At this point it doesn't seem too relevant. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanAllan 0 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 So where has all the money been going in the last few years, is this the reason why The Blue Knights (going to stop using this) are so keen to get back in maybe they could answer that before I give them my money. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 The next big question is has that been paid? Well now we have the answer to that one. Apparently HMRC used the £4M plus they had frozen in our bank account for the "wee tax case" to pay the £4.1M due on the tickets. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juffery 0 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 & the only player that we miss, IMO, is Miller. It's not really that depressing to me, the difference is depth. We are stretched right now even with a full squad so injuries are catastrophic for us. On the other hand, Miller & Mendes aside, I wouldn't really say that the left hand side is any better quality. It's just bulky, & the majority of that bulk is extremely average. I discount the likes of Adam, who have gone on to be extremely successful, from my perception of quality because he wasn't getting a chance to shine at Rangers & potentially never would. Must resist Boyd thread!! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergatrude 0 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Must resist Boyd thread!! I omitted him from my comment cause' I get dizzy with the circles we talk when he is mentioned. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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