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listen at 32.15 http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00p6bzl/Your_Call_with_Jim_Traynor_05_12_2009/

From David Edgar Hello folks, Here's the latest info as I have it; Ian Tudhope is effectively the Bain of MIH - he has quit. Despite the denials, it's strongly rumoured by people close to the situation that this is because of Muir. Essentially, Muir is running MIH now and, you can safely assume, is having the same impact that he is having at Rangers. http://www.heraldscotland.com/busine...mpire-1.988277 This is absolutely criticial and flies in the face of what Murray and the bank have been saying about his role as an 'advisor'. There will be more from Graham Duffy in the papers over the next few days which should answer questions on his credentials. However, he may or may not be involved as one of the main players in the most likely consortium. This consortium is made up of names you would know, and is very close to making its move. The exact model of fans representation has not been agreed as there will need to be feasability studies done etc. For example, would Duffy's plan be unworkable? Is there more desire for a membership scheme etc. Supporters representation is however a key component to all members of the prospective consortium. The plan is, as it always has been, to get the bank and the failed owner out of Ibrox officially and then instigate the major changes required, including fan ownership. I know it is frustrating, waiting around for things to happen, but things ARE moving and it WILL happen. If you can, get to the AGM, speak out against Lloyds and the previous regime and vote against Muir becoming a Director. The next few days are crucial to the future of our club. If it all goes to plan, we'll start this new decade in style.

Hi guys As I said on saturday, just trying to help with info as some people seem to be getting confused about what this plan is - which is understandable given the amount of stuff swirling around. 1) Duffy has broken cover others are staying quiet at this moment in time. he is PART of a consortium, I am told another two or three big hitters in talks with him and he is the one put up first to talk. 2) They are ALL putting in the same amount to underwrite the debt, and hope to get it for around �£25m from the bank. 3) First stage is to get the club out of the banks hands. Second to see the season out - then rebuild begins, new manager, board etc.. Third to implement fans members club and then all other plans from there. 4) Duffy will not be running club, but will be on new board with the others. 5) They will NOT be making any money. There is no McCann deal here when they buy shares, sell them and get out down the line. 6) Essentially, they will strike a deal with the bank that say ' we will guarantee the debt - now give us the club to run' So they don't put money in initially, but would have to if, say six months down the line the bank call it in. Quite clever move in that, if the fans cash rolls in, the debt will come down naturally in a new business plan - but they still have their own reddies in hand to buy into being part of the 45,000. If they fans numbers don't stack up, they can offset. That's what I am hearing. Told that Duffy has money, most of it from property in the Carribbean, and a lot has changed in his business in nine years since the stuff you are reading. My guess is he is a FRONT just now until the rest get ready to unite - there will be another two defo, and poss a third, and they have money. It's all a game, a dance with the bank right now - Murray was apparantly scrambling yday, trying to find out about Duffy, who the rest are as he is raging now he's out the equation and a deal can be done with the bank direct. Forget this guff about his shares, etcc. The bank have taken Rangers - they can force him to sell the club to whoever they want. Finally, Dave King has made no moves at all.

that murrays shares where 1 pound for the whole lot

a post from rangers media Hi guys The Florida consortium story that has been unveiled in the press today is 100 per cent spot on. The Herald broke the story about the state of Rangers finances a month ago, then floated the fans buyout in the Sunday paper and it's culminated in this. My understanding is that Daryl King - who wrote the story - has been to Florida to meet the guys involved. They have NOT gone to the bank or Murray yet, the story clearly states that, which is why he Murray is technically right when he says no new approach. That's just his normal way of trying to rubbish people - he is dead on his feet and is trying to flush parties out, which has happened today. But this has been worked on for a long time, it's real, it involves the fans and it's been orchestrated all along to come out now. Plenty of people with big money are involved. Murray knows his days are finished, and the new dawn will not be far away if the punters buy into this plan. If I get anymore I will try to update. On way to game guys, so see if I can find anymore out. Just wanted everyone on here to stay calm -this CAN happen. I think the figure mentioned is a one-off �£1000 per head, with 45,000 people targeted over three years. Ie 15,000 fans raising �£15m a a year, and that can be paid up. That money gets you a membership, a vote, and a say. The debt will be covered by the consortium, is what I take from the story. I checked with some sources this morning and it's not a fairy story. King has been working on this guy and others for a while - wonder if they got wind Murray was doing a 'spoiler' and decided to break cover? Just a guess, but would make sense. Now is the time for the fans to step up. I would be in, I have �£3000 set aside I would put in, so that's the first 15000 down to 14997!!!! Good luck today lads, stay safe on the road and get behind the team.

Sky Sports News has had conformation that Scottish Champions Rangers have called a press conference at Murray Park the training ground of the Scottish giants. Sky Sports sources understand that a consortium has bought and will take control of the club with immediate effect. This would be a welcome change for the Rangers fans who have wanted to see a change at the top of their club for a number of years now. Sir David Murray stood down as Chairman and member of the board a few months ago and was replaced by Alastair Johnstone who's first priority for the club was finding a new buyer that had the best interests of Glasgow Rangers Football Club at heart.

