Walterbear

They look good in Scotland because they are permitted to kick opponents all over the park. Take that out their game and they are bog standard at best. 

40 minutes ago, pete said:

I suppose we will see what the charge is. For me it is not assault as there was no attempt at battery.

Aye but that’s not the law in Scotland Pete. I don’t have to be a gangster to assault anyone. A slap in the face or back if the head is sufficient. As you say we will see. 

2 hours ago, ian1964 said:

Ah! I understand now, the Hibs fan missed Tav so it is not assaulted or attacked! silly me

Didn’t miss him. Watch his left elbow on the first contact as he’s kicking out. 

2 hours ago, pete said:

To be honest he didn't really attack Tavernier in the sense of committing grievous bodily harm. That doesn't excuse the idiot though.

He assaults Tav. As he kicks the ball and possibly intends to hurt Tav in that action his left elbow simultaneously connects with Tavs head. Go on Twitter and freeze frame through the sequence. Tav pushes out an arm to defend himself and the thug connects weakly with Tav again.  Assault every day of the week in Scots Law. No one is suggesting it’s GBH but that’s not the point. 

Good points raised there. Working together is vital given the unprecedented attacks on the club, fans and players. 

On 06/03/2019 at 20:06, ranger_syntax said:

Red card for Ryan Jack.

Alfredo looking on with intent. Double Red. 

My hazy rather drunk recollection is the guy was trying to kick through the ball and use that momentum to sneakily kick Tav at the same time and then try and square up to him. I saw it as an attack and it nearly started a rammy in the pub I was in between me and a Hibs fan. So these incidents don’t just affect the immediate environment but they can lead to knock on effects. It’s grossly irresponsible journalism to describe it as anything other than an attack. When the BBC described the Cup Final as exuberance and failed to nail the guy who hit Wallace with a golf Brolly they are complicit in setting an agenda of violent attacks on players being acceptable behaviour, which other fans then mimic. It’s clear that Rangers players are deemed acceptable targets by many fans and the standards applied in the media to incidents involving Neil Lennon, Steve Clarke and Scott Sinclair are different to those standards applied to what is now a lengthening list of Rangers players who have been attacked. Now some on the BBC have condemned it, others are ambiguous and the usual suspects say nothing or apply weak editorial standards. 

BBC today said they couldn’t talk about it as an attack as it was a police matter. That is bollox. They rightly condemned the Lennon incident by the Hearts thug as an attack whilst the police were investigating it. 

It always amazes me incidentally that stick insects think they would get the better of a professional athlete in such circumstances. 

If Tav has leathered him he would have got a red card (true it’s in the rules) and he’d probably be facing a charge. He did well to hold back. 

Accusing folk of being boring and hardly worthy of your attention but doing it in such a long winded post doesn’t reflect clarity of purpose but it sure does show a fine sense of irony.  

We now are lead to believe he knew the petition was useless except to stimulate debate amongst fellow Bears. 

If you feck something up it’s usually better to hold your hands up, identify the error and either fix it or learn for next time rather than attack your target audience. 

Its a pity because a petition handled properly was a good idea. James Dornan is one of the last people who should be sitting on a panel of elected MSPs trying to eradicate sectarianism. Apart from anything else he’s thick and not competent to do the job, in fact I’d question his competence to do any serious job. 

First 45 minutes we were brilliant and even breathtaking. Seen a lot of negativity but keep putting pieces in the jigsaw and we’re absolutely going in the right direction under SG. 

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9 hours ago, ian1964 said:

Morelos didn't have a disciplinary record prior to joining Rangers, much the same as Jack!

He’s scored against spartak and rapid. 

Dermot press people unsettling him I suspect. And where is that conflict of interest thread re the SPFL / INM bloke?

He’s a poor mans arfield. 

The whole team needs to be on the A game and take some pressure off him. Lots of attacking support from midfield and wide so he’s not battling alone against their limited thugs.  

I would buy a safe standing ‘seat’ but I wouldn’t be part of UB. It’s not easy to sing and create an atmosphere when you’re surrounded by folk in main stand for example who don’t want to do that. Atmosphere upgrade can only be beneficial to Rangers provided anti social behaviour addressed. 

2 minutes ago, MacK1950 said:

Whole front row would mean those behind having to stand it would have to be whole front section,which would mean too big an upheaval for season ticket holders.

Sorry meant section ie bottom half of either stand. Agree upheaval issue but I’d wager you could find lots of folk from around stadium would swap out. Logistically tricky but no more than that with some clever IT. 

4 hours ago, ian1964 said:

 

That’s cost both clubs over a hundred grand. Scottish fitba summed up. 

Whole front row of Broomloan or Copland would be ideal.  It would transform the stadium atmosphere. 

20 minutes ago, Bill said:

You know what, Alfredo Morelos is the best player in Scotland right now, he's going to finish the season as the country's leading goal scorer, he's going to sign for one of the biggest clubs in one of the biggest leagues in the world, he's going to play in world cups and he's going to have a hugely successful career. Meanwhile, the no-marks at BBC Scotland will still be speaking shit to an audience of muppets in a backwater of bigotry that no one pays any attention to and where the media cares about nothing but selling prejudice to survive.

When people bid for Morelos they are not going to take account of Michael Stewart, ‘EBT house in Arran’ Thompson  or Jonathan Sutherland valuations. These people are football nonentities outside of the PQ canteen.  

2 hours ago, 26th of foot said:

I was watching Sportscene last evening and their highlights(AlfredoCam) of the Aberdeen v Rangers cup tie contained a several second sequence that encapsulates BBC Scotland's problem. It's the second half and there is a scuffle developing outside Aberdeen's penalty box. The Commentator(Hamilton?) is screaming, "why is Morelos running to get involved"? The slo-mo replay proves it's Kamara who is involved.

 

Those black players in Rangers blue, they all look the same and should be hated the same.

Morelos was in the vicinity. He didn’t run anywhere and was actually calming things down. 

3 hours ago, Bluedell said:

We don't really need it over the summer as we'll have most of the season ticket cash in by then. It's really just Feb-May 

True but we’re going to buy players too. 

So, 3 areas of short term expenditure. Maintenance, players, SD. Some of that could be phased. 

14 hours ago, forlanssister said:

It's really not we've nearly always borrowed at this time of year it used to be Ticketus which was repaid before it had to appear in the accounts.

 

I'm not sure why the charge was previously released if the intention was to use it again seems a waste of form filling.

Take your point FS. 

Having the facility for the summer months also makes sense for maintenance projects etc. 

Timing is interesting given April court case with SD.