Champions League 2nd Qualifying Round: Rangers v Panathinaikos

[buster. 5,853]

2 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Nothing.

 

But what gives us the best chance to win the league? 

You say "nothing" 😂😂😂😂

 

I repeat, put away your crayons.

[CammyF 9,760]

10 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

 

 

Either way, we should be aiming to get into the CL or EL league stage every season.  

We should also be aiming to win the league every season. 

[CammyF 9,760]

17 minutes ago, buster. said:

You say "nothing" 😂😂😂😂

 

I repeat, put away your crayons.

What would expect to happen? The 49ers hand us back to the old board?

 

The draw is tough and I'd say qualification is 50/50. So of we lose, what do you think will happen?

 

Again, typical Bluster ignores the question (as he know the answer but doesn't want to say it);

 

I'll ask again what gives us the best chance of winning the league?

 

Again, feel free to phone a friend. 

Edited Wednesday at 19:21 by CammyF

[buster. 5,853]

19 hours ago, CammyF said:

No it isn't, it's simply something you disagree with. It's also something the new owners have spoken about. Firstly they want us to be successful domestically, then make our mark in European.

 

With all due respect, they know a little bit more about our business model and how we are going to achieve our goals than you and me.

 

Let's say, compare the two scenarios below

 

1/ May 2026 we've won the SPFL title, but exited Europe early

 

or

 

2/ we lost the league but got to group stages of EL.

 

Which is going to be viewed by our new owners and the fanbase as a successful season?

 

 

1. We are currently in CL qualifiers and should be looking to give it our very best shot. 

 

2. How exactly would we prioritise the league? Do we play kids in Europe ? We have seen that our players are generally more motivated in European football rather than domestic. How do you change that?

 

3. Finance. The new owners won't bankroll continued failure, they want to take money out. How do you plug the increased gaps left by much reduced European revenue. Bear in mind that we will be wanting to use monies from player sales to invest in squad.

 

4. What happens if we prioritise domestic football but lose the league? 

Would you continue to prioritise the league and not bother so much about European footbal? 

Do you call that a coherent and viable business model?

 

5. Do we let our hard earned coefficient go down the toilet? Higher coefficient means increased prize money.

 

 

 

 

 

- European group football is necessary for our business model and current financial situation.

 

- Your binary choice is flawed and presumes we win the league if we are out of Europe and doesn't even consider a worst case scenario that is very possible.

 

- Winning the league isn't a guarantee of a CL League phase place

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Note

25/26 SPFL winner would have to play one CL qualifier

 

26/27 SPFL winner currently on path to play 3 qualifiers. 

Second place would go straight to Conference League qualifying (3 rounds)

[compo 8,200]

It would be nice to get our hands on some of the champions league riches 

[Student 15]

8 minutes ago, compo said:

It would be nice to get our hands on some of the champions league riches 

Celtic steal a march on us lately.  If we fail again at least they may lose their qualifier but they are seeded.

[compo 8,200]

This Greek outfit have never lost to a Scottish team, They're is always a first 

[CammyF 9,760]

1 hour ago, buster. said:

1. We are currently in CL qualifiers and should be looking to give it our very best shot. 

 

2. How exactly would we prioritise the league? Do we play kids in Europe ? We have seen that our players are generally more motivated in European football rather than domestic. How do you change that?

 

3. Finance. The new owners won't bankroll continued failure, they want to take money out. How do you plug the increased gaps left by much reduced European revenue. Bear in mind that we will be wanting to use monies from player sales to invest in squad.

 

4. What happens if we prioritise domestic football but lose the league? 

Would you continue to prioritise the league and not bother so much about European footbal? 

Do you call that a coherent and viable business model?

 

5. Do we let our hard earned coefficient go down the toilet? Higher coefficient means increased prize money.

 

 

 

 

 

- European group football is necessary for our business model and current financial situation.

 

- Your binary choice is flawed and presumes we win the league if we are out of Europe and doesn't even consider a worst case scenario that is very possible.

 

- Winning the league isn't a guarantee of a CL League phase place

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Note

25/26 SPFL winner would have to play one CL qualifier

 

26/27 SPFL winner currently on path to play 3 qualifiers. 

Second place would go straight to Conference League qualifying (3 rounds)

Still didn't answer my question - on ignore 

[Tannochsidebear 2,537]

1 hour ago, compo said:

This Greek outfit have never lost to a Scottish team, They're is always a first 

We knocked them out of the Europa in 2008. Drew 0-0 at Ibrox and a late equaliser gave us a 1-1 draw and victory on away goals.  I suppose it depends how you define lost, but they certainly lost that tie to us. 

[buster. 5,853]

Of all the countries in Europe that we have played*, .....Our very lowest win percentage is against the Greeks, 11%.

 

Played 9

Won: 1 (vs PAOK 1998)

Drawn: 5

Lost: 3

 

However, in the 3 KO ties against Greek opposition, we have went through twice.

 

I reckon we'll make it 3 out of 4.

 

 

 

* Slovakia and Ukraine are both lower at 0% but we have only played two games against each.

Edited yesterday at 18:10 by buster.