Danny

Has Healy scored 5 goals in 2 starts and 3 sub appearances?

You might be on your own with that particular sentiment!

Furthermore Commons and McCourt get little playing time. And if you're including Izaguirre for them what about Wallace for us?

I believe it's 50 50 tbh. Ally has made errors, yes, and hasn't found the right system yet, but the players have been appalling individually for large patches in the last 3 months. McGregor, Whittaker, Davis, Jelavic, McCulloch - none of these guys have been in any sort of form. Edu's been patchy, and Wylde is currently out of form too. The only players we have in form are Wallace, Boca, and maybe Aluko. Goian has been a wee bit off the boil in the last month as well. Sooner both units (team and management) click fully into gear, the better.

None taken bud, it's just your post seemed to be criticising comments I didn't make! I didn't say sack Ally, indeed I suggested few could do better given our current predicament and squad. It's only fair to condemn him though, on one level, given he's struggled for 3 months to find a solution to the loss of Naismith and as manager has failed to do that. If he was Mourinho or Capello and had similarly failed to arrest the slide following Naismith, I'd similarly find fault in that aspect of their management. To answer your last point, if we win the league this year then every player and the management staff will get all the credit their deserve. Luck does not win you the league. But to achieve that, he'll (and the team) will have had to find a solution to get us consistently winning again. Unfortunately, Ally, as Rangers manager, will never get a break - this is a club that has to win every match it players otherwise all hell breaks loose. Walter never got a break either, but he earned our trust when he confused us as he'd proven himself a winner. Ally's on his maiden voyage, we don't know yet if he's a winner. One thing on Ally's side though, I remember 3 years ago Walter went through a terrible spell - and guess what? We won the league. So perhaps Ally and the players will bring us out of this and we'll go onto win the league. Here's hoping!

Possibly ki? Maybe forrest? We have davis, wylde, aluko. Truth is kayal was arguably their naisy. I'll be intrigued to see their fortunes without him.

If their fortunes start to decline over the coming weeks and even months, you heard it here first.

I've not seen a single post calling for his head on here. A few questions, and the odd doubt, but no one asking for him to be fired. Strangely enough in the entire absence of Jelavic and Lafferty. And Wallace having a very good match.

I have zero against you 54, but your post so wildly misunderstands everything I just said and puts enough words in my mouth to fill up a newspaper than I feel clarifying my point of view would be futile.

Just learned that arguably Celtic's best player, Kayal, is out for 4 months. He was the central creative force in the middle and while I don't watch a huge amount of Celtic, everything went through him. I don't know if he's as crucial to them as Naismith was to us, but they've lost a key player in a creative position, and they might just struggle a bit now without him. Be interesting to see how they cope.

Blog relating to this (not mine): http://t.co/CsDjpIZ9

Bit both for me tbh. The players have mostly bar Wallace, Bocanegra and ... wow, that's it. Those are the only 2 who have looked at the races recently. But you're right, Ally as well as the players must take blame. I'm not one for blaming the players on their own. Ally has to take some of the responsibility too. As a unit, players and management right now are not in symbiosis.

McMillan and Bendiksen both knocking back new contracts? This doesn't bode well.

I know some of you wanted him to take some absence from the first team, well I read on SSN's ticker than he's going to require surgery so I suspect he'll be away for a good couple of months. Which probably means more outings either for Broadfoot or Bartley. In RB. If I read it wrong and he doesn't need surgery I stand corrected.

I know this thread was inspired by me choosing Wylde over Wallace and a few folk disagreeing, but the truth is I completely forgot about Wallace and would have put him in as LB over Papac It's good to have strength on the left. Pity it's lacking elsewhere though.

But as I alluded to, do you think Mourinho, Capello or Guardiola would get more out of these players? I really don't know.

That is absolutely true, and as a result you have a find an alternative system which doesn't rely on what Naismith gave. You find a different formation, give different tasks to different players, and find something which compensates for the loss. If Barca lost Messi, they'd have no one who could do for them what Messi does. So they'd have to find a different system to accommodate the players they have left. That's what Ally's been trying to find all this time, and just can't yet. I read a point online about Celtic - basically it said that Kayal and Brown were giving Hooper the service that Davis and Edu are failing to deliver Jelavic. Maybe that's now the difference between the two sides?

SSN reporting that Sochaux have made Edu their top target this window. Wonder why, tbh, but I suspect few would be horrified at the sale as long as we at least break even on it.

You said you couldn't disagree more, but the problem is I am divided on my opinion. So is it half of me you disagree with and half you're agreeing with

You answered it yourself - he didn't get the grief till the 15 point gap was gone. People weren't questioning too much his odd choices until recently, when our performances went to crap. Personally I am not sure how much blame I attribute to him and how much can be rested on the loss of Naismith. That single injury seems to have swung everything, and truth is, many of us foresaw it. Ally's problem is he hasn't managed, in 3 months, to find an alternative solution to compensate. I always said that was the challenge he faced, and if I'm honest he's failed to deliver on that front. But with the squad we currently have, I don't know who would do any better.

I have my doubts about Ally but I think he deserves our support this season at least. He's made some bizarre decisions but with the complete lack of money we seem to have, I'm not sure how even Mourinho could make our current squad any better than it currently is. Truth is who was the last manager we had who we all agreed on every decision he made? None. Go back to Souness - ditched Ally. Walter, signed some real shite (Cleland, Wright, Boli). Advocaat, spent way too much and created a Dutch divide, Eck - Wattereus over Klos and other odd decisions, PLG - constantly saying it was his choice every time he made a bizarre decision, Walter - some baffling decisions the second time round. Success or not, all managers are their own men and will do things some fans will not agree with. Ally has to become successful for those decisions to be trusted by said fans, and he hasn't achieved that. Walter had.

Carroll has literally one strength, his heading, which is arguably the best in Britain. Problem is that relies on crosses and lots of aerial balls which Liverpool do NOT do. Lack of that service has exposed the incredible average nature of the rest of his game. In fact, I'd argue that he's even more limited than Kris Boyd. What Dalglish was doing playing him alone up front against City is beyond me.

http://ibroxnoise.blogspot.com/2012/01/is-jelly-seton-leaving.html Latest blog and first of the year. An appraisal of Jelavic's time from signing to the present.

He's been badly out of form this season, along with others, and on current form isn't worth £7M. But he's still, when at his best, the best Scottish keeper around. The thing is he's 29 now and there's a tenuous case to suggest this might be him on the way down in terms of form. Half of me would take the money and run given his displays this year, the other half thinks he's utterly terrific when he's on form and I'd be mad to sell. I'd choose him over Alexander any day of the week anyway...

Fleck didn't impress me yesterday. He played it safe and didn't really do much of note. He played in his proper position but I still don't see signs from him of the quality he'd need to become a regular.