Lennons a classless twat - no news there - akin to trying to get an opponent sent off

[Anchorman 0]

This little classless shite's comments this morning (again) about having titles stripped is the equivalent off running up to a referee and flashing an imaginery red card to get an opponent sent off. Integrity my arse but the journos wont comment on that.

And who is to say that had we fielded another side we still wouldn't have won it? What beat them a few times was lacking bottle at crucial times - not the oppostion players calibre. Are they looking into Ross County and ICT etc for evidence of dual contracts to bail them out?

It's got LIEWELL stamped all over it!!

[pete 2,499]

This little classless shite's comments this morning (again) about having titles stripped is the equivalent off running up to a referee and flashing an imaginery red card to get an opponent sent off. Integrity my arse but the journos wont comment on that.

And who is to say that had we fielded another side we still wouldn't have won it? What beat them a few times was lacking bottle at crucial times - not the oppostion players calibre. Are they looking into Ross County and ICT etc for evidence of dual contracts to bail them out?

It's got LIEWELL stamped all over it!!

 

Can you put up the article as I have no idea what you are on about.

[GovanAllan 0]

Better still just ignore the snaggle-toothed wee bigoted bastard.

[ian1964 10,427]

Can you put up the article as I have no idea what you are on about.

 

Celtic manager Neil Lennon: Stripping Rangers of titles will be moral victory for those treated unfairly

 

 

NEIL LENNON last night insisted Rangers should be stripped of titles if they were won by cheating.

 

But the Celtic manager doesn’t want to receive medals as compensation for finishing runner-up in any illegally won race from his time as a player.

 

Instead, Lenny wants Scottish football history to be rewritten and recognition given to clubs that played within the rules.

 

The manager read Thursday’s Daily Record exclusive on the SPL’s move to strip Rangers of the titles won if they are proved to have signed players on illegal double contracts.

 

Speaking in Germany, Lennon said: “If they are stripped of titles so be it.

 

“It will be a moral victory for those who were treated unfairly.

 

“It won’t change my life but it’s right to do it for historical reference. What went on in the past cost players new contracts and bonus money. It might have helped relegate some clubs and cost managers their jobs.”

 

Lennon lost two cliffhanger SPL finishes to Rangers in 2003 and 2005.

 

Lennon wants those titles to be removed from Rangers’ record – but he’s not looking for gongs.

 

He said: “I don’t want any medals for years gone by.

 

“I can’t get the feeling back of what it would have been like to win those titles and that’s why it won’t make a huge dent in my life if Rangers are stripped of trophies.

 

“I don’t want a medal – I want to see rightful winners emerge and then we can close this chapter of the game’s history.”

 

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2012/07/19/celtic-manager-neil-lennon-stripping-rangers-of-titles-will-be-moral-victory-for-those-treated-unfairly-86908-23910015/

[Blue Moon 1,114]

Now the silence from them is explained. Carefully orchestrated for maximum effect. We are being outmanoevered by their PR machine at every turn. I say it again, time for the club to speak out and the supporter groups.

[ian1964 10,427]

Will their inevitable coming titles be tainted?,will they be won fair and square?,sporting integrity my arse,enjoy your hollow titles gained by cheating ya bigoted scum bag

[ian1964 10,427]

Worlds Shame

 

A riot during and after the OF league match on Ne'erday 1902. (Guess who won?)

 

The part played by Maley's comments regards the 1909 'Hampden Riot' final and the majority of his players malingering on the pitch at the end of the replay.

 

Maley trying to sell star man McGrory behind his back AFTER a trip to Varoukasville in the 1920s.

 

Maley refusing to pay McGrory as much as the other players in a fit of spite thereafter.

 

Maley's poison at the Thomson/English FAI in October 1931.

 

The cesspit being shut down after a 'riot' by their fans at Ibrox in September 1941 (partly because of their pro Irish sentiment and Ireland being a pro Nazi state at the time)

 

The yahoos blaming the ref (what's new?) for yet another OF defeat in June 1946 and a crazed yahoo running onto the park with a bottle trying to 'glass' the unfortunate official.

