Blue Moon 1,113 Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 Chances are it is not just the transfer ban but also giving up right to appeal which leaves us wide open to God knows what. This is nothing but vindictiveness and should not be accepted. We have accepted too much in recent years and need to start defending ourselves. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon 1,113 Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 Not technically the same, as the transfer window doesn't apply to free agents. It is not the signing it is the registration that is blocked, so it doesn't matter if they are free transfers. The original ban said under 19's were allowed iirc. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCF2008 0 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Chances are it is not just the transfer ban but also giving up right to appeal which leaves us wide open to God knows what. This is nothing but vindictiveness and should not be accepted. We have accepted too much in recent years and need to start defending ourselves. No doubt any expected prosecutions / convictions of fraud against Rangers would be interpreted by the SFA as bringing the game into disrepute. Even though, same as last time we'd be the victims, you can be sure the corrupt SFA would want to punish us for it. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCF2008 0 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 It is not the signing it is the registration that is blocked, so it doesn't matter if they are free transfers. The original ban said under 19's were allowed iirc. It was under 18's and you're right about the registration. We could sign players and loan them out for a season possibly, although I'm not sure how the registration would work on that one. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCF2008 0 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Was it not also speculated that the transfer embargo may be suspended to allow us to bring in replacements during this window? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeeBlueDevil 0 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 It was under 18's and you're right about the registration. We could sign players and loan them out for a season possibly, although I'm not sure how the registration would work on that one. My take on that is that a player first has to be registered with the SFA before we could loan him out. If i'm right then signing players and loaning them out would not be a option for us . I could be wrong though 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 0 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Green on SSN. Vinny @DarcheVinnyJW:Manager & players must just want to play? CG: Players like Goian have been loyal, but cant expect them to stay & understand why Vinny @DarcheVinnyRT @Gundalun: CG "we haven't got many players. Goian tremendously loyal, going to lose players (cont) http://tl.gd/ic11l4 Vinny @DarcheVinnyRT @Gundalun: CG "unfair on Ally to manage team, when SFA still want to put transfer embargo and we'll have no players at all" Vinny @DarcheVinnyRT @Gundalun: CG "Unless I accept sanctions, we will not be be granted permission to join SFA. There will be job losses at RFC". Vinny @DarcheVinnyRT @Gundalun: CG "Goian, Boca & Edu had agreed to stay in Div1, but Div3 is too much to ask". Fair play to them. Vinny @DarcheVinny RT @Gundalun: CG "this club needs Rangers fans to get behind it in it's desperate hour. Club will survive sins of oldco". 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1872 4 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 interview on SSN Vinny@DarcheVinny JW: can you outline what issues there are with the SFA? CG: Transfer embargo, fines, football debts, key for newco to accept sins of oldco JW:Manager & players must just want to play? CG: Players like Goian have been loyal, but cant expect them to stay & understand why CG "we haven't got many players. Goian tremendously loyal, going to lose players CG "unfair on Ally to manage team, when SFA still want to put transfer embargo and we'll have no players at all". CG "Unless I accept sanctions, we will not be be granted permission to join SFA. There will be job losses at RFC". CG "Goian, Boca & Edu had agreed to stay in Div1, but Div3 is too much to ask". Fair play to them CG "this club needs Rangers fans to get behind it in it's desperate hour. Club will survive sins of oldco". CG "I'm starting to believe I'm winning them (Bears) over". What do we think about that? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon 1,113 Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 Full text of STV article. Rangers' prospects of playing in Scottish football this season remain uncertain because of a stand-off between the Scottish FA and the club's owners. STV understands Sevco Scotland, led by Charles Green, is currently unwilling to accept the re-imposition of a 12-month signing embargo, originally placed upon the club by the governing body on May 11. The Scottish FA has made clear it will only transfer Rangers' membership to the new company if it either agrees to the imposition of the registration ban or elects to again go before the governing body's appellate tribunal. Lord Glennie previously ruled in a hearing at a Court of Session that the Scottish FA had acted outwith its powers in imposing the ban on the Ibrox club. The court ordered the Scottish FA to reconvene its appellate tribunal to impose a different sanction from its rule book, but this is currently on hold until Sevco chief executive Mr Green either accepts the original punishment or demands an alternative by forcing the tribunal to sit again The two parties must reach an agreement before Rangers' season starts in 12 days time. Ally McCoist's side are due to play a Ramsdens Cup tie away to Brechin City on July 28. Thrown out If the newco owners, who bought over Rangers' assets in a £5.5m deal, refuse the proposal, the governing body will be left one further option involving the transfer of membership. It could transfer the membership but allow its appellate tribunal to reconvene, leaving open the possibility of Rangers either being suspended from the game for an indefinite period or being thrown out of the game altogether. The sanctions available to the panel are unlikely to be palatable to the club, as they include the potential suspension or expulsion of the club from the Scottish game, as well as possible ejection from the Scottish Cup. Should Sevco refuse to meet the Scottish FA’s demands, it will be forced to apply for a completely new membership not tied to the former club. Should those conditions be declined by Mr Green's company, the Scottish FA will refuse to transfer the membership and, as the newco does not meet the necessary requirements, Rangers will not play professional football in Scotland for at least the next year. If the company led by Mr Green accepts the imposition of the signing ban, Rangers will take up a place as an associate member of the Scottish Football League and will play in the Third Division this season. Clubs must have membership of the national association to play in a league. The Scottish FA also want Mr Green to agree to pay all outstanding football debt as another condition of the membership being transferred. It is also insisting on the new company taking responsibility for any sanctions later imposed by the Scottish Premier League following its investigation into alleged non-contractual payments to players. At a meeting on Monday, Sevco chief executive Mr Green told Ibrox employees there would be a "staffing review" following the decision of the Scottish Football League to place the club in the Third Division for the 2012/13 season. Final hurdle Speaking to Sky Sports News later on Monday, Mr Green said he would meet with the governing body for further talks on Tuesday and insisted a resolution had to be found urgently. He said: "The key thing is the issues outstanding with the Scottish FA. Most of the items have been talked about for weeks and weeks, those being the signing embargo, fines that were put out there, and payments to football clubs in terms of transfers. "Where we sit at the moment is at we are in the SFL but we can't play a friendly. The first cup game is in under two weeks. "The difficulty we have is we have been working for weeks on these issues and there is a point where, unless I as CEO accept these sanctions, then we won't be granted permission to join the Scottish FA. "For us, it is a balance between what is fair and appropriate and what is required. "I addressed the staff today because there will be job losses and the implications are huge. We need to draw this matter to an end now and get the Scottish FA to agree membership for us, get on with our lives and rebuild. "There have been huge issues with getting us to the point we are at today. While we have this big hurdle to overcome, it is the last and final hurdle, in my mind, we need to resolve." 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1872 4 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 division3 NOT a punishment CG told 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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