ian1964

Why The Orange Stadium? Seriously though, I'm sure most fans would accept that,depending on the actual name of course

I was thinking more of PETROL

"Rangers got David for £100,000 only because Rangers were the only club he'd got to....Jock Stein tried to take David to Parkhead and David wouldn't even talk about it" Jack Steedman

I don't believe that this would be denied due to a money issue mate as their seats could/would be sold to Rangers fans,it won't happen though as I believe it is an obligation to allocate them their quota of tickets. I'd just love to ban them for every game

Rangers FC should be looking at someone like you to do the official reporting on the youths,you do a great job of keeping us informed of the youth set up and I know it's well appreciated by a lot of Rangers fans.

We need to chanel the passion shown by Rangers fans,I don't know if Paul Murray is the man to lead that or not,but we need someone to lead the fans in that direction and we need it now.It can be done as shown by the fans.

The BHEASTS should be banned from Ibrox for the next game

HERE is a pretty confident prediction. Somebody, indeed maybe more than one person, will go to jail when the full extent of the apparent fraud perpetrated on Rangers is proved. Craig Whyte is of course in the frame. Though he is more likely to be holed up somewhere with Lord Lucan as a near neighbour. At best! Unless he is made an offer he canâ??t refuse. That might be no better than the choice of the head of a white or black horse as a bed companion, perhaps. Others may say such things, but I could not possibly comment. What I am happy to comment on is the likelihood of someone doing some serious porridge and my bet as the man being lined up to take the fall is the lawyer Whyte brought in as Rangers company secretary, Gary Withey. Unless he has already flown the coop and settled down next door to Whyte and Lord Lucan. Withey is causing the previously prestigious London based international law firm, Collyer Bristow, acute embarrassment. Withey, who is a lawyer, is actually a partner in Collyer Bristow whose plush offices are in the shadow of St Paulâ??s in the square mile. So far Withey has failed to respond to pleas from Rangers administrators, Duff and Phelps for help in finding the staggering sum of £4.5m which they have identified as having gone missing. My information is that the men at the top of Collyer Bristow are making moves to give Withey the boot. If he is ever found then he will no doubt face a long, tough and searching session in a police interrogation room, possibly as a prelude to an appearance in the dock at the High Court, followed, perchance, by a stiff stretch in the Bar-L. For the moment, and for as long as the hunt for Withey goes on, he remains innocent. Until proven to be guilty. Another of the dodgy dealers ace conman Craig Whyte filled the Ibrox boardroom with was Phil Betts. And I can now reveal the full extent to which he ripped off Rangersâ?¦with a little help from conman Craig Whyte. Betts, who is 49, trousered just a few quid short of £200,000 for the period from when he joined the Rangers board in May until he left last month. For doing just what? Betts, by his own admission, is not a tax expert. So what skill did he take to Whyteâ??s boardroom table? Apart from the fact that he started a firm called Primary Asset Finance in 2005 and it was sponsored by another finance company called, Close Brothers. One of the board members of Close Brothers is Ray Greenshields who is also chairman of Octopus VCT3, which owns Ticketus. And Ticketus, as we all now know, handed over the £24.4m to Whyte which allowed him to buy Rangers. Itâ??s amazing the way all the pieces of this dodgy and ugly jigsaw fit together. Betts has said that he will hand back that £200,000 