OFFICIAL Rangers appoint Russell Martin as head coach

[L72 487]

5 minutes ago, CammyF said:

So, mentioning those managers, maybe it's down to managers / coaches / boards that we have been unsuccessful since our return to top flight and not Tav?

 

 

It's a mix, and guess what, he's part of it.

 

Loser mentality dripping right out of him.

 

[Scott7 6,958]

34 minutes ago, L72 said:

maybe it's down to managers / coaches / boards

Correct. Collective responsibility. Doesn’t rule out assessments of individuals though.

[Bluedell 6,310]

Tav as a captain is subjective. We don't see a lot of what he does. He captained us to 55 and a lot of memorable euro runs, including a final. It's difficult to assess given the lack of quality in the team at certain times. 

 

As a player, overall, he's been really good. He's scored a lot of important goals and was integral to 55 and reaching Seville. 

 

Our style of play required an attacking full back and arguably we would have performed a lot worse as a team with someone who didn't have his attacking qualities and better defensive ability. There were quite a few seasons where he was the only one in the team driving us forward on the 80th minute, for example. 

 

There have been defensive lapses at times but he's not a £50 million player, and it's to be expected that he's not going to be perfect. 

 

He's slowed up now and doesn't offer what he did 3 years ago and I'd hope we get another full back in. 

 

I can understand people criticising his performances at times or wanting another player in when he's poor, but I do find the Tav hate a bit tiresome.

[CammyF 9,674]

52 minutes ago, L72 said:

It's a mix, and guess what, he's part of it.

 

Loser mentality dripping right out of him.

 

He says US not ME - and says THEY get scared. Jeez....its his assessment 9f the SQUAD not him as an individual. Fuck me..... 

 

Off course he's a (tiny) part of it. He is one player out of the many who've played for us over the last decade. Not to mention managers / boards who shoulder a far greater responsibility that Tav.

[ranger_syntax 4,936]

All over the place.

[L72 487]

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

He says US not ME - and says THEY get scared. Jeez....its his assessment 9f the SQUAD not him as an individual. Fuck me..... 

 

Off course he's a (tiny) part of it. He is one player out of the many who've played for us over the last decade. Not to mention managers / boards who shoulder a far greater responsibility that Tav.

Some amount of reaching to try and give excuses for him mate. 

 

He assessed himself as part of that squad 😂🫠

[L72 487]

1 hour ago, Bluedell said:

Tav as a captain is subjective. We don't see a lot of what he does. He captained us to 55 and a lot of memorable euro runs, including a final. It's difficult to assess given the lack of quality in the team at certain times. 

 

As a player, overall, he's been really good. He's scored a lot of important goals and was integral to 55 and reaching Seville. 

 

Our style of play required an attacking full back and arguably we would have performed a lot worse as a team with someone who didn't have his attacking qualities and better defensive ability. There were quite a few seasons where he was the only one in the team driving us forward on the 80th minute, for example. 

 

There have been defensive lapses at times but he's not a £50 million player, and it's to be expected that he's not going to be perfect. 

 

He's slowed up now and doesn't offer what he did 3 years ago and I'd hope we get another full back in. 

 

I can understand people criticising his performances at times or wanting another player in when he's poor, but I do find the Tav hate a bit tiresome.

I find Tav tiresome. And it'd be refreshing to see him go.

[JohnMc 3,290]

I'm curious what people think the captaincy entails. Do people think he should be changing formations on the pitch during games? Over-ruling the management team on tactics and selections perhaps? Maybe telling the board to sell certain players and who to buy? 

The expectation some seem to have regarding what the captain does is very strange. The captain is the bridge between the dressing room and the manager, he's who helps new players settle into the squad, who lets's the manager know if someone has an issue, perhaps unconnected to football, who makes sure the various media duties the squad need to do are covered. He's the guy who swaps pennants and calls the coin toss, he'll give an encouraging word or a harsh one to a teammate when appropriate. 

This suggestion that he's responsible for our ills is ludicrous. At the age of 30 Wes Morgan captained Leicester City to the league title, it was the first honour he'd won in football. Some captains never win anything in their entire career, that doesn't make them bad captains. It's a team game, teams win and lose, not individuals. 

[Scott7 6,958]

3 minutes ago, JohnMc said:

I'm curious what people think the captaincy entails.

There’s no text book for it. Keep the players’ minds on the job. Encourage some, cajole others. Most of us remember Richard Gough. You’ll remember Greig and Shearer. John Cumming was an outstanding captain of Hearts and I have to admit McNeill and Miller were pretty good at their clubs. Sergeant Major, if you like. A player has either got it or he hasn’t.

 

Caldow doesn’t fit that description. I have no idea how he did it. 

[L72 487]

1 hour ago, JohnMc said:

I'm curious what people think the captaincy entails. Do people think he should be changing formations on the pitch during games? Over-ruling the management team on tactics and selections perhaps? Maybe telling the board to sell certain players and who to buy? 

The expectation some seem to have regarding what the captain does is very strange. The captain is the bridge between the dressing room and the manager, he's who helps new players settle into the squad, who lets's the manager know if someone has an issue, perhaps unconnected to football, who makes sure the various media duties the squad need to do are covered. He's the guy who swaps pennants and calls the coin toss, he'll give an encouraging word or a harsh one to a teammate when appropriate. 

This suggestion that he's responsible for our ills is ludicrous. At the age of 30 Wes Morgan captained Leicester City to the league title, it was the first honour he'd won in football. Some captains never win anything in their entire career, that doesn't make them bad captains. It's a team game, teams win and lose, not individuals. 

Strong mindset is a key part of leadership.

 

The ability to exude confidence and lift everyone around you, you're not getting that from the guy that admits he can't handle pressure well.

 

That mentality rubs off, if your captain/leader/boss is shitting themselves when the pressure is on, why would you be confident?

 

This notion that a captain can't do much is a cop out and excuse for a poor captain.