SteveC

Oh I know, I just meant it is pertinent to this particular visit. I despair of them all. I'm just glad I don't live in Scotland as I believe in voting but I'd be damned hard pushed to find someone for whom I could vote. It's been bloody hard enough in England but in Scotland - yikes!

It may not be party political but it is important that it is the Party that brought in the "Offensive Behaviour Act" that is involved.

Well done Morton, lets hope you have a similar victory in your next game in the cup.

Well this will calm the thread down. It was posted half an hour ago on FF by Grandmaster Suck: The former directors of Rangers First who have been engaging in a cowardly campaign against Rangers FC secretary are strangely quiet when challenged about this, the second loan offered to and rejected by Rangers FC. The second loan was for money Rangers First did not have. It was cooked up by a couple of the directors and kept secret from James Blair until it was presented to Rangers. The source of the £3m remains secret. The club and James Blair were never told. Penalty clauses were included in the loan proposal, interest was payable and it was to be secured on assets. Unsurprisingly, the club dismissed it out of hand. The group of directors under the spell of Ronnie Johnston and Graham Campbell (who have registered the company called Rangers Independent Fans Consortium) concocted this lunatic proposal. They have never shared the existence of it with their members.

Keep a body count as you go, Craig. You'll find that God kills 2,038,344 (mostly just for the Heaven of it) while Satan kills fewer than are in a football team.

Brilliant, or rather not for your dad and I wish it had got the moaning git. Wherever my dad and I went we always had one of those guys near us too. They all had their pet whipping boys

Back in the day I used to go to nearly every reserve game at Ibrox. Late 60s - early 70s

I would like us to have a museum but I wonder how many people it would attract after the novelty wore off. By that I mean after the likes of us had all gone to it once or twice. Scottish football seems unlikely to attract tourists or, I fear, even visiting European teams for much longer. But our history pretty much demands one.....(edit: and i just read Craig's line rre Arsenal's above) If there had been a vote on it I think I'd have voted to improve the facilities (perhaps provide some would be a better phrase) for the disabled. I think my mum would also have voted that way and as I persuaded her to put money into it I should also take that into account. I could always ask her I guess. Or no, it's nearly 8 and if I call now I'll still be on the phone at midnight

Enough to reel in an obsessed twat:

A disgustingly disrespectful tone in an aggressive direct question at 08:12. Bassa who asked that deserves a slap....eff me, the bassa keeps on . Cheeky sod. Over 13 minutes of relentless pig headed hounding and ignorance either feigned or ingrained. A minute on the QotS game then back to Martyn's injury

I agreed with onevision before even watching it. The last few months are just the same thing endlessly rerun. You glaze over when it starts, It's a real shame as I loved his interviews when he arrived but no speaker can keep the same answers to the same questions interesting week after week after week.

FORMER chairman Michael Johnston tells Ibrox club they 'don't know what they're talking about' over article regarding injury to striker Martyn Waghorn as pitches row rumbles on. Jeff Holmes/PA WireKilmarnock have defended their plastic pitch KILMARNOCK tonight furiously hit back at Rangers after the Ibrox club blamed Rugby Park's plastic pitch for striker Martyn Waghorn's injury. The Ibrox club released a statement earlier today announcing that Waghorn would not require surgery but stated that the "unforgiving Rugby Park surface resulted in bruising and lacerations which were immediately visible." This wording left the Ayrshire club furious and Killie club secretary and former Chairman Michael Johnston has since contacted Rangers to request the phrase "unforgiving" is removed from the statement. Talking in an interview on the STV website, Johnston said: "It’s disappointing the official Rangers website would carry such an ill-informed comment. SNS GroupKilmarnock club secretary Michael JohnstonKilmarnock club secretary Michael Johnston "The 3G pitch at Rugby Park is not only FIFA 2 star compliant, but also meets the higher standards set by international rugby. We have already hosted the world’s first full rugby international played on a synthetic pitch (Scotland v Tonga, November 2014). "In January, we hosted Europe’s top club side in Racing 92 in their match with Glasgow Warriors and tomorrow evening we are hosting the Guinness PRO12 match between Warriors and Munster. "Clearly there is far more physical contact with the 3G pitch during a rugby match and no player has sustained any injury related to the surface. The IRB require additional shock absorbency and impact protection beyond the requirements for football so the pitch at Rugby Park represents the most forgiving playing surface in Scottish professional football. SNS GroupMartyn Waghorn holds his knee after the injury "My immediate reaction was the author of the article didn't know what they were talking about and this is the sort of ill-informed remark that people tend to make about synthetic pitches without checking the facts. "We have endeavoured to contact the chief executive of Rangers and are waiting to have the critical remark removed and we’re currently awaiting a response." http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kilmarnock-hit-back-rangers-over-7397105?