if it can be proved it was paid out of the Rangers FC plc account. But if it came from the Rangers FC Group Ltd account, then he will keep his greedy paws on it. So which account do you thing conman Whyte paid Betts from? Answers on the back of a stamp please. Follow the money, as they say in the movies. Though this time, when you run up against Gary Withey, it is hard to follow the money. Maybe the phrase should be, try to catch up with the disappeared dough. All £4.5m of it. Since Whyte and his hustlers moved into Ibrox , Rangers money has disappeared faster than a pay poke in Blackpool on Fair Friday. Just about the only folk we know for sure have been paid and the only place we know for certain where some of the money is, is in the vaults of Lloyds Bank. That is the £18m which Whyte was forced to pay Lloyds, cash he raised against the season tickets of a company he did not own. Funny, that! We will soon be returning to the role Lloyds Bank has played in the purchase of Rangers by Whyte, which led to the current crisis. And one name which will be placed under the spotlight is former Ibrox director, Donald Muir. For the moment though it is enough to know that Phil Betts has waltzed away from Rangers with £200,000 in his hip pocket, for doing we know not what. While Gary Withey appears about as easy to find as Shergar. Not to mention the whereabouts of conman Craig Whyte. His "people" told one well known journalist they haven't been able to get hold of him since Tuesday. Honestly! Now there's a word not associated with conman Whyte and his gang of hustlers. â?¦â?¦. ANDâ?¦â?¦.. WHATâ??S the name of the man at STV ultimately responsible for inviting know nothings Odious Creep and wee Billy Leckie onto Scotland Tonight to discuss the Rangers story? BOB WOODWARD! Honestly, it is. This one, unlike the Bob Woodward who with Carl Bernstein cracked the Watergate story and brought down Richard Nixon, is no Pulitzer Prize winner. I have said â?? and will say it again and again â?? Creep does not work for a newspaper and is not involved in this story. He is not talking to Paul Murray or any of his consortium colleagues. He is not talking to David Murray. And he is not talking to Craig Whyte. Though Creep and conman Whyte have the same lack of precision. Wee Billy Leckie is another who is out in the cold on this monumental story. So why are so many of those who work for Bob Woodward palming STV viewers off with uniformed pap? Why are they making mugs out of the viewers? Is there a valid reason? Is money involved? Or some sort of feeble friendship? Nepotism? I think we should be told. STV chief executive, Bob Woodward, the big boss, is the man who should be looking for the answers. And if he needs any help probing STVGATE, I know a man who can give him Dustin Hoffman's number. FINALLY.... YOU read it hear first. David Murray quizzed by Rangers administrators! LeggoLand was on the ball on Friday when, by mid afternoon, I revealed that the administrators were to grill David Murray. By Saturday morning the news was splashed all over the front page of the Daily Record. The Record has led the way on this story, with the Daily Mail not far behind and the Daily Telegraph also on the ball. As for the Sun and wee Billy Leckie? There was though, I am told, a nod in the direction of the story when the Sun held their own wee awards ceremony at the luvvies West End watering hole, Oran Mor last Saturday. Let's just hope the new Sun on Sunday performs better on this, the most important football story in Scotland for the last half century. And let's also hope that they don't let loose wee Billy with another of those strange rambling columns. For the good news for me is that the launch of the Sun of Sunday means the weekend's best columnist, Davie Provan, is back. Go get 'em, Davie!

