buster.

Rangers 3 Aberdeen 1

Morelos

9 hours ago, 26th of foot said:

 I will ask again, how do they do it?

At its base, beyond the current more receptive political environment (for them), they are generally much better at the game than we are. I think that in part, it comes from a rebellious culture that comes naturally to them, whilst generally, we are too tunnel visioned and unimaginative.

(I say we, if we are talking about the football side of things but when it comes to religion, I haven't time for any)

41 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Hope MB and Wilson are all over this.....

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64267013

 

 

Just what we need, another "poor attitude" (De Zerbi quote) 😁

6 minutes ago, RANGERRAB said:

Genuinely hope I’m wrong if we’re signing Cantwell. Seems to me another Deli Ali. 

Reliable sauce just saw Deli Ali in The Louden eating a free pie.

21 minutes ago, CammyF said:

I don't doubt Lowery has the same ambition but does he have the same drive and determination? If he does, he'll get game time and get his rewards.

 

Patterson and even moreso, Bassey were forces of nature that drove down their respective wings and delivered.

Physique and power are very important in todays game and I think help give Tillman the advantage over Lowry, as it stands.

4 hours ago, Frankie said:

If you're at all nervous about Sunday's game then don't watch this superb 60sec pod promo from @Fat Eck...

 

Eck and @BA94will be live tonight at 9pm with the full version.

 

 

 

Eck is a rough diamond.

Should be doing RTV.

5 minutes ago, CammyF said:

The manager has already stated he believes Lowry will have a great Rangers career (mentions him again this weeks press conference) but that'll be more reliant on Lowry than MB or however the manager is.

I agree that a lot more depends on the lad himself.

Too many youngsters don't apply themselves enough. They don't want it badly enough.

Beale is good to listen to but I get the impression that a lot of it is window dressing.

Nobody wanted to watch a Gio presser and its make a cup of tea and get the biscuits out for the Beale show.

I thought Gerrard got the tone and content just right in pressers. 

No big deal, it is the results that matter.

1 hour ago, Frankie said:

Cantwell looking increasingly likely going by comments from Beale today

Whatever misgivings or doubts anyone has about individual players, we really have to give the manager a chance to bring his players in and build his way.

The degrees of pressure at Rangers will mean that 95%+ of the time, developing youngsters will get pushed down the pecking order when the manager can bring in more expreienced players. Pressure that makes establishing a player trading model much more challenging. 

No player trading model and our finances don't work.

Unforunately, Lowry would be better off going elsewhere and getting regular first team football.

2 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

Don't you know that Gerrard and Lampard can't play together?

Joint Managers with Scholes as number 2

On 09/01/2023 at 16:00, compo said:

Lampard 41 matches in charge of the Toffees and only 12 wins time to chase him .

Frank could slot in nicely at Chelsea and given it is still the first half of January, could go for the record of how many times you can get sacked in a calendar year. 

Or he could team up with Gerrard and see if together, they can do it in the EPL 😄

41 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

Rangers 3 - 2 Aberdeen

 

FGS Tillman

What happened to 1zip ?

7 minutes ago, Devil's advocaat said:

Agreed Bill, Lowry will hopefully flourish up there. 

He has the talent, he needs to show he has the mentality and work his butt off wherever he spends the next few months.

3 hours ago, Malangsob said:

I am sorry Buster, but we are gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

Cantwell is just another in a long line if guys who will cycle through our team, and produce didley squat...just like he has in England.

 

A star that could have been...the next big thing.

 

Plus, he looks too much like Paul Walker from the Fast and Furious movie series

 

 

  

 

...and we all know what happened to that guy...didn't end well.

 

Not a good sign if you ask me. 

 

 

I don't disagree wrt which I would rather have, if it were a straight choice.

Disclaimer

- I don't know much about either but am looking at profile / type of signings.

7 hours ago, Malangsob said:

If we sign this Cantwell clown I am gonna lose it.

Even YouTube can't make this guy look good.

His highlight video is him walking, eating a hotdog.

Cho Geong Sung on the other hand---good Korean prospect--I would like to see that guy in a Rangers shirt. 

 

 

Is there a hidden message in that post ?

That Cantwell would have the Cho Cho chap on toast ?

😆

10 hours ago, CammyF said:

But the manager will always have the last say on who we take the gamble on. 

The way it should be IMO.

- the club (any club) obviously have to hope that they have the right manager in.

- given average player contract length and average manager longevity it comes with obvious danger

- At Rangers there is huge pressure on results so most managers won't side with youth development, even though they may initially talk about it. Some fans want it both ways but until we produce top class players or have no money, it will play a secondary role. When we produce top class youngsters, they are poached....just as we poach from the rungs below us.

11 hours ago, CammyF said:

Bassey is a great example - written of at LCFC and written off by many at Rangers early in his career.

 

However no doubting Basseys hunger and desire and IMO that was driven as much by SG and MB as it was by Bassey himself.

 

That's why I liked Beales comments about wanting to look players in the eye before signing them.

 

I agree, Bassey is a great example but those stars will probably align once in a while.

I don't think there is any doubt that it was his physique aligned to attitude that were the main drivers. We provided the coaching and opportunity. Patterson was also a big and powerful lad who had real belief. Size and power seem to matter. 

