BlueSolace 0 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Maybe because it took place outside of Scotland they can't get involved? My understanding of the law it now states that anyone committing a sectarian offence anywhere onplanet earth, the Scottish criminal justice system feels itself entitled to go after them .... Personally speaking 800m people are short of food every day, peopkes heads are being get chopped off left, right and centre and good old Scotland is obsessed over a few silly ditties.....bloody joke. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) My understanding of the law it now states that anyone committing a sectarian offence anywhere onplanet earth, the Scottish criminal justice system feels itself entitled to go after them .... Personally speaking 800m people are short of food every day, peopkes heads are being get chopped off left, right and centre and good old Scotland is obsessed over a few silly ditties.....bloody joke. First of all "sectarian" doesn't come into it (for the simple reason that the SG couldn't define it); secondly as I have explained it has to be in relation to a regulated football match as defined; and thirdly it has to be expressing hatred of, or stirring up hatred against, a group of persons based on religion or: (a) colour, (b) race, © nationality (including citizenship), (d ) ethnic or national origins, (e) sexual orientation, (f) transgender identity, (g) disability. Lastly I agree with you that there are many more important things going on in the world but Police Scotland and the PF do not have the ability to influence them. Edited March 24, 2015 by BrahimHemdani 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,416 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) One thing is for sure, with Rangers refusing to defend the fans it has resulted in this mess. Edited March 24, 2015 by ian1964 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,416 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Celtic: John Guidetti charged by SFA for 'offensive' song Celtic will fight a Scottish FA charge against striker John Guidetti, who is accused of singing an "offensive" song relating to Rangers. The 22-year-old has been issued with a notice of complaint following an interview on Dutch TV show FC Rijnmond. During the broadcast he repeated a chant sung about him by supporters. The SFA's compliance officer asserts that the on-loan Manchester City player broke disciplinary rule 73 by making a "comment of an offensive nature". Guidetti, a Swedish international, has until 15:00 GMT on 30 March to respond to the complaint, with a principal hearing date set for 9 April. "We are very surprised and disappointed that this has even found its way to an SFA judicial panel," said a Celtic spokesman. "John Guidetti will be defending this charge." Speaking to BBC Radio Scotland, former SFA compliance officer Vincent Lunny said: "It would appear that their focus is on the comment attacking Rangers or making fun of Rangers for having gone into liquidation back in 2012. "It is, I think, significant that there's no mention of it being sectarian or otherwise based on religion. "[Celtic forward] Leigh Griffiths this time last year was sent a charge for singing 'Hearts are going bust'. "For me, the problem with this case and with the Griffiths case is you've got professionals who are making fun of other clubs in difficulty. People are losing their jobs within football and it's simply not appropriate for players to behave in public in that manner. "There are different standards between the fans and the players. The players are directly under the jurisdiction of the SFA, the fans are not. "Any rule against fan behaviour is against the club. It would have to be fairly serious for a club to be prosecuted for fans singing something and probably would have to be a criminal-type scenario or grossly offensive for that to be done. "That is not necessarily the case here with players. You expect fans to make fun of other clubs and taking delight in another club's demise is not surprising for fans to do but for players to do it is perhaps something completely different." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32023420 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,416 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 CELTIC STICK THE BOOT INTO 'WEB SITE BIGOTS' Bhoys Fans Thrown off Net for Calling Rangers the 'Huns' Sunday Mirror (London, England) Sunday Mirror (London, England) September 9, 2001 | Copyright Byline: CRAIG McGILL CELTIC have banned a popular term for their Ibrox rivals Rangers, warning fans they can no longer call them 'Huns'. And while the move has been praised by many organisations, Celtic fans themselves say it is an example of political correctness gone too far. The first fans knew of the ban was when some were thrown off the club's Internet site for using it. The club has since revealed that any member of staff saying 'Hun' can face disciplinary action or sacked and fans may be asked to leave the ground if they use the word. 'Hun' has been used for years as a general insult for Rangers fans, but some groups have voiced concerns that it could be taken the wrong way, leading to Celtic's actions. … http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-78017613.html#.VRBelFhPDty.twitter 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,416 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Chris Jack @Chris_Jack89 Incredible stuff from Vincent Lunny. Focus of the SFA complaint surely cannot be about RFC. Unacceptable for a player to use the term 'Hun' 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,416 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Belfast has ostensibly been at peace for two decades, but the city remains acutely divided. The borders between Catholic and Protestant neighborhoods are inscribed in the concertina wire and steel of the so-called “peace walls” that progress like fissures across the city. These towering structures maintain some degree of calm by physically separating the city’s populations, as if they were animals in a zoo. The walls are tagged with runelike slurs—K.A.T., for “Kill All ****s,” a derogatory term for Catholics, on one side; K.A.H., for “Kill All Huns,” a reference to Protestants, on the other—and dwarf the squat brick houses and the unlovely council estates on either side, throwing them into shadow. Where the Bodies Are Buried Gerry Adams has long denied being a member of the I.R.A. But his former compatriots claim that he authorized murder. By Patrick Radden Keefe http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/03/16/where-the-bodies-are-buried 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,416 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Almost 4 years ago celtic's Paul McBride QC said the following, during an interview with one of their own fan's sites. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=paul+mcbride+hun "Using the expression hun is offensive." "I don't think we'll be seeing at Parkhead next season signs saying 'no huns in Europe' or 'huns get out of here'. Because we have to accept if we're going to prevent one side behaving in a certain way, we have to make sure our own side, in the celtic family, don't behave in an unacceptable way." "We can't have people being called huns, we can't have people being called Orange B's" So 4 years on and nothing has changed. McBride was lauded as being the top legal mind in the country at the time, so why have his words been completely ignored by those who employed him and those who were so supportive of him in his work to criminalise the term "******"? Every weekend the word "hun" is sung en mass by celtic fans and by various others, Hibs at the weekend for exmple. We have seen numerous banners with the word "hun" in it since McBride proclaimed it to be offensive and liable to legal action. People are still called "huns" and "Orange B's". Celtic, Scottish football and sections of Scottish media are currently trying to find a get out for one of their employees using the term in a TV interview. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 6,140 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Let the mug sing what he wants , our day will come . 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charltonman 19 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Is it just me that finds this stuff pathetic? It's like teenage lassies playing their drama queen stuff. Is anybody on either side genuinely offended by any of it? Honestly and truly? You'd have to care what that muppet thought or said to be offended . 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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