He would have been 56 today. Gone but not forgotten Davie. A true Rangers man.

DAVID MURRAY is believed to have been questioned by the administrators over his time as Rangers owner. The shock move which dragged David Murray back to the centre of the Rangers crisis was thought to have happened today. My information is that adminstrators Duff and Phelps two men on the Rangers case, Paul Clark and David Whitehouse, were due to travel through to Edinburgh to visit David Murray at the headquarters of the Murray Group empire in Charlotte Square. Again, if my info is correct, that meeting was scheduled for early afternoon. There had been no sign of them when Murray left his offices just after four on Friday afternoon, destination unknown. Charlotte Square had seen a posse of television cameras and newspaper photpographers camped outside the Muray Group HQ. Speculation mounted that the administrators were tipped off about the media circus and the meeting may have been moved to a secret hideaway. It is believed the adminstrators, keen to get a full picture of how Rangers ended up in this mess, decided they had to grill David Murray on events during his time as the Ibrox club's owner. Though it is inconceivable that any questions from the administrators to David Murray would leave out events surrounding the purchase from him of Rangers by Craig Whyte from him. Never mind there being no place to hide for conman Whyte, it now looks as though there wonâ??t be a bolt hole big enough for David Murray and his massive ego if he doesnâ??t DO something to help Rangers. And DO it soon! Blustering braggart words wonâ??t hold water anymore. David Murray has to step up and admit he was conned by Whyte. Duped, just like so many, me included. Though not of course Alastair â??Watch Whyte Like A Hawkâ? Johnston and Paul Murray. Along with John McClelland and Greatest Ever Ranger, John Greig, they had Whyteâ??s number. They warned David Murray, but David was too big heided to listen. No surprise there, then. But there is no shame in being conned. Everybody, no matter how smart, has at some time fallen for the three-card-trick. Though the big time con artists usually look for a â??markâ? with an ego which is bigger than his brain However, and this is especially the case with this victim, who has such a towering ego that it actually dwarfs the reality of who and what David Murray really is, then facing up to being the victim, the â??mark,â? and admitting it, is pretty hard. In some ways David Murray is like the bullying blustering character, Doyle Lonnegan, played with such panache by Robert Shaw in that wonderful movie, The Sting. David Murray, though, faces another problem. For if he doesnâ??t confess to being Whyteâ??s â??markâ? then many may even consider an alternative, which is that he sold out Rangers knowing full well that Whyte was a shyster. A sort of upmarket version of the sharks who sell counterfeit dvds from stalls in the Barras. I would refuse to believe anyone who said such a thing. I would refuse to believe Murray capable of such an act. And that's a fact! But right now David Murray is between a rock and a hard place. And they are just about to start squeezing and pressing in on him. Does David Murray, for instance, want his pal, First Minister Alex Salmond, to look out of the window of his swanky Bute House official residence and gaze across the very home of Scotlandâ??s Establishment, Charlotte Square, and see a motley crew of furious Rangers supporters laying siege to Murrayâ??s Murray Group Headquarters? Plans for just such a demo are already in the pipeline. Rangers fans I have spoken to know they canâ??t pin conman Whyte down, but they know where to find David Murray. Or at least his seriously prestigious headquarters in Edinburgh. The duce burgers of Auld Reekie â?? lawyers, bankers, politicians, businessmen, the movers and shakers â?? wonâ??t have seen anything like it. A horde of angry Glaswegians descending on the very heart of their Establishment Citadel. David Murray would do well to remember that. Which is why he must speak out. And do it publicly, facing the cameras and the news media and not just a handful of cherry picked lackeys, the chief of whom ainâ??t â??andy at the moment, being oceans away. But admitting to having been conned and then departing the scene wonâ??t cut it for David Murray. All that will be, is a start. For as Rangers coffers get dangerously close to being empty, David Murray must accept his moral obligations. He must seek an urgent meeting with the administrators and offer a contribution from his own vast personal wealth. Around £10M to be used by the administrators to keep Rangers afloat for the next four or five months should just about do it. Even that still stops at just being a start. David Murrayâ??s culpability in all of this mess is there for all to see. Whatever the legal, niceties turn out to be, the morality of the situation is beyond doubt and debate. David Murray must explain why he did not sell to the Paul Murray led bid more than two years ago, when it is believed Lloyds said the bid was too low. Yet it was more than £20m MORE than the QUID Whyte handed over for 85per cent of the Ibrox shares. David must also explain why he again turned down a £20m plus bid from Paul last April. On the 19th and 20th of April I warned about the dangers of the Whyte move. Check it out in the archives on the right of this page. David Murray was furious and I have evidence which strongly suggests that he moved against me with one of his no longer quite so â??andy press lackeys ordered to take action against me. But I am still here, still searching for the truth and believe I am trusted by my close to 1.5MILLION readers. I wonder if any of them would repose such trust in David Murray? David Murray has got a lot to answer for. And â?? given his boasts about vineyards in France and Old Masters on the walls of his Charlotte Square headquarters â?? plenty of money available to start to make amends. And should he require any further incentive, he should ask his Charlotte Square neighbhours what they will think if a thousand or so noisy and rough types from Glasgow descend on the very heart of Edinburghâ??s Establishment. There is no bolt hole for David Murray. The rock and the hard place press in on him. My advice to David Murray is taken from the stamp Winston Churchill used to adorn his urgent wartime orders withâ?¦..ATD! ACTION THIS DAY! ....AND WHAT a curious choice STV made by inviting Bill Leckie on to Scotland Tonight to talk about the Rangers crisis. The Sun have been so far behind on this story that the Record has lapped them...twice! In fact when Leckie was asked if there was more to come on the story, I half expected him to say..... Yes, and you will read it in the Record. Mind you, he seemed to know nothing about the lauch of the Sun on Sunday this weekend and gave the appearance of not approving of the way the whole thing was being done.

I have very limited internet access out here,every time I log in to try and catch up with events all I get is another kick in the nuts,maybe I'll just hibernate until it's all over

Fuck me!,when is all this going to get better?,where is Rangers FC going at the end of all this shit?.