By Kenny MacDonald, 22/11/2009 MAJID BOUGHERRA is facing the chop from Rangers' Champions League clash with Stuttgart. The AWOL Algerian World Cup star again failed to turn up as expected before yesterday's 3-0 win over Kilmarnock. Walter Smith has dropped a massive hint he's set to DITCH Madjid Bougherra for Tuesday's make-or-break Champions League game against Stuttgart at Ibrox. The Rangers boss may well keep faith with defensive superkid Danny Wilson. Smith admitted he still hasn't seen or heard from Bougherra, below, following his late return from Algeria's World Cup qualification win against Egypt in Sudan on Wednesday. He expects to see the stopper, who hasn't played for Rangers since September 29, for training at Murray Park today. There was little indication last night that he was intending recalling the defender for the Germans' visit. He said: "He hasn't spoken to anyone but I imagine he's available for Tuesday night. "If he was injured I think he'd have let somebody know. "He'll be in training on Sunday so we'll see how he is then. "The situation as to who plays is a pleasure to deal with. "Danny's a young lad but when he's playing in the manner in which he has been, it's never a problem. "I'm the one who is charged with looking after his career at the present moment and I'll continue to do that. He handled the Champions League game he played in well and there's no great reason why he should not handle another one in exactly the same manner." Kris Boyd, who scored Rangers' opener against Killie, admitted he doesn't know if he'll get the nod for Tuesday despite scoring his eighth goal of the season. He also refused to rule out remaining in international isolation. Boyd said: "I don't know if I'll be part of it on Tuesday but the most important thing for me was to play well and score. If I start on Tuesday, great. If not, I'll prepare myself for hopefully starting against Aberdeen next week. "Like everyone else here, I want to be part of the big European nights and I want to play in big games but I've tasted the other side and I'm used to it. "The Scotland one is a decision I'll have to make in the next couple of months but it could depend on who gets the job. "The next guy might come in and not fancy me but it's not something that's really in my mind at present. "No player is bigger than their country and at the time, the decision I made was right for me. I feel as though I've reaped the benefits at club level. "I'm not ruling out coming back and I'm not ruling out staying retired. "It's a different situation to Barry Ferguson and Allan McGregor. They knew they were in the wrong but if they go back it will be to Scotland's benefit. In the meantime I'm enjoying my football for Rangers because I'm playing more or less every week." Kilmarnock manager Jim Jefferies admitted his side shot themselves in the foot. He said: "I don't think we've come to Ibrox and had as much possession as we had today, or worked their goalkeeper the way we did today but the defending in the first half was shocking." Killie captain Kevin Kyle is likely to be out for a couple of weeks after needing stitches in a face wound after being caught by Allan McGregor's boot. Meanwhile it was revealed that Rangers management team have been GAGGED from talking about the club's financial plight. Smith broke the bombshell news three weeks ago that the club was being run by the banks. Lloyds Bank subsequently issued a statement denying that but after Rangers' net debt rocketed to upwards of �£31million, senior management staff were sent letters to forbid them from speaking publicly about the club's financial position. One member of the coaching staff admitted: "We're now under the takeover panel's jurisdiction and we have all received letters from our legal people saying this inhibits us from making further comments." Smith says no decision will be made regarding his Rangers future until the club has a new owner. His current deal ends in January and he had an agreement with former chairman Sir David Murray that he would work on until the end of the season without a new deal. New chairman Alastair Johnston has said he wants Smith to stay but the Gers boss said: "The club is up for sale, so my view is quite simple. "When that takes place we'll be in a far better place to make a decision, not just in the short term but the longer term as well. "I don't think it's the right time to make any kind of decision. When my contract expires in January will be the first time. At that stage, if I'm asked to stay on I'm happy to do so. If I'm not I will leave. "The new chairman and the previous chairman have said they're happy with me being here to handle this situation until it finishes but circumstances at the club could change, that's why it's difficult for anybody to make a decision just now. "There are boys at the club who are out of contract and it has not been possible to make them offers. The management staff are the same. "You just want to wait and see what happens. If there are new owners they might clear the lot of us out. It's not a matter of speculation, that's just the way it's got to be. When the position is rectified will be the time to make a decision but now isn't the time to do that."

about the 4 guys who are going to buy rangers i think they are tom hunter souness gillespie and douglas park

Rangers fans threaten to boycott Lloyds TSB ... more soon evening times website

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there has been lots of rumours about souness gillespie and the guy who owns highland spring

souness has not ruled out of being part of a consortium to buy rangers

give us 6 million for mcgregor and 3 million for boyd and i would sell that is 9 million that with the champions league money will clear a lot of the debt of

about the meeting with the fans

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i have just got a text message from a pal of mine and he has heard that the dave king consortium with douglas park and paul murray have got the club they will pay the whole 30 million to loyds and going to appoint a new management team soon my mate has said that it will be in the press tomorrow from do the bouncy.com

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i was thinking has anyone else heard news about a takeover happening soon

im saying play the exprience players in the tough games in the league like celtic hearts hibs aberdeen dundee united and motherwell and europe but play youngsters in the cups and some easy games in the spl like hamilton st mirren and falkirk at home

strachan can have miller for 3 million and i would put naismith and boyd up front

i think 7 or 8 youngstes should get a lot moe game time this season the likes of lowing mcmillan wilson wylde shinnie ness fleck loy and little could all come in and do a job i think especially when we are at home to a bottom 6 team in the spl the likes of hamilton st mirren falkirk st johnstone and in cup games

you can have him for 7 million mcleish

what foum was it

with graham gillespie and the guy who owns highland spring well a lot of rumours today saying that might happen it is between them and donald trump or shane mcmahon

i was wanting to go on it today and it said it is offline