 

A 'bottle party' at Ibrox on Ne'erday 1949

 

A 'bottle party' at Ibrox after the Cox/Tully incident later that year.

 

A 'bottle party' at the cesspit on Ne'erday 1952 and the SFA very nearly grew a backbone (at Hibs' behest) in taking them on. I did say, very nearly, and shamefully our own Chairman Baillie Wilson helped them out.

 

They wrecked Middlesborough at the end of the 50s' (1959 I think) after a seven goal drubbing.

 

Telling 'Ba Face' he had to leave the cesspit on account of his religion circa the same period.

 

Two men (Paddy Crerand and Mike Jackson) sent off in a five-a-sides match circa 61/62.

 

The Ibrox riot of 1962 after St Mirren 'gubbed' them in the Scottish Cup semi final. Even old man Robert (the bigot) Kelly had no option but to concede the tie.

 

TGFITW displays of May 15th 1963 and October 24th 1964, both at Hampden, when the hoopy hordes flocked out in their tens of thousands rather than support their team.

 

A riot down in Liverpool in 1966 after they were put out of the ECWC. To this day they still tell lies about a disallowed goal that was nothing of the sort.

 

They got lucky for awhile.

 

Ba Face admitting on a TV documentary in 1972 that Kelly told hm to leave the cesspit for managerial reasons on account of his religion.

 

McBungle holding up 8 digits to the sellik end after the Centenary Cup final defeat. The worst losers in the world at your service.

 

Booing and jeering the minute's silence for Bobby McKean in March 1978.

 

Wanting to make Ba Face a Pools Agent, in spite of all he had achieved for them ON ACCOUNT OF HIS RELIGION in the same year.

 

Telling 'King Kenny' he was an orange bastard at a testimonial for ba face, also in the same year.

 

Rioting in Burnley in 1978 after an Anglo-Scottish Cup defeat. Even McBungle is quoted as calling them 'scum' afterwards.

 

Causing the 1980 Hampden Riot because they are the worst winners in sport. The captain from seven years previously is now the captain. Is this a coincidence?

 

Filling the cesspit with songs of glee because of the death of a Protestant Minister, Robert Bradford, in November 1981.

 

Allowing a Provie Band to play at a friendly down in Ipswich in 1982.

 

1984 - Nah, it's more like animal farm against Rapid Vienna and the provie band are allowed to promote their hatred and bile once again at Old Trafford.

 

1986 - English captains of Rangers and family are fair game for the craicskaters in restaurants.

 

1987 - Ex Celtic manager goes to a Clydebank car park. The rest is history.

 

Battering an ex hero's old man. Punters being stopped from attending an Old Firm game at the cesspit because of their hatred, aforementioned ex hero sent numerous death threats from the self styled GFITW and all for signing for Rangers, in 1989.

 

Whistling and jeering all through the minute's silence for the 20th anniversary of the Ibrox Disaster.

 

Death threats to a high profile member of one of the 'Families'.

(The rest till they are gone is fecking funny)

 

Being banned from an OF game because of wanton, deliberate and persistent scummery.

 

Mangement trying to defend and justify said wanton, deliberate and persistent scummery.

 

Hugh Dallas - March 1997 Malky MacKay, Di Cannio, unfettered hatred; say no more.

 

Hugh Dallas - May 1999 Coins, pie queue divers, smashed windows; say no more.

 

Proviefest in Royston on the weekend of April 6/7th 2001.

Players goading Rangers fans outside Ibrox after a match in the same month.

Fan mocking 9/11

A wreath laid by the Rangers party to New York vandalised by yahoos

 

And so it goes on.

 

It shouldn't need me to bring you up to date with the goings on of the last five years.

 

It simply remains for me to say that Celtic FC were, are and always will be the biggest single sporting and social CANCER in Scottish society.

And in the early 60's a Labour MP,Hugh Delargy called for the liquidation of Celtic football club after numerous people were slashed with broken bottles by Yahoos in town for a match at Dens Park.