THERE is only one man to lead the campaign to save Rangers. And one other to come out and give that man his public backing and wholehearted support. Paul Murray is the man who can mastermind a takeover to return Rangers to the stewardship of decent, honourable men of substance and dignity. And Walter Smith is the man whose endorsement of Paul Murray can unite Rangers supporters behind the consortium Paul is trying to put together ahead of a meeting in the next few days with the administrators. We will call Paul Murray, Paul, in order that they can be no confusion with David. They are not related and although they share the same name some may say they do not share the same values. Although I have never met Paul, everything those whose judgment I trust â?? businessmen, football folk and senior journalists â?? tell me about him says he is a thoroughly honourable man of uncommon decency and high moral values. In fact, one pal of a similar vintage to me, described Paul as the sort of man we had encountered in our boyhood and youth, as a Kirk elder, family doctor or headmaster. Old school Scottish and all the better for being it. As far removed from the shady chicanery of Craig Whyte as it is possible to be. Paul, though wealthy by normal standards, is not in a position to write a cheque to save Rangers. He needs to form a consortium and include grassrooots supporters to ensure Whyte gets the boot and Rangers return to their roots. His promise that he does not want to see Rangers ever held hostage to the whims of one majority shareholder, be that David or Whyte, is a display of just what sort of man he is and how deep his passion for Rangers goes. Paul is not a man who courts publicity. He is not on an ego trip like David, or in it to make a fast buck like the man David was happy enough to sell Rangers to for a knicker. Which is why Rangers supporters must come together and give Paul their backing. Past differences must be laid aside for the greater good. Supporters schisms healed, or at least papered over until Rangers are rescued. Anyone making the wrong move now could find themselves reviled for years to come if they endanger Paulâ??s plans. I believe Walter Smith, who is still on a family holiday in America, holds the key to the whole thing. The key to uniting Rangers supporters. And I also believe he will be happy to join the moves to save the club he loves and served so well. Smith, above everyone else, knows just what a debt Rangers already owe to Paul. It was during Paulâ??s three years on the board that Rangers saw their debt halved to Lloyds to what should have been a trifling £18M to the bank, while he still managed to provide the manager with the resources to win three in a row. Add four cups and a UEFA Cup Final appearance and you see what a team they made. None of this should be misconstrued as suggesting that Smith will return for a third stint as manager. It wonâ??t happen. Alastair McCoist and Paul will work together in the same was as Paul and Smith did. Smithâ??s role will be to make a public declaration of support for Paul, pointing to the support he got from Paul which helped Rangers gain so much success on and off the field between 2008 and 2011. Such is the honest decency of Paul that it was suggested to me by one of his close confidants that if he wins control, he will look carefully at whether it is possible to re-employ any Rangers employee who faces redundancy during the time the club is in administration. Bill Struth always saidâ?¦.Cometh the hour, cometh the man. The hour has come. Paul Murray, with a little help from Walter Smith, can be the man. http://leggoland2.blogspot.com/

ALLY McCOIST will carry the burden of responsibility for millions of fans around the world in the battle to save the club he loves. McCoist was stunned when news of an unpaid tax bill of £9million emerged this week, plunging the club into administration. But instead of feeling duped by Craig Whyte, McCoist simply felt a sense of shock, disappointment and a determination not to let his club die. His problems deepened last night when the SPL blocked the signing of Daniel Cousin, who had been in the squad to face Kilmarnock at a sell-out Ibrox today. But McCoist will remain focused in his battle to keep the Light Blues alive. He said: â??Iâ??m ready for it. I canâ??t say I know what road we will go down or what we will do. â??But itâ??s important Rangers fans know thereâ??s somebody who will do their damnedest for them. But itâ??s important Rangers fans know thereâ??s somebody who will do their damnedest for them Rangers boss Ally McCoist â??A lot of them are disillusioned and shattered. I saw boys in tears outside Ibrox as generations of the same family think about their team. â??I know the responsibility I have. Effectively, Iâ??m representing them. Iâ??ve always represented them as manager of the club, but Iâ??m fully aware what is expected of me as a football manager to help the fans through this situation. â??Hopefully, this game against Killie will produce a highly-charged atmosphere at Ibrox. â??I can speak for all of the players, coaches and management staff when I say we canâ??t wait for Saturday. Then you will see what the institution that is Rangers Football Club is all about.â? Rangers announced a deal had been done to sign free agent Cousin on Monday subject to international clearance, but they went into administration 24 hours later, triggering restrictions on registering players with the SPL. An SPL statement last night revealed they had been presented with a contract between Cousin and Rangers yesterday afternoon, dated February 17 signed by the player and by Paul Clark, joint administrator. It went on: â??In terms of SPL rule A6.20, the consent of the board of the SPL was required for the registration of the player with the SPL. The board of the SPL declined to give that consent. â??Accordingly, the player is not registered with the SPL and is not eligible to play in SPL matches.â? Rangers have the right to appeal the decision. Whyte will steer clear of Ibrox today â?? a wise move given the level of hostility felt towards him by the support. McCoist has not spoken to him since the club went into administration. But the manager will keep a lid on his own feelings for now to make sure heâ??s not distracted from the tough job ahead. He added: â??Itâ??s not about the man who owns the club, the manager or any individuals within or involved with the club. â??This is about the club collectively as a whole. Iâ??m just caring about the football club which is ours progressing out of this rocky road.â?

