The RST found it's role at last?

[maineflyer 0]

Let's not confuse UEFA with David Murray and his willingness and ability to get certain 'supporters' to promote his own personal agenda by interpretating UEFA's statements and turning them into something they never were.

 

There's no such thing as simple truth in the sordid world of Rangers ............ we've been owned by an inveterate liar for twenty years and it has rubbed off on an awful lot of people over that time.

[Zappa 0]

Any idea what the source of that quote is ?

eg, where it came from?

I know where it was lifted from but where did they get it ?

because nothing like that was EVER posted on the UEFA website

 

Is it a newspaper report ? Do we believe everything in the tabloids

Is it a bheast fabrication ?

Who wrote it and where did they get their information from ?

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Do you actually expect me to be able to answer any of those questions or are you specifically asking questions you already know can't be answered? Nevermind in fact. I know the answer!

 

Someone within the club must have passed this supposed 'UEFA Directive' onto someone involved with the Assembly. No, I don't know who wrote it or what the source of their info was & I don't know who passed it from whoever wrote it to someone involved with the RSA. I'd be very surprised if that information is ever revealed, but you never know.

[wabashcannonball 0]

Reasons for Rangers decision

 

 

UEFA has issued the reasoning behind its disciplinary decision against Scottish club Rangers FC, announced yesterday.

 

Fined for incidents

The European body fined Rangers FC €13,000 for incidents at their UEFA Champions League first knockout round tie against Spanish outfit Villarreal CF last month.

 

Crowd disturbances

UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Body imposed the fine on Rangers following the improper conduct of some of their supporters, notably the smashing of a window of the Villarreal team bus at the second-leg match in Spain on 7 March.

 

Not guilty

The body declared the Rangers fans not guilty of alleged discriminatory chants at both legs of the tie, which Villarreal won on the away-goals rule after the two sides had finished 3-3 on aggregate. The body’s decision can be appealed against within three days.

 

Social problem

In examining the alleged discriminatory chants, the Control & Disciplinary Body admitted that the nature of the song concerned – “Billy Boys” - related to a social problem in Scotland. The body also believed that the disciplinary decision in this case had to be taken in the context of Scotland’s social and historical background.

 

Studied evidence

After studying the evidence at hand as well as the statement of Rangers FC, the Control & Disciplinary Body conceded that supporters have been singing the song "Billy Boys" for years during national and international matches without either the Scottish football or governmental authorities being able to intervene. The result is that this song is now somehow tolerated.

 

Social and historical context

Given this social and historical context, the Control & Disciplinary Body said it considered that UEFA cannot demand an end to behaviour which has been tolerated for years. In view of the above, the Control & Disciplinary Body ruled that, despite the behaviour of its supporters, Rangers FC had not infringed Article 5 of the UEFA Disciplinary Regulations (click here) and cannot be punished according to Article 6.

 

http://tinyurl.com/2cjuop9

[rbr 1,247]

Reasons for Rangers decision

 

 

UEFA has issued the reasoning behind its disciplinary decision against Scottish club Rangers FC, announced yesterday.

 

Fined for incidents

The European body fined Rangers FC ââ??¬13,000 for incidents at their UEFA Champions League first knockout round tie against Spanish outfit Villarreal CF last month.

 

Crowd disturbances

UEFA's Control and Disciplinary Body imposed the fine on Rangers following the improper conduct of some of their supporters, notably the smashing of a window of the Villarreal team bus at the second-leg match in Spain on 7 March.

 

Not guilty

The body declared the Rangers fans not guilty of alleged discriminatory chants at both legs of the tie, which Villarreal won on the away-goals rule after the two sides had finished 3-3 on aggregate. The body�s decision can be appealed against within three days.Social problem

In examining the alleged discriminatory chants, the Control & Disciplinary Body admitted that the nature of the song concerned ââ?¬â?? ââ?¬Å?Billy Boysââ?¬Â - related to a social problem in Scotland. The body also believed that the disciplinary decision in this case had to be taken in the context of Scotlandââ?¬â?¢s social and historical background.

 

Studied evidence

After studying the evidence at hand as well as the statement of Rangers FC, the Control & Disciplinary Body conceded that supporters have been singing the song "Billy Boys" for years during national and international matches without either the Scottish football or governmental authorities being able to intervene. The result is that this song is now somehow tolerated.

 

Social and historical context

Given this social and historical context, the Control & Disciplinary Body said it considered that UEFA cannot demand an end to behaviour which has been tolerated for years. In view of the above, the Control & Disciplinary Body ruled that, despite the behaviour of its supporters, Rangers FC had not infringed Article 5 of the UEFA Disciplinary Regulations (click here) and cannot be punished according to Article 6.

 

http://tinyurl.com/2cjuop9

 

I may be wrong on this but they did appeal and did win the appeal , that's where the problem lies , I am prepared to be shot down hopefully I am wrong

[Frankie 8,151]

UEFA (via Herr Kapl) appealed their own decision which is why we were eventually fined.

[wabashcannonball 0]

Rangers appeal upheld

 

 

UEFA's Appeals Body has today partially upheld the appeal made against the Control and Disciplinary Body's decision concerning Scottish club Rangers FC and their UEFA Champions League first knockout round tie against Villarreal CF.

 

Rangers fined

UEFA appealed against the decision on 12 April by the Control and Disciplinary Body to find Rangers not guilty of alleged discriminatory chants by the club's supporters at both legs of the tie, on 22 February at Ibrox and 7 March at El Madrigal. Rangers have been fined €19,500 and severely warned about their responsibility for any future misconduct by their fans in relation to sectarian and discriminatory behaviour.

 

Future directives

In addition, the Appeals Body will combine the disciplinary measures with directives safeguarding the correct execution of the judgement. The directives themselves will be communicated to Rangers along with the full written grounds for the disciplinary decision.

 

http://en.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/matchorganisation/disciplinary/news/newsid=414229.html#uefa+appeal+rangers+verdict

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Let's not confuse UEFA with David Murray and his willingness and ability to get certain 'supporters' to promote his own personal agenda by interpretating UEFA's statements and turning them into something they never were.

 

There's no such thing as simple truth in the sordid world of Rangers ............ we've been owned by an inveterate liar for twenty years and it has rubbed off on an awful lot of people over that time.

 

 

 

 

Dont believe you