TheWeeBlueDevil 0 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Surely, they'll compromise on allowing us to register free agents? Or would that be too much like common sense for Scottish football..... Scottish football and common sense ...... Not a chance 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,444 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 CG is the only one that can either accept or decline this,we as fans don't really have a say 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I think there may be a compromise reached.....possibly transfer restrictions. maybe age (under 25 for example), wage cap, contract status etc 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dutchy Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 He's said in a statement, "They want to put some transfer embargo on us, but we can't have that as we don't have any players" Full article http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18862115 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovanAllan 0 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 He will take a ban for the next transfer window after this one. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,444 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Rangers win court challenge over SFA transfer ban The front of Rangers' Ibrox Stadium Rangers were placed into administration in February Continue reading the main story Rangers in crisis Police to probe Rangers takeover Green bullish on Rangers future Green completes Rangers purchase Hart denies Green consortium link A judge has ruled that the Scottish Football Association (SFA) acted beyond its powers in imposing a year-long transfer ban on Rangers FC. The ban was given, along with a fine of £100,000, after the club was charged with bringing the game into disrepute. Rangers challenged the ban at the Court of Session in Edinburgh, on the grounds it was not one of the sanctions listed in the SFA's own regulations. Lord Glennie said the ban should be reconsidered by the SFA appeal panel. Rangers administrators Duff and Phelps said the club's position had been vindicated and that they would study the judgement and consider their course of action. The SFA said it was surprised by the verdict and would consult its legal advisers. BBC Scotland has learned that a number of SPL clubs are extremely disappointed with the ruling. One club chairman said there was an "increased animosity" towards Rangers after they took the case to court. One of Europe's leading experts in sports law has also told BBC Scotland there could be wider implications for Scottish football. Judicial review An SFA disciplinary tribunal originally imposed the fine and placed an embargo on Rangers signing senior players for 12 months in April this year. The disrepute charge was handed down mainly over the club's failure to pay more than £13m in taxes last season. That decision was upheld by an SFA appeals tribunal, including the judge Lord Carloway, earlier this month. The club went to the Court of Session to challenge the decision on the additional transfer ban sanction in a judicial review of the tribunal decision. Continue reading the main story “Start Quote We have had imposed on us a sanction that the SFA panel had no right to impose” Richard Keen QC Lord Glennie ruled that the SFA appeals tribunal was wrong in holding that it had the power to impose the additional sanction in the case and that in doing so they were acting outside their powers. The judge set aside the decision and said he would send it back to the SFA appeal tribunal to look at it again in light of his decision. He said the fact that he had found the extra penalty imposed on Rangers to be outside of the powers available did not necessarily mean the club would escape a lighter punishment. Lord Glennie said that was a matter for the association. The judge also rejected an argument made on behalf of the SFA that the correct venue for deciding any dispute was the Swiss-based Court of Arbitration for Sport. Rangers counsel Richard Keen QC, the Dean of the Faculty of Advocates, told the court: "We are the victim of an unlawful sanction and we have had imposed on us a sanction that the SFA panel had no right to impose." Mr Keen had argued that the transfer ban was outside its powers and said that under the appropriate rule a fine, suspension and expulsion were available. Original tribunal Aidan O'Neill QC, for the football authorities, had argued that the tribunal sought to find a sanction which would fit the breach committed. He said it was clearly thought that the fine was "simply not enough given the gravity of the issues here". Continue reading the main story “Start Quote If the Scottish Football Association decides to not take action against Rangers...then Fifa can actually penalise the SFA, and the individual club and the national team of Scotland and impose an international ban on all of them” Dr Gregory Ioannidis Sports lawyer Mr O'Neill said that if their powers of penalty were restricted to sanctions such as suspension or expulsion then suspension would have to be looked at. He added the current sanction allowed Rangers to continue to trade and play. An SFA spokesman said: "We are surprised by today's verdict at the Court of Session, especially since the original sanction against Rangers FC was imposed by an independent panel chaired by a leading QC and upheld by an Appellate Tribunal chaired by a Supreme Court Judge. "We will now consider our position with our legal advisers before making any further comment." Fifa request Paul Clark, joint administrator with Duff and Phelps, said: "We welcome the decision by Judge Lord Glennie today that vindicates the club's position that the original SFA judicial