I bet you're knackered now,be honest now how many times have you had a go?

As we all know the truth hurts. The BHEASTS probably don't think there is anything wrong with it though as they see it as normal behaviour

Anybody wanting to punch TLB ?, click below http://www.punchaceleb.com/#Neil Lennon - 1.15m

Rangers FC should ask the SFA to investigate all their trophies they have won during the cover up of child abuse,even now they should be closed down for that despicable act. Moral high ground indeed.

NEIL LENNON is set to demand Rangers are STRIPPED of titles won over the last decade if it's proved they won them through financial cheating. The Celtic boss has been left staggered by the sight of his sorry rivals in administration. And he believes there should be more than just a ten-point deduction this season for their shocking cash crisis. He said: "If you break the rules you get punished for it, regardless of whether it's Rangers or anyone else. "We have seen in the past other clubs have been punished in the same way." Rangers were forced into calling in administrators after HMRC demanded £9million in PAYE and VAT dating back to last summer. That's in addition to the possible £75m bill they could be hit with as they await a ruling on a fight with HMRC over offshore Employee Benefit Trust payments made over a decade. Lennon was a Celtic player in both the 2002-03 and 2004-05 campaigns when Gers lifted the title on the final day. The Light Blues have also been champions for the last three years. Lennon is adamant, though, if they've effectively done so through an unfair financial advantage then they should be hammered again â?? with altered record books. Celtic are virtually guaranteed to be champions now, with a 14-point lead and just 12 SPL games left. Lennon, though, is a long way from celebrating â?? and he'll demand proper justice for the ailing Gers. Juventus lost two titles from 2005 and 2006 following a betting scandal. Lennon also looks at cyclists being denied glory for breaking the rules. RAP ... LennyHe said: "If people want to point the finger if â?? and it's a big if â?? we win the title then I will have plenty to say about devaluing titles. Don't worry about that. "I am angry at the way things have been dealt with there. Obviously it has been ongoing for a number of years and it has had an effect on previous run-ins and previous titles. "Until we get to some sort of conclusion and get the answers there is no point pointing fingers. "There was a lot of talk about it for a long, long time. But you never think that a club as big as that would go into administration. Finally, when it does come, it's like 'Wow'. "If it has had a direct effect on me in my playing days, I will come out and say something at that time. "As it is now, it hasn't been proved. It's not my business, not our club's business. "But it WILL be my business if it's affected me as a player or previous managers and has denied us titles and trophies in the past. "A journalist used the expression 'financial doping'. For me, doping is a sporting term for cheating. "In athletics, if you are caught doping you are banned. "Alberto Contador got stripped of his Tour de France win in 2010, so there are precedents." Lennon feels Hoops fans would be furious if Gers cut a deal with HMRC to pay a fraction of their debts. He said: "There would be more disquiet among the supporters. "I think their view on it is there wasn't much help coming our way in 1994, so why should other clubs be treated differently?" Lennon has already insisted Celts can survive without Rangers. But he confessed: "The thing we'd all miss are the games, the derbies. I think world football would miss that because it is one of THE games. "For me, it is the ultimate derby and has been for quite a while. "But we're talking hypothetically here because the administrator says there is a good chance liquidation will be unlikely." Read more: http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/4137970/If-Gers-are-guilty-strip-them-of-titles.html#ixzz1mghI7s5C

Either of these scenarios is exactly what Liewell and his puppet Regan will be trying to implement,Liewell won't settle for anything less than cripling Rangers as a club.

If I told you I'd have to kill you

One thing is certain here,Liewell has a very powerful position within the SFA and his influence over his puppet Regan is undoubted,so we can safely say that if there is anything Liewell can do, using his position, to harm Rangers FC he will do it.

Can he play as a trialist, like Neil McCann did for Dundee?.

Never seen the other thread on this subject,admin can delete/merge