BlackSocksRedTops 3,976 Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 (edited) On 18/10/2024 at 08:23, Whosthedado said: The constant want to go back to former players is boring. Have we forgotten what Kent and Morelos were like in the last year of their contracts Expand Sadly that what's our club has become. A collection of memories of triumphs and players from yesteryear. When got demoted we should have rebooted our whole set up from the bottom and up. We should have created a brand new version of our club that was befitting a football club in the 21st century. What have we got now? A club that lurches from one season to the next without any structure or bigger picture planning. We also have a large amount fan's who seem to think that 9 in a row was a few seasons ago. It gives me no pleasure in saying this but as the Tims have moved forward on all fronts at great pace and we've stagnated and stood still. Edited October 18, 2024 by BlackSocksRedTops 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 12,181 Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 On 18/10/2024 at 11:42, CammyF said: True, but what about the other seasons? Are we forgetting Kent tearing the likes of Dortmund apart? Expand His penultimate season with us was even worse. His Goals per 90 is 0.15 over 218 games. That's Cortes' numbers after 7 (not quite full) games. Kent's just not very good; he never has been. He can beat a man but has no end product. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,547 Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 (edited) On 18/10/2024 at 12:59, Rousseau said: Kent's just not very good; he never has been. Expand Kent did something worthwhile about once every ten matches during his time here (step-overs don't count - goals and assists do). Cerny, Cortez and McCausland are all doing better, in their short time in the first team. Matondo probably is too but I don't count him because he's rubbish. Edited October 18, 2024 by Gonzo79 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 9,711 Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 On 18/10/2024 at 12:35, Gribz said: A bit pedantic - Especially when Ive said I wouldnt have him back due to him not being the same player. Expand Exactly - As most of us are saying - the fact is Kent is better than we currently have doesn't mean we want him back. Its not really that difficult to understand. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 9,711 Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 On 18/10/2024 at 12:59, Rousseau said: His penultimate season with us was even worse. His Goals per 90 is 0.15 over 218 games. That's Cortes' numbers after 7 (not quite full) games. Kent's just not very good; he never has been. He can beat a man but has no end product. Expand That's a matter of opinion. Mines is Kent is / was better than Cortes,MacCauland, Matondo and Cerny. Yours is he isn't. I'll ask again, can you see Cortes, MacCausland, Cerny or Matondo contributing in us winning the title ot getting to EL Final? Would any of them terrorise Dortmund like Kent did? I'll save you answering, as the answer is no. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 12,181 Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 On 18/10/2024 at 13:28, CammyF said: Exactly - As most of us are saying - the fact is Kent is better than we currently have doesn't mean we want him back. Its not really that difficult to understand. Expand Erm... Apps Mins Goals Assists mins/90 GI per 90 Matondo 65 2572 8 12 29 0.70 Cerny 12 745 3 2 8 0.60 McCausland 56 2343 6 7 26 0.50 Kent 218 17732 33 54 197 0.44 Cortes 8 490 1 1 5 0.37 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 9,711 Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 On 18/10/2024 at 12:11, Scott7 said: Why did they want to replace him? Expand They have a full quota of foreign players and want to sign another (at least 1) so have to let one of their foreign players leave. No one wanted to leave so their terminating contracts. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 9,711 Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 (edited) On 18/10/2024 at 13:35, Rousseau said: Erm... Apps Mins Goals Assists mins/90 GI per 90 Matondo 65 2572 8 12 29 0.70 Cerny 12 745 3 2 8 0.60 McCausland 56 2343 6 7 26 0.50 Kent 218 17732 33 54 197 0.44 Cortes 8 490 1 1 5 0.37 Expand Erm what have those players won for us? Stats don't and never will tell the whole story. Are you really saying Matondo is a better player than Kent and has contributed more than Kent? Please post trophies won at Rangers stat, win game % and goals, assists, dribbles etc in games as well. Edited October 18, 2024 by CammyF 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 12,181 Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 On 18/10/2024 at 13:32, CammyF said: That's a matter of opinion. Mines is Kent is / was better than Cortes,MacCauland, Matondo and Cerny. Yours is he isn't. I'll ask again, can you see Cortes, MacCausland, Cerny or Matondo contributing in us winning the title ot getting to EL Final? Would any of them terrorise Dortmund like Kent did? I'll save you answering, as the answer is no. Expand It's not a matter of opinion; it's a fact: Kent's goal involvement return is rather poor. We should have won the league last season with three of those four, so it's not outwith the realms of possibility. We reached a EL final with Kirk Broadfoot. Matondo could terrorise Dortmund - he can beat a man like Kent. (I feel like Cortes could, but then again, I've not seen him do it enough. I also get the sense he doesn't like to beat his man like he should.) I'm not making any judgements - a lot of it is subjective - all I'm saying is that Kent's return is rather poor, which is fact. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CammyF 9,711 Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 On 18/10/2024 at 12:57, BlackSocksRedTops said: Sadly that what's our club has become. A collection of memories of triumphs and players from yesteryear. When got demoted we should have rebooted our whole set up from the bottom and up. We should have created a brand new version of our club that was befitting a football club in the 21st century. What have we got now? A club that lurches from one season to the next without any structure or bigger picture planning. We also have a large amount fan's who seem to think that 9 in a row was a few seasons ago. It gives me no pleasure in saying this but as the Tims have moved forward on all fronts at great pace and we've stagnated and stood still. Expand 100% correct and no amount of posturing about the current set-up cam change this. We've been left in their shadow, missed a huge opportunity to make Rangers great again (I'd say 2 opportunities - the 2nd after 55). Really difficult to see how we catch them, never mind overtake them. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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