panel tribunal and the appellate tribunal acted beyond their powers in imposing a transfer embargo on the club. He added: "Both we, and the SFA, will have to study the full ramifications of the judgment when it is published and either side has 21 days in which to decide the next course of action or whether they wish to appeal." The decision now places Rangers on a possible collision course with football's governing bodies. Prior to the court's decision, the world governing body Fifa said: "Fifa will ask the member association (SFA) to take action so that the club withdraws its request from the ordinary courts. "Fifa will closely monitor the situation so that the issue is resolved as fast as possible." In an interview with Newsnight Scotland, Dr Gregory Ioannidis, who has represented a number of clubs at the Court of Arbitration for Sport, warned the consequences of the judge's ruling could be damaging for Scottish football. He said: "If the Scottish Football Association decides to not take action against Rangers, in relation to Rangers submitting the application to the Court of Session, then Fifa can actually penalise the SFA, and the individual club, and the national team of Scotland, and impose an international ban on all of them." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18248766 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,282 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) No matter what, should this be accepted the RFFF has to sue them for coercion. We are the victims of fraud, not the culprits. Now we will also become victims of coercion and shall forfeit the right to appeal as well? I say SUE THEM! NB ... John DC Gow @JohnDCGow Work this out: Rangers have to be in Div3 because they are not the same Rangers, but must be punished because they are the same Rangers?!? Edited July 16, 2012 by der Berliner 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,444 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 No matter what, should this be accepted the RFFF has to sue them for coercion. We are the victims of fraud, not the cuprits. Now we will also become victims of coercion and shall forfeit the right to appeal as well? I say SUE THEM! This is a case for the RFFF if ever there was one and if the RFFF does challenge it then they can't harm the club as it's the fans that are challenging the embargo,no?. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCF2008 0 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 John DC Gow @JohnDCGow Work this out: Rangers have to be in Div3 because they are not the same Rangers, but must be punished because they are the same Rangers?!? I think the problem here is that it hasn't been made clear enough to the voting clubs and their supporters not to mention our own players and coaching staff that we are not a new club and shouldn't be treated as such. Otherwise we wouldn't be having the problems with the SFA as we would have applied as a new club instead of applying for transfer of membership. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,444 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 GERS TO ACCEPT SANCTIONS CHARLES GREEN is set for crunch talks with the SFA today which will determine if Rangers are allowed to kick a ball this season. The newco have been voted into the Third Division but require an SFA licence to play. It is understood Hampden chiefs will only transfer membership if the new owners accept sanctions placed on the old company in May. Those include a 12-month transfer embargo, a £160,000 fine and payment of football debts. Ibrox chief executive Green yesterday admitted that the club will have little choice but to accept the punishments. He said: “The real key for Rangers fans are the issues outstanding with the SFA. “It is now for newco to take on board the sins of oldco to clear a way forward. “The difficulty we have is that we’ve been working for many weeks on these issues and there is a point where unless I, as CEO, accept sanctions then we won’t be granted permission to join the SFA. ì The difficulty we have is that we’ve been working for many weeks on these issues and there is a point where unless I, as CEO, accept sanctions then we won’t be granted permission to join the SFA î Ibrox chief executive Charles Green “But it’s a balance between what’s fair and what’s required. “We are now accepted as a member of the football league but we are unable to even play a friendly and the first cup game [a Ramsdens Cup tie away to Brechin City on July 28] is in less than two weeks. “At one meeting today it was explained that being demoted to the Third Division is not a punishment. I struggle to see how leaving the SPL and ending up in the Third Division is anything but a punishment. “But there are some issues we have to deal with and the board are meeting with the SFA tomorrow to try to get them resolved.” With Rangers set to start life in the Third Division, Green revealed there will be job cuts at Ibrox. He said: “I addressed the staff today because there will be job losses and the implications are huge. “We need to draw this matter to an end now. We need the SFA to agree membership for us so we can all rebuild and get on with our lives.” The SPL inquiry into possible dual contracts at Rangers will be concluded on August 10. “We have another board meeting in a few weeks and that issue will be tabled at that meeting on August 10,” said chief executive Neil Doncaster. When asked if Rangers would need to wait until then to get their SFA membership, Doncaster replied: “That’s an issue for the SFA.” http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/333366/Gers-to-accept-sanctions 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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