 

 

Jock Stein jumping into the crowd to stop IRA chants in the early 70s

Gordon Strachan attacked twice by Celtic fans

Missiles thrown on the park v Rapid Vienna

Two Rapid Vienna players attacked at the replay at Old Trafford

Celtic Park closed by UEFA the following year

A cover up of systematic child abuse carried out with the tacit knowledge of Celtic FC

Rioting at Burnley and the game held up in 1978

Celtic fans encroaching on the pitch at Hampden in 1980 and thus instigating the Hamped Riot

Singing and chanting of spport of IRA atrocities in English cities devasted by IRA bombing campaigns

The worst display of racist abuse ever seen in a British football stadium in January 1988 when Mark Walters was showered with hundreds of bananas and subjected to monkey noises by thousands of fans

Marring the minutes silence im memory of the Ibrox Disaster by making disgusting and anti protestant chants

Injuring Hugh Dallas with missiles in May 1999

At least three fans invading the pich v Rangers in May 1999

Hugh Dallas's house windows smashed after game in May 1999

 

Drug dealer supporters shooting each other in Amsterdam

Marring a minutes silence for the Queen Mother

Marring a minutes silence for 9/11

Desecrating a plaque left by Rangers FC at Ground Zero

Making disgusting plane gestures, in the wake of 9/11, to Claudio Reyna

A commercial flight diverted by the pilot and RAF fighters scrambled to escort the plane down, due to misbehaving fans

Rioting at Vigo airport

Rioting and ticket forging at Blackburn

Stabbing fellow fans in Seville

Stabbing fellow fans at Firhill

A fan invading the pitch v Manchester United in 2006.

 

The Greatest Fans In The World?

 

Don't make me feckin' laugh....

 

 

not to mention the mockery of the minutes silence for the victims of enniskillen

 

tossing cs gas cannisters at hibs fans at easter rd

 

stabbings in amsterdam

diverted planes

60mullion in suvul!

 

they truly are scum of the highest order!

[ian1964 10,427]

A Republican flute band at a Testimonial v Ipswich in the early 80s

 

Pure class!!

 

Grafitti appearing, the day after the Innniskilling atrocity in 1987, near Parjhead saying " Inniskilling..ha, ha"

 

Their refusal by managers and staff to wear poppies during Remembrance time in November.

 

Abuse of British Army troops by various Celtic supporters on motorways

 

Celtic fans wearing balaclavas at Celtic Park in honour of 'Ireland's Heroes'

 

In addition to the general thuggery, the following instances of thieving (from their own I may add) have all happened in the last year

 

-Buckie drinking Shellik strip wearing neds stealing strips from Jinky's graveside

-A Shellik barman arrested over theft from Jinky's tribute slap bang outside Shellik Park

-Another Shellik employee arrested over theft of players' strips and the attempted re-set in the Vogue Bar in Rutherglan

- A Shellik minded poster ripping off her fellow fans by missapropriating charity funds collected for Jinky's Motor-neurone charity

 

Didn't the scummy bassas not also desecrate Davie Coopers memorial statue and also the memorial for the Ibrox Disaster outside Ibrox?

 

Celtic Park closed during WW2 because the proto TGFITW were chanting pro Germany and Nazi slogans

 

 

This article from the PDF file thats going about says it all really, there was a cover up from the top down at Celtic Park:

 

Cover Up

 

Celtic

's former board were part of an astonishing cover-up over abuse allegations against Frank Cairney.

They agreed a shameful deal that allowed the boys' club boss to avoid a police probe.

Today FOUR former Celtic Boys' Club officials break their silence about the scandal on a trip to America.

The Record can reveal:

Cairney was told police wouldn't be called if he quit the club immediately.

 

Celtic

chairman Jack McGinn allowed Cairney's written resignation to say it was for `business reasons'.

The boy's parents were also sworn to secrecy.

But now we can reveal the truth behind the pact struck with Cairney at an airport cafe in Boston five years ago.

Former boys' club chairman Jim McNally, who was on the trip, said: "Any cover-up was not at our level.

"The other officials and myself have come forward because we have acted in good faith throughout.