Beale talks a good game and that has had a positive effect on our determination to eek out results, often in the second half of games. However, I wouldn't put much weight on soundbites in press conferences (he was big on loyalty at QPR, until he wasn't). The proof will simply be in the pudding and that will come soon enough.

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We need to trust in MBs ability to indetify "hidden gems" and turn them into players.

 

I willing to give Beale (as well as Cantwell and Davies if they sign) the benefit of doubt (let's face it, Beale hasn't even had 2 weeks of 1 window and some are writing him and the aforementioned players off).

Fingers crossed because we don't need more non-producing large salaries, eg. Matondo.

Just now, CammyF said:

But isn't that always gonna be the case given where we are financially?

 

Even when we were shopping at "Harrods" we still managed to buy some duds. 

The club will have to develop fit and hungry players and add the value.

It might mean a fallow year or so but at least it might go somewhere.

Rather than sign guys with your fingers crossed who might have once been a player or is a player when you can keep him fit. The road to a repetitive nowhere.

1 minute ago, CammyF said:

We must have had some decent windows prior to winning 55 and getting to Europa League Final. 

My memory isn't what it once was.

Gerrard built a squad in his first year or two but since then....some individuals have been good but collectively ?

Just now, Bill said:

I bloody hope it's very different

Hence the interest.

Recruitment this year had better be excellent or we'll be getting nowhere fast.

Can't remember the last decent window we have had.

10 hours ago, PoohBear said:

My mate is a Norwich fan and he said this about Cantwell:

 

"Great natural talent, not the fastest but can carry the ball well and work his way out of tight spaces with ease, he was an England u21 international 3 years ago but has gone downhill due to a bad attitude and inconsistent application to training, 3 different managers (incl loan to Bournemouth) gave him a chance and ended up removing him from the squad. Has a habit of shooting himself in the foot with social media use too. Apparently his agent is a nightmare tooz feeding his unrealistic ego and trying to get a move for years. Basically he's a championship Dele Ali haha
 

Shame as he's actually from Norwich so could have been a legend here... But fans are tired of the constant issues, sulking and mini dramas now and most would agree a move away is best for everyone"

 

Sounds to me like a player with lots of quality who needs some very good man management to get anything out of him. I guess he's on his last chance so who knows if Beale can get a tune out of him, but if he does then it could be a great signing.

Haven't a scooby about the player but if the above is true that three different managers got fed up with him and jettisoned him, then the gambling odds become longer.

I have droned on about bringing in too many players on long odds gambles, whether it be for injury history, attitude or whatever. It's akin to punters doing football accumulators.

It has been the plan to bridge the financial gap.

ie. (ex)quality on the relative cheap, hoping to keep them fit or provide the right motivation.

Personally, I don't think it is the way to go.

Developing mostly hungry, fit and motivated young players has to be the way forward. 

It will be very interesting to see what the squad looks like come the end of the summer transfer window.

18 minutes ago, Frankie said:

There's no doubt Morelos is bigger than at other periods but not hugely so.

 

Worth noting for context, he missed the best part of 5 months due to a muscle injury - hampering his fitness for at least that length of time and the manager insists he's carrying a knock again now perhaps hampering his ability to work at 100% in training outwith games.

 

Do we accept that context or is he lazy? I'd suggest a combination of both but most crucially is we sort out his future one way or the other asap.

Also worth noting that he has already been called out for his attitude this season by the first team manager.

10 hours ago, RANGERRAB said:

It should not be the main market we’re in though. Far from it.
As well as developing our own players from the academy, we should be looking at home & abroad for young players to develop & sell on. Like Bassey & Aribo.
Will Tom Davies or Cantwell bring us anything like Bassey & Aribo did? 

I tend to agree.

However, there is an element of backing your manager's judgement. 

Cost wise, the agents of TD and NC have a good negotiating base (initial pressure on club to give new manager what he has gone public about) and the salaries would likely be relatively high.

22 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

I don't catch Off The Ball often these days but I caught some of it on Saturday. They'd a couple of ex-refs on and  I assume they'd hoped to further fuel the Ange bonfire that Scottish VAR and refereeing was being placed upon. Instead, at least while I was listening, the ex-refs laughed at the ridiculousness of these allegations of bias against the Celtic. One of them, (was his name Conroy?) explained he was a Celtic fan and once got pelters from his pals for chalking off a Celtic 'goal' against us. Both easily explained the 'hand ball' rule and expressed surprise that Ange and co didn't know it. Cosgrove sounded uncomfortable at this breaking out of common sense, Cowan, to his credit, mocked Celtic and their acolytes. 

Aye, generally the issue seems more to do with the hand ball rule / interpretation, than it is with VAR.

1 minute ago, Rousseau said:

The case for Goldson for his consistency over the last two games:

 

 

We have the answer to our goalkeeping problem already in the building 😁

58 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

There's a strange fascination with his build.  He's never been a skinny sort. 

 

Anyway, he came on yesterday and we immediately improved.  Not bad for a Sunday League player.

If he were more mobile, I wouldn't have a problem with his build.

He used to be more mobile.

We improved more down to a general increase in urgency and tempo.

The style of Morelos suited our game, more than an ineffective, injured and not matchfit Colak. 

1 minute ago, Gonzo79 said:

He's clearly not at his best and I agree we should be looking to part ways but I think that's a bit OTT.  

You see a lot of players with his current build and mobility in non league football.

Probably in the Scottish lower leagues as well.