Champions League 2nd Qualifying Round: Rangers v Panathinaikos

[Rousseau 12,229]

10 minutes ago, CammyF said:

I can't be the only Rangers fan who thinks domestic success is more important than European involvement? 

I don't think you are, but you are also suggesting we forego (forgo?) Europe altogether, which is quite another thing. 

 

I agree with the premise, but I don't agree with your conclusions. 

[CammyF 9,745]

2 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

I don't think you are, but you are also suggesting we forego (forgo?) Europe altogether, which is quite another thing. 

 

I agree with the premise, but I don't agree with your conclusions. 

But we can offset it to give us a better chance of domestic success this season and European qualification next. 

 

History, both recent and bot so recent has shown us that NO Scottish team can have prolonged domestic combined with prolonged European success, yet we except it now....

[Rousseau 12,229]

22 minutes ago, CammyF said:

But we can offset it to give us a better chance of domestic success this season and European qualification next. 

 

History, both recent and bot so recent has shown us that NO Scottish team can have prolonged domestic combined with prolonged European success, yet we except it now....

It's a big risk. 

[CammyF 9,745]

38 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

It's a big risk. 

So is going deep into Europe every season and losing the league. 

[buster. 5,844]

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

Nice to see the old blusters back with the insults.

 

Away and have a wee think about what I posted brain of Britian.

It wasn't an insult.

Given the childlike collection of what ifs, allied to the risks involved, it was a fair categorization.

 

An insult would have went beyond that.

Edited 21 hours ago by buster.

[Gonzo79 15,609]

Does winning the 2025/26 league title guarantee CL football (not the qualifiers)?  I don't think it does but might be wrong.

 

Either way, we should be aiming to get into the CL or EL league stage every season.  

[CammyF 9,745]

Just now, buster. said:

It wasn't an insult.

Given the childlike collection of what ifs, allied to the risks involved, it was a fair categorization.

No it isn't, it's simply something you disagree with. It's also something the new owners have spoken about. Firstly they want us to be successful domestically, then make our mark in European.

 

With all due respect, they know a little bit more about our business model and how we are going to achieve our goals than you and me.

 

Let's say, compare the two scenarios below

 

1/ May 2026 we've won the SPFL title, but exited Europe early

 

or

 

2/ we lost the league but got to group stages of EL.

 

Which is going to be viewed by our new owners and the fanbase as a successful season?

 

Feel free to phone a friend

 

[CammyF 9,745]

3 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

Does winning the 2025/26 league title guarantee CL football (not the qualifiers)?  I don't think it does but might be wrong.

 

Either way, we should be aiming to get into the CL or EL league stage every season.  

It will depend on coefficient but worst case (IIRC) it would be 1 qualifier rather than 3. 

Edited 21 hours ago by CammyF

[buster. 5,844]

1 minute ago, CammyF said:

No it isn't, it's simply something you disagree with. It's also something the new owners have spoken about. Firstly they want us to be successful domestically, then make our mark in European.

 

With all due respect, they know a little bit more about our business model and how we are going to achieve our goals than you and me.

 

Let's say, compare the two scenarios below

 

1/ May 2026 we've won the SPFL title, but exited Europe early

 

or

 

2/ we lost the league but got to group stages of EL.

 

Which is going to be viewed by our new owners and the fanbase as a successful season?

 

Feel free to phone a friend

 

You forgot.....

 

3/ we lost the league and go out of Europe early.

 

What happens then ?

 

[CammyF 9,745]

Just now, buster. said:

You forgot.....

 

3/ we lost the league and go out of Europe early.

 

What happens then ?

 

Nothing.

 

But what gives us the best chance to win the league?