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2nd time you've brought van dijk into the conversation, who cares about him? At least reading between the lines, we agree it's best Propper is gone. See, we can agree on some things

That's 1 aspect of his play (and we'll agree to disagree). He isn't the fastest, certainly isn't the slowest. He has other characteristics to his game, all mentioned by @Rousseau and he still plays at a decent level. If you can't see or accept that even with his lack of pace, he'd be an upgrade on what we have, you are in for a very long transfer window. Did you think we'd be able to jump directly from Propper to Van Dijk? No, we'll have to improve on what we have, then keep improving.

We live in a world of the Internet. Just go watch some videos of Coady if you don't want to accept he can't run

Sorry, I will rephrase. They were pish in Scotland

There are competitive failures (their niar) and there are catastrophic failures (recent times)

You the one making a thing of the age here, i was ranting about the age one 1 potential target . My original post was they all came from England with high wages, and good references and turned out pish. The post is above. Feel free to read it again

I know I am, but we're talking about Coady.

You're all over the place, are we judging players in this instance on age, if their legs are gone or just labeling everything related to Rangers as pish? Silva proved last season, if played in the correct system, he is a very effective player.

CammyF, he's slower than a week in jail.

Wouldn't say he's "overly slow". His passing, reading of the game amd physicality would suggest he's upgrade to what we currently have. That's all we can hope for; that any new signings are better than the players we currently have.

They were really special, they were young, and still turned out pish

What age were Cantwell and say Silva when we signed them?

I think Coady could be an interesting signing playing in the centre of a back-three, which RM plays often: experienced, physical, and can pass (started as a midfielder at Liverpool). He's definitely slow, though.

Aribo and Bassey, were much much younger. I will give you defoe, kudos 1 from about 10 of the older ones

Well, that's how RM plays - watch some of the informative videos posted here - 2 CBs, holding midfeld player (like Lundstram covering) and wide attacking fullbacks. So should make for a great signing then Sherlock?

Why not mention, Aribo, Bassey, DeFoe et al who were all successes? And you conveniently sidestepped telling us how you've came to the conclusion that Coady's legs have gone?

I just did give you my thoughts. He can't run , his legs gone long ago, and he will only be useful in a 3 men at back situation

So now he's a symbol of a failed era, not the cause? Was John Greig a symbol of a failed era? Good job we never got shot of JG eh.....

Cantwell, Dowell, Barton, Lawrence, Silva,Ben fastasfuck Davies, That's as many as I ran recently remember, that came from England with their shiny high wages and glowing references, all to be pish. I don't expect anything more with the recent bunch of old men and semi injured players in our English radar. Anyone got our sporting directors list if successes from Everton?

No, you mentioned age and walking football, I gave a comparison of age - lets use Davie Weir (again) as a compassion- it appears you are negative reaction no matter what is posted. As for his legs have gone - have you watched much of Coady (if so, give us your thoughts).

Imagine comparing van dijk to this guy. Your happy clapping cornflakes must be strong stuff

Nothing to do with age. The guys legs have gone

This is effectively my point. Tavernier didn't collectively add anything to Rangers, anything celebrated about him is personal accolades. I.e how many goals he scored as a defender. He is symbolic of a failed era. I'd trade all his personal accolades for a Rangers team that won trophies, that's just my opinion.

You can’t win them on your own. Even Greig couldn’t. Tavernier is a below average defender with an astonishingly good attacking flair and an ability to score goals from open play as well as by competently taken penalties and brilliantly struck freekicks. Rangers have had their money’s worth out of him. I would still have preferred an above average defender. He’s not a good captain. He maybe only got the job for lack of anyone better. Goldson wouldn’t have been great at it either and I can’t think of anyone else.

He’ll make some money at WBA but for the sake of his playing career he’d be better staying at Hearts. Aberdeen in January I suspect.