Daniel Amokachi 0 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 The RST 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BrahimHemdani 1 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 BH, if you read the RST statement the advice we gave to our members was to delay payment until a number of things were clarified. Not the same thing. We ask Charles Green to step aside from any deal to purchase Rangers and allow Walter Smith and co to lead us into this new era for our club. The Rangers Supportersâ?? Trust board calls on all supportersâ?? to hold off renewing season tickets till this situation is resolved. RST Monday, 18 June 2012 18:08 What I said and I stand by it based on the above statement is that advising people not to renew season tickets in a bid to oust Green (and support your latest favourite candidate) was irresponsible. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plgsarmy 111 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 What I said and I stand by it based on the above statement is that advising people not to renew season tickets in a bid to oust Green (and support your latest favourite candidate) was irresponsible. This is the statement that I was talking about. RST Board Advice to Members Friday, 22 June 2012 11:56 There are a number of major issues facing the club and the support at present, not least of which is the decision on when, if at all, to renew season tickets. Given recent revelations over the failure of season ticket money to be ring-fenced as the Chief Executive Charles Green had indicated, we feel there is no other option open to the support than to delay payment until it is clear that proper corporate banking facilities are in place and supporters cash is protected from liquidators. The RST board has serious concerns with regard to Charles Green's business model and his ability to take the club forward. It remains unclear whether he will be able to raise the £30m investment pledged at the outset of his bid and with continued speculation that the club has no corporate banking facilities our fears are only increasing. Therefore it is incumbent upon the Chief Executive and Chairman to allay these fears with guarantees and hard evidence of investment and secure the relevant banking facility required for a business the size of Rangers. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 This is the statement that I was talking about. RST Board Advice to Members Friday, 22 June 2012 11:56 Yes but you cannot deny that 4 days earlier, you were advising members not to renew in a bid to oust Mr Green, were you not; that is the comparison I made with John Brown, equally irresponsible. In any event as I understand it the RFFF advised fans after meeting Mr Green, TO RENEW; and as has been discussed in another thread it would appear that your representative and and your organisation does not understand the doctrine of collective responsibility in that respect. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plgsarmy 111 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Yes but you cannot deny that 4 days earlier, you were advising members not to renew in a bid to oust Mr Green, were you not; that is the comparison I made with John Brown, equally irresponsible. In any event as I understand it the RFFF advised fans after meeting Mr Green, TO RENEW; and as has been discussed in another thread it would appear that your representative and and your organisation does not understand the doctrine of collective responsibility in that respect. To be honest BH, 'collective responsibility' (for me) is up there with 'sporting integrity' - meaningless words. Despite what you may read, it is unclear who MD is representing as he received a phone call asking him to attend a meeting. In addition, as I have stated elsewhere, I do not believe that the RFFF should have been meeting Charles Green or making comments to fans on season tickets, particularly as some of its' members will now have a conflict of interest, however that is another debate. I believe that it would have been more irresponsible to encourage members to renew given the serious doubts we have about this consortium. It's getting late so I don't have time to make a list but here is one question we should be asking. Why, if he is going to raise another £20M by the end of July (assuming he has already raised £10M), was he willing to sell 50% of the club for £8M? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 To be honest BH, 'collective responsibility' (for me) is up there with 'sporting integrity' - meaningless words. Despite what you may read, it is unclear who MD is representing as he received a phone call asking him to attend a meeting. In addition, as I have stated elsewhere, I do not believe that the RFFF should have been meeting Charles Green or making comments to fans on season tickets, particularly as some of its' members will now have a conflict of interest, however that is another debate. To be clear then, since you remain a Board member of RST, you don't know if Mr Dingwall is representing RST on RFFF? Is that really your position and if so is it the position of your colleagues? If Mr Dingwall is not representing RST on RFFF, who is he representing, himself, FF or whoever or whatever? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I do not believe that the RFFF should have been meeting Charles Green or making comments to fans on season tickets, particularly as some of its' members will now have a conflict of interest, however that is another debate. I certainly agree with you on that (the first thing we have agreed on for some time perhaps) nor do I think they should be pontificating about renaming of Murray Park. The Chair of RFFF has always had a conflict of interest IMHO since he represents Messrs McCoist and Durrant and quite possibly others as well. And for the avoidance of doubt that comment is not meant to impugn his personal integrity in any way. BTW why did Andy Smillie resign? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,373 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) What I said and I stand by it based on the above statement is that advising people not to renew season tickets in a bid to oust Green (and support your latest favourite candidate) was irresponsible. BH, if you read the RST statement the advice we gave to our members was to delay payment until a number of things were clarified. Not the same thing. We ask Charles Green to step aside from any deal to purchase Rangers and allow Walter Smith and co to lead us into this new era for our club. The Rangers Supporters’ Trust board calls on all supporters’ to hold off renewing season tickets till this situation is resolved. Sounds like you're trying to oust Green Edited July 2, 2012 by Bluedell 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,373 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 To be honest BH, 'collective responsibility' (for me) is up there with 'sporting integrity' - meaningless words. :surprised: So you think that none of the RST board need to stand by the decisions that the Board reach and it's OK for board members to come out and publicly criticise or contradict the decisions of the Board and are OK to stay in their position on the Board? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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