"It has been painful and taken a great toll on all of our lives. But we want the truth to come out and we're prepared to stand up and be

counted."

 

 

 

 

They all knew. McNeil stated in court, under oath, that it was an open secret inside the piggery. So as if it wasn't bad enough that Stein knew what was happening and never informed the authorities, only going as far as throwing Torbett out the door, everyone else inside the club knew too, and once again did nothing.

 

To think, there must've been people inside the club - officials, coaching staff and even players - who will have been dealing with Torbett in some form or another, all the while knowing what he was doing to young boys, and STILL they did nothing. For me there should've been dozens of people at celtic charged as accessories to his crimes as they knew what was going on and never informed the police

 

Some club eh?

* Formed to ensure religious separation among the poor immigrant population.

* Its longest serving manager hinting the death of his goalkeeper wasn't an accident, when even the keeper's family had acknowledged it was.

* Threatened with closure during WW2 for their fans open support of Nazi Germany.

* Open support for terrorism and child murderers, both from the fans AND the people running the club

* Allowing a republican folk band to film a pro IRA music video INSIDE the piggery, with full access to all areas including the pitch itself

* The sectarian murders of Rangers fans, shown in official police figures to be more frequent than their celtic counterparts, covered up by a complicit mhedia

* The riots of their fans at home and all over Europe (including having a passenger jet DIVERTED) and having the most fans arrested at any one European tie.

* The cover up of 2 players caught on video taking part in a provofest at a celtic function, with at least one of them clearly chanting 'Sinn Fein' and 'IRA'.

* The club, through an officially recognised, approved and funded fans group, hiring a convicted IRA terrorist to paint the Jock Stein banner.

* The worst case of racist abuse ever seen at a sporting event on Mark Walters' debut at the piggery on 2nd January 1988.

* A photographer for the club's official publication caught with hundreds of child porn photographs in his locker at the piggery.

* The many cases of Referees and other match officials (and their families) attacked, threatened and abused by celtic fans because of decisions given against their team.

* Their past captain caught on live tv shouting sectarian obscenities to Rangers fans and officials.

* Their then manager witnessed shouting the same sectarian obscenities to Rangers fans that same day.

* One of their former players (who also played for us) having to decline an invitation to take part for both sides (a half each) in a charity match because of fears for his safety due to threats from celtic fans.

* And, of course, the systematic sex abuse of children in their care and (what was worse imho) the systematic cover up of said sex abuse over a period of decades.

[andy steel 0]

I would point out, just so no-one can rebut your points, that Walters was not showered with hundreds of bananas. It was 'merely' about 20.

[ian1964 10,427]

Remember the David Murray article in the record regarding dual contracts?,I know I know,but!:

 

 

Sir David Murray denies any use of 'dual contracts' during his time at Ibrox

 

DAVID Murray yesterday poured scorn on accusations Rangers handed out double contracts to players to cover up untaxed payments.

 

He was speaking out for the first time since handing the Ibrox club over to Craig Whyte and admitted it was a “huge mistake”.

 

Murray apologised for letting Whyte get his hands on the club he’d fronted for most of the 23 years he was owner and admitted the decision will probably haunt him for years to come.

 

He said: “I’ll regret this for the rest of my life but I know Rangers will survive because of the fans. This club will prosper again.”

 

As for reports Rangers used double contracts to conceal payments to players – the stories were based on information supplied by former Ibrox director Hugh Adam – Murray dismissed them as fantasy.

 

According to Mike McGill, one of the former chairman’s right-hand men at the Murray Group, Adam had resigned as a director towards the end of 2000, a year before the EBT scheme was introduced.

Murray doesn’t see how Adam could have known anything about contracts but McGill said: “The club used an old offshore EBT scheme in 1999 with three players.

 

“That scheme is the subject of the small tax case. The Revenue provided some information to us in early 2011 and we conceded (the £2.8m) based on that information and provided for payment in the club accounts. Whyte did not pay it.

 

“The other scheme was started in 2001 and the larger scheme involves a payment into an offshore trust. But there is no contractual entitlement on the part of the players. That is key to the defence and key to the allegations made by the SFA.”