If there's anyway of doing it, the quote re "this is fascist talk" should be bounced back to the originator with the list of the ways they constantly dehumanise us. There's loads of examples "animals" "monkeys" "zombies" etc. He is right it is fascist talk but it is them who use it.

Someone wrote that anyone could vote if they followed the link, members or not. I do not know if this is true, just that I read someone saying it was.

I thought Andy Mclintock had withdrawn. Seems odd to show him, even if the votes were in before he did, if that is the case.

Yes, that's correct. The Penny Arcade they claimed was a celebration of the shooting of a Republican (terrorist, I presume - I can't recall the details) in a gaming shop in Belfast. They make up reasons for everything. They then repeat it ad infinitum - and get their friends in the media to help - to get it accepted as 'fact'. Unfortunately, demented though they are, this is highly effective in a society, such as ours, which disdains education and historical fact and reveres ignorance and acts on ill-judged instincts.

Also, surely we are the people is less offensive than soldiers are we. There is no fog of confusion around the latter phrase's origins either.

We, we are the ones subject to endless dehumanising references. We are the victims of this far more than perpetrators

Perhaps he's read one or more of the threads on the subject, as they are enough to make one lose the will to live far less just withdraw.

Perhaps someone is paying the rent for him

Sorry, I expected moderators to be on the case 24/7, even at weekends .............or I didn't think it through. One of those two

That's probably good advice but I am so depressed I am nearly going on to that thread where everybody is really nice to each other - but I can't bring myself to as that's so far in the other direction that it's just wrong, fundamentally wrong.

Thats the problem , its meant to be a Rangers forum , first and foremost , I was slaughtered on there for a post years ago about CW , yet I have /had emails and phone calls and texts from, then .RST board members telling me I was right and apologizing for what happened . But guess what , not one had the guts to pull him up and publicly apologize , or rather apologize via FF So much for being able to stay away from these threads. I come back and it has, astonishingly, got even worse. I skipped from a page that included "hes a RAT end off ". Is this really what this site is about? I had a post deleted for slagging off RM and was told we were not allowed to comment negatively on other forums. Does this mean that it's OK to attack other forum's website owners using terms like "RAT" and "lying bastard" but not to say, "xx forum is rubbish"? Seems damn odd rules to me. Then again, I was also ticked off for "name calling" - not entirely sure how "RAT" and "lying bastard" are OK and my more polite epithet was not. Are all the pages in-between these quotes dominated by rbr's disturbing fixation with Mark Dingwall? I've been banned from FF myself. Twice in fact. I have no reason to presume Mark himself did it, but even if he did, I'd still be querying why I wake up and find Gersnet is awash with a personal vendetta against him. It's quite astonishing how some people turn every thread on fan groups into a thread about their Dingwall obsessions and that they are allowed free rein to do so. No wonder we can never progress as it is never about the Rangers, instead it's always about fans hating other fans. This thread is a haters' bonanza. The entrance fee to this spectacle may be free but it still seems too high a price to pay. It's a totally depressing start to the weekend.

Sixteen years Sixteen banners united over the field Where the good shepherd grieves Desperate men, desperate women divided..... Oh, wait that jumps us to the other thread...

"“Maybe if it was away from Ibrox it might have been different" cnut