 

Murray added: “Hugh didn’t know. He wanted to buy Rangers at the time I had the club. He did a great job in running the pools but he became a bit anti-me.

 

“I’ve looked through every year to check my facts and there were no double contracts. Categorically, there were no dual contracts.”

When asked if he now regrets the use of EBT schemes McGill said: “We’ve probably said more than we should have on EBTs.

 

“The tribunal judges are about to make a decision and I do not want to be seen to be influencing either way but what I would say is this: We went through 10 AGMs. We signed off accounts by Grant Thornton and the remuneration trust was always mentioned in the account. It was never hidden.”

 

Murray felt he had to give his version because of the pressure and criticism building around him as administrators struggle to keep Rangers going. Also, whether or not he likes it, he must accept responsibility for his part in the club’s downfall.

 

He says he does and added: “I’ve been at crossroads in my life before and I passed through them.”

 

It was a poignant statement because it was 36 years ago to the day yesterday that he lost both legs in a car crash so he isn’t easily unnerved although he does wish he’d never sold to Whyte.

 

He said: “Again, I apologise and if I could turn the clock back, of course I would.

 

“You know when it really hit home for me? I care about the club passionately or I wouldn’t have done it as long but the day he (Whyte) sold the Arsenal shares?

 

“There are bits that belong to the history of a club. I said to Mike, ‘Does he realise what he’s actually done?’ That was a raw nerve, to have done that premeditated. Any sympathy he may have had just gone out the window then.”

 

When asked what he’d say if he met Whyte again, Murray said: “I don’t think we want to go there – I don’t expect many of us will see him again.”

 

Yet shouldn’t alarm bells have been clanging sooner, when Alastair Johnston, the chairman at the time of the takeover, was saying Whyte was not the right person to own the club? No one, he insists, provided evidence to substantiate the rumours.

 

He also said he couldn’t take Paul Murray’s late bid because it didn’t tick enough boxes.

 

He said: “I understand Paul was keen to get the club and I have nothing but respect for him. He wants only the best for the club.

 

“But Paul was not able at that time to give us an offer that was satisfactory for many, many reasons. He wanted debt left in and the tax case put to one side.

 

“Looking at the offer document that went out to shareholders, to buy the club, to invest, in theory Whyte’s was the right deal to do.

 

“Looking back it wasn’t and I can only apologise so many times. I wish I’d never done the deal with Craig Whyte.”

 

It has always been suggested the club’s bankers, Lloyds, who are also the Murray Group’s bank, put the squeeze on Murray to offload Rangers to Whyte but Murray said: “No. The bank wanted their money back, of course, and I’d made it clear I wanted out of Rangers.

 

“We were going into recession and people weren’t queueing up to buy football clubs. But if we’d known of the Ticketus thing we would not have done the deal.”

 

But surely Murray’s own due diligence should have been more thorough?

 

“That’s easy to say now but we did the necessary,” he said, before McGill stepped in again adding: “We had a number of characters who came forward to try to buy the club. That included one fraudulently procured proof-of-funds letter from a reputable bank. It included other parties who claimed to have funds but did not.

 

“What Craig Whyte had that the others did not was the backing of a reputable legal firm. The fact he was clearing money into their clients’ account and the fact they confirmed they had sufficient funds to do the transaction that was being negotiated, goes a long way to being positive confirmation.”

 

Now, of course, the fans know Whyte was not a fit and proper person to own their club and there are many who believe Rangers would be better off in liquidation.

 

They reckon it would be cheaper and easier to deal with creditors but Murray doesn’t agree.

 

Re-emerging as a newco isn’t what he’d like to see and he said: “That’s not in the best interests of the game or Rangers. A CVA would be preferable.

 

“But Scottish football isn’t seen as a great investment. If you’re not a Rangers fan you want to kick Rangers – and I understand that.

 

“But without Rangers the game would be much worse off.”

 

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2012/03/14/rangers-in-crisis-sir-david-murray-denies-any-use-of-dual-contracts-during-his-time-at-ibrox-86908-23787536/